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June 11, 2024, 06:10:06 AM
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'Made us grow' - Leandro Paredes aims subtle dig at Jose Mourinho as Roma midfielder claims Daniele De Rossi's style 'suits the team better' ahead of Europa League semi-final clash with Bayer Leverkusen
Leandro Paredes says Daniele De Rossi has made Roma "grow" as his "style suits the team better", in a subtle dig at Jose Mourinho.
Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/lists/leandro-paredes-dig-jose-mourinho-roma-daniele-de-rossi-style-europa-league-semi-final-bayer-leverkusen/blt1fb90cfc1f4b546d

Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".

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June 11, 2024, 06:24:13 AM
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Did anyone realize that the competition in Serie A has not been up to the mark?

By that, I mean almost all of the teams in this league have just not been good enough in the Champions League competition. The last time any Italian team was able to win the Champions League competition was back in the 2009-10 season if I recall correctly. And it was Inter who won the Champions League.

After that, I do not remember any team from the Italian league actually winning the Champions League title. Are the teams in the Serie A has just become that bad? I know recently a lot of Italian teams have been facing some legal problems with their players, their coaches, and even their owners. Are these the reasons why they have not been able to do well in the Champions League competition? That is definitely a factor if you ask me. It also does not seem like any team from the Italian league will probably win the Champions League competition anytime soon.

Source: Olympics



The last time italian club won UCL was more than a decade ago.

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La Liga owns the majority of the UCL trophy because Real Madrid has consistently won it. Real madrid is owning 15 tropohies alone combined with barcelona. It would be different if Madrid were not in La Liga. Madrid has carried la liga to win so many UCL titles. Serie A was not a horrible team, especially since they may still advance to the UCL final. The only main problem if any serie a clubs were qualifying to the final was not able making a proper finishing. It has made club bottled the trophy

The main problem is that they lack a winning mentality. You can see from how intermilan has bottled it last seasons. It can be seen from how Intermilan failed in the 2022/2023 final versus Manchester City. They presently hold 5 UCL places now. It enhances the likelihood that Italian teams will remain in the UCL for an extended period but it must be noted that if it doesn't guarantee italian club to have greater chance in winning UCL.  King is back now. Real madrid is ready to break its 3 times UCL winners in a row.  

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June 11, 2024, 07:10:55 AM
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Did anyone realize that the competition in Serie A has not been up to the mark?

By that, I mean almost all of the teams in this league have just not been good enough in the Champions League competition. The last time any Italian team was able to win the Champions League competition was back in the 2009-10 season if I recall correctly. And it was Inter who won the Champions League.

After that, I do not remember any team from the Italian league actually winning the Champions League title. Are the teams in the Serie A has just become that bad? I know recently a lot of Italian teams have been facing some legal problems with their players, their coaches, and even their owners. Are these the reasons why they have not been able to do well in the Champions League competition? That is definitely a factor if you ask me. It also does not seem like any team from the Italian league will probably win the Champions League competition anytime soon.

Source: Olympics



The last time italian club won UCL was more than a decade ago.

Wiki

La Liga owns the majority of the UCL trophy because Real Madrid has consistently won it. Real madrid is owning 15 tropohies alone combined with barcelona. It would be different if Madrid were not in La Liga. Madrid has carried la liga to win so many UCL titles. Serie A was not a horrible team, especially since they may still advance to the UCL final. The only main problem if any serie a clubs were qualifying to the final was not able making a proper finishing. It has made club bottled the trophy

The main problem is that they lack a winning mentality. You can see from how intermilan has bottled it last seasons. It can be seen from how Intermilan failed in the 2022/2023 final versus Manchester City. They presently hold 5 UCL places now. It enhances the likelihood that Italian teams will remain in the UCL for an extended period but it must be noted that if it doesn't guarantee italian club to have greater chance in winning UCL.  King is back now. Real madrid is ready to break its 3 times UCL winners in a row.  


Let's always remember that Italy has always been well present in the Champions League, now we have the overwhelming power of the Spanish in recent years, but let's also remember that when Real Madrid were Galacticos there were teams like Milan, Juve and Inter who have always been imposed on these great teams and they have sometimes achieved great results, so we can expect anything and the great teams do not always manage to win what they set their minds to winning, football is beautiful for this reason

