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June 03, 2024, 12:31:48 PM
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We watched Atalanta and Fiorentina in the last game of the league, all the goals came in the first half. I expected Atalanta to win, but they couldn't get the better of their opponents at home, even though they had more possession. Fiorentina started the match fast. Fiorentina took a 1-0 lead with Belotti's goal in the first minutes, but conceded 6 minutes later. Fiorentina managed to take the lead again 6 minutes after the goal and closed the first half of the match 3-2 ahead. In the second half, we didn't see many positions.

 
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June 03, 2024, 12:34:34 PM
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It doesn't really matter that they finished this season beneath Juventus because at the end of the day, thanks to them winning the europa, they qualified automatically for champions league action next season so they really didn't need that win. For me, yesterday's game was like a friendly, entertaining us with fine football from both teams, not leaving out the goal fest. Atalanta did what was asked of them; maintain a good performance in the europa, carry the title and try to be above average in your domestic league. if we're being honest, these guys did just that.
 Another thing worth noting is that they have a crop of young players who can deliver when the need arises, somehow similar to the squad at Real madrid.
Overall, Atalanta has shown maximum effort to finish in 3rd place in the Serie A standings, but in their last match against Fiorentina they were unlucky. Atalanta performance has improved compared to last season, where their success in winning the Europa League marked an impressive season, and no one thought they would be able to overthrow Leverkusen.

Even though they failed to overtake Juventus position, Gasperini fleet performance this season deserves appreciation, and the manager decision to stay is happy news for Atalanta fans. The defeat against Fiorentina was indeed annoying, where before the match Atalanta was very much the favourite. Fiorentina lost to Olympiakos in the Confederation League final, but they were able to beat the Europa League champions, I think that was also a big surprise.

Next, Atalanta will face Madrid in the UEFA Super Cup, a match between the European League champions and the Champions League champions. I think the result of this match is fairly easy to predict, where Madrid is clearly the favorite. However, the match is still quite far away, if there are no changes to the schedule, the match will be held in August.

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June 03, 2024, 12:37:56 PM
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Today is the big day for Napoli. Antonio Conte has landed in Capodichinio and is ready to sign. However, I would never have expected it from him to sign with Napoli. It is truly incredible that Delaurentis spends so much on a coach who certainly he will ask for a lot of new players and honestly the arrival of Lukaku intrigues me a lot, in three years he will get 18 million which is a lot of money, as we said in recent days the club and the coach are already ready to give away Kvara and Di Lorenzo to do some great players arrive, we'll see...
It can be hoped that Napoli will experience improvement if they have a coach as good as Conte. Because Conte has a lot of experience which will be very useful for rebuilding Napoli into a better club next season. But I'm curious whether Napoli will really dare to buy lots of new players in this transfer market. Because for several seasons Napoli seemed to rarely buy expensive players. In fact, I now doubt that they will succeed in getting Lukaku because Chelsea doesn't seem to have any intention of swapping Osimhen for Lukaku but Chelsea seems to just want to make a deal to sell Lukaku. And the price the Blues want is 38 million pounds to let Lukaku go. And I doubt Napoli will agree to that. Unless Napoli manages to sell Osimhen for a fantastic price. So bringing in Lukaku will not be a problem for them. But Napoli actually also has quite good finances. So if they seriously intend to bring in Lukaku then they can do that.

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June 03, 2024, 12:54:44 PM
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It can be hoped that Napoli will experience improvement if they have a coach as good as Conte. Because Conte has a lot of experience which will be very useful for rebuilding Napoli into a better club next season. But I'm curious whether Napoli will really dare to buy lots of new players in this transfer market. Because for several seasons Napoli seemed to rarely buy expensive players. In fact, I now doubt that they will succeed in getting Lukaku because Chelsea doesn't seem to have any intention of swapping Osimhen for Lukaku but Chelsea seems to just want to make a deal to sell Lukaku. And the price the Blues want is 38 million pounds to let Lukaku go. And I doubt Napoli will agree to that. Unless Napoli manages to sell Osimhen for a fantastic price. So bringing in Lukaku will not be a problem for them. But Napoli actually also has quite good finances. So if they seriously intend to bring in Lukaku then they can do that.
It's a big opportunity for Atalanta to successfully hire Antonio Conte as their manager. He is an experienced coach that have managed many clubs and achieve many trophies. It's important for Napoli to have such winning mentality of a coach at the club. They should start to prepare a good plan for next season with some good signings to strengthen the squad.