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June 11, 2024, 08:42:51 AM
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AC Milan is one of the big teams that almost won in the Serie A League last season. Meanwhile, Paulo Fonseca is a coach who has never led the team he coached to victory in the Serie A League. Paulo Fonseca also coached AS Roma in the 2019/20 season and finished in the top five of the standings. I hope AC Milan has considered it carefully when choosing Pauol Fonseca to be the coach of a team as big as AC Milan so as not to cause disappointment in the end.
AC Milan decision to appoint Paulo Fonseca as their coach is surprising one. While Fonseca has shown promise with his previous work at AS Roma his lack of experience in leading team to victory in Serie A is a concern. AC Milan is massive club with high expectations and Fonseca inability to deliver title in his previous roles raises questions about his ability to handle pressure. I hope AC Milan has thoroughly considered Fonseca credentials and has clear plan in place to support him otherwise risk of disappointment is high. Fans and the club deserve better and it's crucial that Fonseca proves himself worthy of this opportunity.
Is this true? I can't understand why Milan is in such a hurry to choose a new coach and if it is true that Paulo Fonseca is the coach then this is a decline for Milan. I am not underestimating Paulo Fonseca but of course Milan should be able to target a more experienced coach considering that the competition in Serie A has always been fierce lately.

On the other hand, if there is no coach who can be equal to Simone Inzaghi then it is certain that Inter will win the Scudetto again. There is nothing we can expect from Milan and perhaps with a fairly good squad depth, it is also difficult for the players' potential to be further improved.

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June 11, 2024, 09:04:11 AM
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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
For this reason, I will not hesitate to say that Roma has indeed developed quite well under De Rossi's coaching. Even though De Rossi has only been in charge of Roma since the middle of last season. but the results were enough to make all of us who watched want to express our appreciation to De Rossi. But De Rossi was able to make Roma improve not only because of his own results. But because the Roma squad has been built well by Mourinho. So Mourinho's contribution is still there in the good results shown by De Rossi as Roma coach. And the real challenge for De Rossi is next season and in the current player transfer market. Because remember next season Lukaku might not even be there anymore because his loan period has expired. and yeah, De Rossi has to rebuild the squad as best as possible. And yes, limited transfer funds can be an obstacle in this case. But I feel that Roma have made a good decision in bringing in De Rossi.

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June 11, 2024, 09:13:36 AM
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After watching Inter this season I think the other teams will really need to make a huge progress this summer.  Sad  Because the gap is just enormous now. Maybe you will say Napoli were also like this in the prior season and failed later on. However Spalletti left the team which caused big problems to start for Napoli right after.

There isn't such thing for Inter. They are moving on with Simone Inzaghi. I believe they have the best squad in the league at the same time. In this situation it wouldn't be seeing them winning a back-to-back title unless we see some reaction from another team.

Inter Milan are very to have a good coach like Simone Inzaghi, he stands up for the team and makes sure he brings out the good performances from the players, inter Milan won the league title without any stress because they are leading the remaining teams with a lot of points that no any other team can compete with them, and with the way inter Milan performance stands now they are capable of winning the league title next season, inter Milan is very happy with their players and the coach performance and they don’t want to lose any of them that is why they want them to sign a new contract for another year so that the future of the team will be very good and end well.

And about Napoli, since Napoli let Spalleti leave the club and sign a new coach I have been saying that it will be very difficult for Napoli to end the season with a good result, they didn’t even end up in playing the Champions League, Europa League or Europa conference league next season, this show that Spalleti is the best coach that can handle Napoli but the team doesn’t think before letting him go, it will be very difficult for Napoli to bounce back with their normal performance and with the way Napoli looks some players will also leave the team.

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June 11, 2024, 10:19:25 AM
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AC Milan is one of the big teams that almost won in the Serie A League last season. Meanwhile, Paulo Fonseca is a coach who has never led the team he coached to victory in the Serie A League. Paulo Fonseca also coached AS Roma in the 2019/20 season and finished in the top five of the standings. I hope AC Milan has considered it carefully when choosing Pauol Fonseca to be the coach of a team as big as AC Milan so as not to cause disappointment in the end.
AC Milan decision to appoint Paulo Fonseca as their coach is surprising one. While Fonseca has shown promise with his previous work at AS Roma his lack of experience in leading team to victory in Serie A is a concern. AC Milan is massive club with high expectations and Fonseca inability to deliver title in his previous roles raises questions about his ability to handle pressure. I hope AC Milan has thoroughly considered Fonseca credentials and has clear plan in place to support him otherwise risk of disappointment is high. Fans and the club deserve better and it's crucial that Fonseca proves himself worthy of this opportunity.
Is this true? I can't understand why Milan is in such a hurry to choose a new coach and if it is true that Paulo Fonseca is the coach then this is a decline for Milan. I am not underestimating Paulo Fonseca but of course Milan should be able to target a more experienced coach considering that the competition in Serie A has always been fierce lately.

On the other hand, if there is no coach who can be equal to Simone Inzaghi then it is certain that Inter will win the Scudetto again. There is nothing we can expect from Milan and perhaps with a fairly good squad depth, it is also difficult for the players' potential to be further improved.
AC Milan actually not hurry because since last month they were look for new manager as the replacement of Poili and at that time Milan has several candidates including Paulo Fonseca and Massimiliano Allegri but i don't know why they more likely to choose Paulo Fonseca rather than other names and i am not really sure the reason why Milan has decide to hire Paulo Fonseca as their next manager but they considers Paulo Fonseca have done well in Lille so Milan feel he is the right manager for them and this is still not officially yet but in the near future Milan will be announce Paulo Fonseca to the public

Some people were doubt Paulo Fonseca can be success in Milan because he still lack of experience to train Serie A team  and next season i am sure Milan will be targetting the scudetto for Paulo Fonseca but i personally highly doubt he can realized Milan target and i don't know why i personally more prefer Massimiliano Allegri to handle Milan because in my opinion Allegri is much better than Fonseca especially unlike Fonseca Allegri already know the atmosphere of Serie A and it's not hard for him to adapt with Milan and i know Allegri was failed in Juventus but i still feel if Milan hire him Allegri can bringing Milan to compete with Inter for race title and last time i heard is some of Milan fans has disagree with Milan decision to hire Fonseca

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June 11, 2024, 10:57:35 AM
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Lazio - Sassuolo

today Sassuolo will play their last Serie A game, it will probably be a game of negative emotions for all Sassuolo fans who will be watching this be the last Serie A game that their team will play. Next season will have to see Sassuolo playing in the second division and trying to achieve promotion, a task that will not be easy, because a first division team loses a lot when they are relegated.
Yes ,you are right. That is difficult time forSassuolo because they didn't win the match against  Lazio team.Zaccagni played very well and did goal in the first half and the time was 60 minutes after the start of match . Then Sassuolo player played very well and match became balanced because both team score was same. Both teams are not in good condition. They should hard work to improve their performance, otherwise both teams will suffer in future and both teams will be relegate and both team will play second division. In that match, Lazio and Sassuolo shots were equal and Lazio 6 shots were on target and Sassuolo shots on target were only 3 . Possessions of Lazio team was 69 percent and  the passes of Lazio team were 714 . If both teams will play well in the future,they will play against big teams , otherwise they will be relegate.

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Is this true? I can't understand why Milan is in such a hurry to choose a new coach and if it is true that Paulo Fonseca is the coach then this is a decline for Milan. I am not underestimating Paulo Fonseca but of course Milan should be able to target a more experienced coach considering that the competition in Serie A has always been fierce lately.

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I also don't understand why Milan could be so reckless in choosing a coach. Even though this could make Milan unable to compete next season. Because as you said, in Serie A the competition is always tight every season. Apart from that, Pioli actually still deserves to continue serving as Milan coach. Even though this season Pioli failed to bring Milan to become Serie A champions, at least Pioli has provided quite good development for Milan. So I was quite surprised when I found out that Pioli was fired from Milan and would be replaced by Paulo Fonseca. I also don't understand why Milan was so quick to choose a coach, besides that the coach they chose could also be said to not be a coach who could be said to be quite successful in his coaching career. Because as far as I know, Paulo Fonseca currently serves as coach at Lille, and during his coaching period, Paulo Fonseca has never given Lille a truly prestigious trophy. Even since 2022, when Paulo Fonseca served as Lille coach, in the French League Lille has only been able to be in 5th or 4th position to date. However, the positive thing that Paulo Fonseca can give Lille might be winning a ticket to the Champions League.

So if Paulo Fonseca is compared to Pioli, the comparison is very far. But it can't be helped, Milan management's decision seems to be unanimous regarding this matter. So Milan fans have to accept that their favorite team will be coached by Paulo Fonseca next season. I hope that Paulo Fonseca can make Milan remain a team capable of competing for the Scudetto title next season, even though the possibility is small.

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June 11, 2024, 12:42:07 PM
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The last time italian club won UCL was more than a decade ago.

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La Liga owns the majority of the UCL trophy because Real Madrid has consistently won it. Real madrid is owning 15 tropohies alone combined with barcelona. It would be different if Madrid were not in La Liga. Madrid has carried la liga to win so many UCL titles. Serie A was not a horrible team, especially since they may still advance to the UCL final. The only main problem if any serie a clubs were qualifying to the final was not able making a proper finishing. It has made club bottled the trophy

The main problem is that they lack a winning mentality. You can see from how intermilan has bottled it last seasons. It can be seen from how Intermilan failed in the 2022/2023 final versus Manchester City. They presently hold 5 UCL places now. It enhances the likelihood that Italian teams will remain in the UCL for an extended period but it must be noted that if it doesn't guarantee italian club to have greater chance in winning UCL.  King is back now. Real madrid is ready to break its 3 times UCL winners in a row.  