If Napoli can keep Osimhen staying at the club, they will not need to sign Lukaku, because it's clear Osimhen is currently much better that Lukaku as they play in the same position. With Conte as the coach, Napoli should be easy to convince Osimhen to stay with the better project for next season. Napoli need to stop selling their best players if they want to continue their improvement as a team to compete at the highest level.

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June 03, 2024, 12:59:54 PM
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Today is the big day for Napoli. Antonio Conte has landed in Capodichinio and is ready to sign. However, I would never have expected it from him to sign with Napoli. It is truly incredible that Delaurentis spends so much on a coach who certainly he will ask for a lot of new players and honestly the arrival of Lukaku intrigues me a lot, in three years he will get 18 million which is a lot of money, as we said in recent days the club and the coach are already ready to give away Kvara and Di Lorenzo to do some great players arrive, we'll see...
This is huge for Napoli! HUGE! Conte is a champion and winner. Chelsea, Inter? He guided those teams to success. And he's heading to Naples fired up. He'll change things, which Napoli needs. A team revamp? I promise it'll be lovely. De Laurentiis' wallet is deep. Lukaku? He's only beginning. Players with top-tier talent and winning drive. We may lose some guys, but success costs. An omelet requires several eggs, right?

The move is daring and excellent. Conte is gameless. He expects and gets the best from his players. He's strict but effective. And thats our goal, right? Champions, trophies, glory! Napoli has a new beginning. A winning period. Age of supremacy.

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June 03, 2024, 01:32:45 PM
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Today is the big day for Napoli. Antonio Conte has landed in Capodichinio and is ready to sign. However, I would never have expected it from him to sign with Napoli. It is truly incredible that Delaurentis spends so much on a coach who certainly he will ask for a lot of new players and honestly the arrival of Lukaku intrigues me a lot, in three years he will get 18 million which is a lot of money, as we said in recent days the club and the coach are already ready to give away Kvara and Di Lorenzo to do some great players arrive, we'll see...
It is a good move for Napoli because last season was a mess for them due to their inconsistency. Conte is a good coach and he will be able to get the players of his choice to work with in order for him a achieve a good result, if possible win the league at the end of next season.

The money from those three players will go far in purchase of new players because Osinhem and De Llorence would be sold for a big amount. Seria A will be very interesting next season because clubs are loading and offloading players and coach to get the best result next season. Lukaku has shown his quality in Seria A, and he will be a good replacement for Osinhem

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If Napoli can keep Osimhen staying at the club, they will not need to sign Lukaku, because it's clear Osimhen is currently much better that Lukaku as they play in the same position. With Conte as the coach, Napoli should be easy to convince Osimhen to stay with the better project for next season. Napoli need to stop selling their best players if they want to continue their improvement as a team to compete at the highest level.
That is very correct. Osimhen might also think about staying if Conte was there as coach. But Osimhen could also think about going to a club that currently has a ticket to UCL. because sometimes great players always want great achievements too. But if Osimhen still chooses Napoli and the club keeps him. So Napoli no longer needs to think about how to get Lukaku. Napoli only needs to add several other strong players from the transfer market. Especially I saw that their midfielder and back positions were not very good throughout the season that just ended. but it could also be because the previous coach was not optimal in utilizing the existing players. Napoli can focus more on Serie A next season. So I am quite sure that Napoli will again achieve good results next season in Serie A.

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June 03, 2024, 02:13:12 PM
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We watched Atalanta and Fiorentina in the last game of the league, all the goals came in the first half. I expected Atalanta to win, but they couldn't get the better of their opponents at home, even though they had more possession. Fiorentina started the match fast. Fiorentina took a 1-0 lead with Belotti's goal in the first minutes, but conceded 6 minutes later. Fiorentina managed to take the lead again 6 minutes after the goal and closed the first half of the match 3-2 ahead. In the second half, we didn't see many positions.
Atalanta had an accident last night, they couldn't aim for a draw at home, but last night's failure will not have any impact on them, because in the closing match of the Italian Serie A last night it seemed like Fiorentina was ready to give it all up against Atalanta to give them a surprise, and sure enough they managed to win 2-3 in the first half for Fiorentina.

I also thought the same as you that Atalanta would be successful last night but what happened was the opposite, but looking at Atalanta this season they were satisfied in 4th place, and they didn't act like usual they were quite calm in the second half, even though their hard efforts didn't produce results, Atalanta is in a good position at the end of the season.

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June 03, 2024, 02:17:05 PM
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Napoli is trying to get their squad back together and it's clear in this new signings they are making in recent times, the exit of osimhen and other key players who are leaving aswell is most definitely going to be of challenge to them if they don't get to find better and fitting replacement of which I see that it's what Napoli seem to be doing already which I consider the right step in the right direction .

But beyond just getting new and good players is them working on their strategy nd for the coach, he needs to improve his tactics and building good relationship amongst players while encouraging them to maintain good relationship aswell amongst team members because that was a key factor that affected how productive they did turned out this season, at the point where there were some crisis amongst players in the team which wasn't settled completely, the team started experiencing set backs which affected them till the end of the season.

Now with the sales of the three players who are about exiting Napoli, the economic strength of the team is mostly going to improve and have a relatively good shape with which they will be able to afford good players to get the team back to a good form such that they can attempt the league title again in this coming season since they were unable to defend the trophy this season, it's an opportunity to try again next season.

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June 03, 2024, 02:18:51 PM
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Today is the big day for Napoli. Antonio Conte has landed in Capodichinio and is ready to sign. However, I would never have expected it from him to sign with Napoli. It is truly incredible that Delaurentis spends so much on a coach who certainly he will ask for a lot of new players and honestly the arrival of Lukaku intrigues me a lot, in three years he will get 18 million which is a lot of money, as we said in recent days the club and the coach are already ready to give away Kvara and Di Lorenzo to do some great players arrive, we'll see...
Well these are the speculation from sportfans and analysis which if it turns out to be so then Napoli would be back to their glory days, I mean it was really crazy seeing a team which had so much fire and high value and stability turn out to be something else I mean no one would have expected Napoli to be this ruined by the end of the season and in their case I think it's definitely the coach that is to be responsible because I feel his pattern aren't much of any effect again and that's why teams in the league are not responding to it.

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June 03, 2024, 02:42:06 PM
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We watched Atalanta and Fiorentina in the last game of the league, all the goals came in the first half. I expected Atalanta to win, but they couldn't get the better of their opponents at home, even though they had more possession. Fiorentina started the match fast. Fiorentina took a 1-0 lead with Belotti's goal in the first minutes, but conceded 6 minutes later. Fiorentina managed to take the lead again 6 minutes after the goal and closed the first half of the match 3-2 ahead. In the second half, we didn't see many positions.
Atalanta had an accident last night, they couldn't aim for a draw at home, but last night's failure will not have any impact on them, because in the closing match of the Italian Serie A last night it seemed like Fiorentina was ready to give it all up against Atalanta to give them a surprise, and sure enough they managed to win 2-3 in the first half for Fiorentina.

I also thought the same as you that Atalanta would be successful last night but what happened was the opposite, but looking at Atalanta this season they were satisfied in 4th place, and they didn't act like usual they were quite calm in the second half, even though their hard efforts didn't produce results, Atalanta is in a good position at the end of the season.

This was kind of unexpected, to be honest. Because everyone, well almost everyone expected Atalanta to win this match. By the way, all the goals were scored in the first half. It was actually a little surprising that we had five goals in the first half and none in the second. Atalanta had created good chances but they were unable to score. Even though they had played really well in this season so far, the finish could have been better.

It was Nicolás González who changed the direction of the whole game before his great shoot the score was 1-1, and with his score, Fiorentina led the game with new strength and ended up winning by 3-2. Of course congratulations to Fiorentina for being able to win the last match of the season. Even though it is not going to have any effect on the table for them, it is still going to boost their confidence before going through to the next season.


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June 03, 2024, 03:00:41 PM
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Teams relegated this season
  • Frosinone
  • Sassoulo
  • Salernitana
The positions of these three teams will be replaced by Parma, Como and Venezia, especially for Como, it has been a long wait for them to return to Serie A, approximately two decades before they can return to the highest division.

Today is the big day for Napoli. Antonio Conte has landed in Capodichinio and is ready to sign. However, I would never have expected it from him to sign with Napoli. It is truly incredible that Delaurentis spends so much on a coach who certainly he will ask for a lot of new players and honestly the arrival of Lukaku intrigues me a lot, in three years he will get 18 million which is a lot of money, as we said in recent days the club and the coach are already ready to give away Kvara and Di Lorenzo to do some great players arrive, we'll see...
It has been rumored since the middle of last season that Antonio Conte will become coach at Napoli but he denied it and it seems he doesn't want to become a coach in the middle of the season which of course there is no preparation because he is just a substitute and we know that teams that make changes in the middle of the season are definitely because the results are bad, so Conte made the right decision by only accepting the offer after the season was over.
It is hoped that he can bring Napoli back to being a competitive team, although it may be difficult to become champions again, but at least they can be in the top four so they can play in European competitions, and with his experience, he should be able to do that smoothly in his first season with Napoli

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After the season is over, after yesterday's final and given that Atalanta themselves won the Europa League final, this game looks like a mockery of common sense. I wouldn't be surprised if the game ends 0-0 and the players walk the entire game.
By the way, I’m surprised that the situation in Serie A developed so that Roma did not get a place in the Champions League; if Atalanta had been a little more modest and remained in 5th place, then Roma would have gotten a ticket.

Yeah it really was, but at least we watched so many goals.  Grin  The interesting was all of 5 goals were scored in the first half and all shots on target ended up with goals at the same time. But the second half was very boring honestly.  Sad  Anyways, it is still a good way of putting an end to a season, with a goal show. If only Atalanta got one point against Torino last week as well...

Then we could have seen Roma also in the Champions League. I didn't expect a match fixing from Atalanta of course.  Grin  But they were already going to the Champions League so they didn't need to play that good and win.

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Well these are the speculation from sportfans and analysis which if it turns out to be so then Napoli would be back to their glory days, I mean it was really crazy seeing a team which had so much fire and high value and stability turn out to be something else I mean no one would have expected Napoli to be this ruined by the end of the season and in their case I think it's definitely the coach that is to be responsible because I feel his pattern aren't much of any effect again and that's why teams in the league are not responding to it.
whatever happens to the future of the team or the results that a team gets, it is the coach who should have full responsibility for the mistake, but in the case of Napoli we have to look at several sides which will be fairer to see who made the bigger mistake and according to I would be wiser if I blamed the Napoli president who always wants to get big achievements instantly and the Napoli president hopes that by replacing the coach several times he can bring about short lived changes but that is only the Napoli president's expectations without understanding the best way to achieve the prestigious title that must be obtained him the players.
from all these things you can see here or at Napoli, the role of the coach is not something wrong because the new coach that was recently brought in by Napoli is just carrying out his duties well but it is not easy to combine the strategy of the new coach with all the Napoli players.

In the next season Napoli might be very bad if the management still has the desire to get instant results and continues to replace coaches which ends up causing the team to collapse.
Napoli already has several quality players and now Napoli only needs one coach who is experienced and retained for a long time to provide the opportunity to prove that this coach can produce perfect results.

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June 03, 2024, 03:12:11 PM
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We watched Atalanta and Fiorentina in the last game of the league, all the goals came in the first half.I expected Atalanta to win, but they couldn't get the better of their opponents at home, even though they had more possession. Fiorentina started the match fast. Fiorentina took a 1-0 lead with Belotti's goal in the first minutes, but conceded 6 minutes later. Fiorentina managed to take the lead again 6 minutes after the goal and closed the first half of the match 3-2 ahead. In the second half, we didn't see many positions.

The match between Atalanta and Fiorentina was very interesting. In fact, I did not expect both teams to be so serious about the match because I knew beforehand that any team that won would not change their position on the table. It was surprising that they came out serious, but I think both teams just wanted to keep good records against each other. Before the match started, everyone expected Atalanta to win the game since it was their home game and they were in better shape than Fiorentina. However, surprisingly, Atalanta not only failed to win but also  failed draw the match but lost to Fiorentina.With what happened yesterday, many people's predictions went wrong, and many will lose their bets.

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If Napoli can keep Osimhen staying at the club, they will not need to sign Lukaku, because it's clear Osimhen is currently much better that Lukaku as they play in the same position. With Conte as the coach, Napoli should be easy to convince Osimhen to stay with the better project for next season. Napoli need to stop selling their best players if they want to continue their improvement as a team to compete at the highest level.
That is very correct. Osimhen might also think about staying if Conte was there as coach. But Osimhen could also think about going to a club that currently has a ticket to UCL. because sometimes great players always want great achievements too. But if Osimhen still chooses Napoli and the club keeps him. So Napoli no longer needs to think about how to get Lukaku. Napoli only needs to add several other strong players from the transfer market. Especially I saw that their midfielder and back positions were not very good throughout the season that just ended. but it could also be because the previous coach was not optimal in utilizing the existing players. Napoli can focus more on Serie A next season. So I am quite sure that Napoli will again achieve good results next season in Serie A.
The reputation of a coach sometimes has an impact on a player deciding his future. Not playing in Champions League is another hurdle for a player to stay at the club. The decision is now the hand of Osimhen, he will need to have priority to choose between his career achievement or his comfortness to keep playing for Napoli for another season.

If Napoli want to keep Osimhen staying at the club, they need to show their ambition with better project by signing more quality players. Strengthening the defense and midfield will probably convince their important players to stay at the club. Napoli also should not put a high target on the players and the coach, the top four finish is the realistic target with the current squad with new manager.

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June 03, 2024, 04:06:41 PM
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Napoli moved quickly to bring in a new coach who they thought would be able to improve their game next season, Antonio Conte was the name they finally chose to appoint as coach. Previously they were also linked with the Atalanta coach and this rumor was actually the strongest news, but it turned out that Antonio Conte was their final choice.
Napoli are well aware of the decline they have experienced this season, so they will do whatever they can to improve their game next season, including spending a lot of money to bring in a new coach. Napili hopes that Conte's joining as coach can provide fresh air for Napoli's very disappointing game this season.
This is a decision that I think Napoli took correctly, because their previous coach did not make any progress so they had to look for a new coach who was thought to be able to improve the performance of the team's game.
I do not think that they actually "moved quick" Cheesy. In a cheeky sense, they probably had Conte ready for a long time and did not really get him quickly, they probably agreed with him verbally for a month or maybe more now, and they said they will sign the contract when the season ends, and that is why it looked quick, but in reality wasn't.

I can't know for sure of course, maybe they had just one talk and everything was set, maybe that was the case, I do not really know, I just think that we are talking about way too quick, like can't be one phone call, so it must be done before it was officially declared. I think Napoli will do much better next season, top five at least, because Conte is an amazing manager who can bring the best out of any team.

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The match between Atalanta and Fiorentina was very interesting. In fact, I did not expect both teams to be so serious about the match because I knew beforehand that any team that won would not change their position on the table. It was surprising that they came out serious, but I think both teams just wanted to keep good records against each other. Before the match started, everyone expected Atalanta to win the game since it was their home game and they were in better shape than Fiorentina. However, surprisingly, Atalanta not only failed to win but also  failed draw the match but lost to Fiorentina.With what happened yesterday, many people's predictions went wrong, and many will lose their bets.
Atalanta wasted the opportunity to finish in 3rd place in the standings, even though on paper they are very favorites, it is clear that many bettors experienced losses in the last Serie A match. Fiorentina was able to act beyond predictions, they were able to recover after losing to Olympiakos, I think Fiorentina was very lucky. This result does not mean anything for Fiorentina, because the additional three points do not change their position in the standings. Meanwhile, Atalanta achievements this season are truly extraordinary, especially in the Europa League. In my opinion, Atalanta could be a serious challenge for the team challenging for the Scudetto next season, it is possible that they will be one of the teams capable of putting pressure on Inter Milan.

Meanwhile, on the other hand, Atalanta actually has to increase the depth of their squad, because next season they will play in the Champions League, it is not easy to create balance without having a good squad. Luck like that in the Europa League will probably not happen again, because the intensity of competition in the Champions League is very different.

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June 03, 2024, 04:25:19 PM
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whatever happens to the future of the team or the results that a team gets, it is the coach who should have full responsibility for the mistake, but in the case of Napoli we have to look at several sides which will be fairer to see who made the bigger mistake and according to I would be wiser if I blamed the Napoli president who always wants to get big achievements instantly and the Napoli president hopes that by replacing the coach several times he can bring about short lived changes but that is only the Napoli president's expectations without understanding the best way to achieve the prestigious title that must be obtained him the players.
from all these things you can see here or at Napoli, the role of the coach is not something wrong because the new coach that was recently brought in by Napoli is just carrying out his duties well but it is not easy to combine the strategy of the new coach with all the Napoli players.

In the next season Napoli might be very bad if the management still has the desire to get instant results and continues to replace coaches which ends up causing the team to collapse.
Napoli already has several quality players and now Napoli only needs one coach who is experienced and retained for a long time to provide the opportunity to prove that this coach can produce perfect results.
I think Napoli know a lot that they can't expect instant results with any coach, of course they know a lot more than us here. The departure of Luciano Spalletti has made Napoli lose the best form of their team and this is a normal thing that happens to a club that is achieving success. Rudi Garcia, Walter Mazzarri, Francesco Calzona were never the same as Luciano Spalletti, and that is the reason why Napoli failed.

Napoli really wanted to maintain their reputation as defending champions in Serie A after Spalletti left, but this could not be achieved because all the coaches hired could not produce maximum results as expected. Letting the same coach like Rudi Garcia coach Napoli won't improve things, he was only able to have statistics of 1.75 points per game in 16 matches, while the two newest coaches are much worse.

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June 03, 2024, 04:37:52 PM
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Congratulations Venezia you are the last team to qualify for Serie A.
The result of leg 2 of the play off Venezia vs Cremonese was won by Venezia 1-0. There is 1 Venezia player Jay Idzes from my country and I feel proud of his achievement. He is still young, but since his arrival at Venezia he has always been a regular choice.  Although he is a hereditary player it seems that he will become the first Indonesian player to play in Serie A, one of the world's best leagues. My hope is that Venezia can continue to compete in Serie A not just for one year but that Venezia can survive and compete with other teams. Venezia is a former Serie A team that was relegated in 21/22 and today they are back again.

Source: https://football-italia.net/venezia-are-third-team-promoted-to-serie-a-in-2023-24/


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Venezia was in the Serie A in the 2021–22 season. But they got relegated to being at the absolute bottom of the table. They have done well to get the promotion again. This time it looks like they have hope. Probably this time they will not actually get relegated. I am looking forward to seeing them perform in the Serie A. The biggest for them is going to be to avoid relegation. But they have to realize that it is not going to be easy. in this season, even though the performance of the team which was at the absolute bottom was not good at all, there was a very big fight between the teams that were at the bottom to avoid relegation. And till the last match, it was not sure which team was going to get relegated. so the competition is very big. It is going to be hard for them to survive. But they are showing improvements. And the way the big teams are making mistakes recently, there will definitely be chances in front of them to gather a good amount of points to avoid relegation.

I can feel your excitement about Jay Idzes, this season he played 29 matches and netted 3 goals, not much bad, hope in Serie A we will see good improvement from this 24-year-old Midfielder. Smiley

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