what you say is true, but you forget to understand the reason for this
the Italian championship is very tiring, think Inter lost to Sassuolo twice, a team that went to Serie B
Every game in the Italian championship is difficult and important, you can`t save resources and effort, it could be damaging and counterproductive
so you understand well that it becomes difficult to do demanding things like UCL

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June 11, 2024, 12:44:19 PM
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Inter Milan are very to have a good coach like Simone Inzaghi, he stands up for the team and makes sure he brings out the good performances from the players, inter Milan won the league title without any stress because they are leading the remaining teams with a lot of points that no any other team can compete with them, and with the way inter Milan performance stands now they are capable of winning the league title next season, inter Milan is very happy with their players and the coach performance and they don’t want to lose any of them that is why they want them to sign a new contract for another year so that the future of the team will be very good and end well.

And about Napoli, since Napoli let Spalleti leave the club and sign a new coach I have been saying that it will be very difficult for Napoli to end the season with a good result, they didn’t even end up in playing the Champions League, Europa League or Europa conference league next season, this show that Spalleti is the best coach that can handle Napoli but the team doesn’t think before letting him go, it will be very difficult for Napoli to bounce back with their normal performance and with the way Napoli looks some players will also leave the team.
Simone Inzaghi deserves to be kept because he succeeded in making the Inter Milan team much more developed and had quite positive progress for the team's progress, but I don't think Inter Milan's success in winning the Scudetto last season without pressure is a benchmark because it all happened for reasons of their profits. because other teams are in decline so it's very likely that next season won't be the case.
I look forward to fierce competition next season after seeing several Serie A teams starting to rise, this could also be proof for Simone Inzaghi.

It is indeed difficult for Napoli to recover, but they have just recruited a quality and experienced coach, namely Antonio Conte, so I think this step could be a consideration to see Napoli's revival next season.

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June 11, 2024, 01:24:07 PM
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Inter Milan are very to have a good coach like Simone Inzaghi, he stands up for the team and makes sure he brings out the good performances from the players, inter Milan won the league title without any stress because they are leading the remaining teams with a lot of points that no any other team can compete with them, and with the way inter Milan performance stands now they are capable of winning the league title next season, inter Milan is very happy with their players and the coach performance and they don?t want to lose any of them that is why they want them to sign a new contract for another year so that the future of the team will be very good and end well.
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even when he was coaching Lazio he wasnt bad at all as a coach, he is Filippo brother, one of Juventus most prolific strikers,
I still remember him both in Juventus and in the national team, a striker of opportunities, a bird of prey ready to strike like a hawk

He, Simone is very good and strategic and I repeat, just look at his work done at Lazio

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June 11, 2024, 01:33:47 PM
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what you say is true, but you forget to understand the reason for this
the Italian championship is very tiring, think Inter lost to Sassuolo twice, a team that went to Serie B
Every game in the Italian championship is difficult and important, you can`t save resources and effort, it could be damaging and counterproductive
so you understand well that it becomes difficult to do demanding things like UCL

I think every league in Europe doesn't have much difference in the number of matches for each participant in the UCL at first. But next they will be different because the strength and ability of each team is different.  In every league they don't only compete for the knockout round, so that's why the competition will have many matches. Saving energy with some rotations is necessary, it will keep the players fit in long competition matches. So saving energy can be done by changing 10-20 minutes before the time runs out. I think every coach will do that. I don't think it will do much damage, but it is a strategy.

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June 11, 2024, 02:09:26 PM
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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".

How on earth can you say such a thing? Jesus Christ! You sound like one of these Jose Mourinho hardcore fans despite knowing that his pattern of football is now outdated and will never win him the Champions League Competition even if he goes to a top level club.

There's been a great change from how they've been playing under Jose Mourinho and Daniel De Rossi. You don't have to be biased, say this thing's the way they're suppose to be, it shows how much of a great sportsman you're or you've been in the past.

They experienced some decline in performance during the last few games of the season bit that don't mean the change and impact De Rossi had wasn't obvious. Funny how I was even one of the early critics of the big man when he was newly appointed head coach of the club.
The management failed to back him up I agree, they should have done better for him which they didn't, but these are the same players Jose utilized that Daniel De Rossi utilized.

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June 11, 2024, 02:21:31 PM
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'Made us grow' - Leandro Paredes aims subtle dig at Jose Mourinho as Roma midfielder claims Daniele De Rossi's style 'suits the team better' ahead of Europa League semi-final clash with Bayer Leverkusen
Leandro Paredes says Daniele De Rossi has made Roma "grow" as his "style suits the team better", in a subtle dig at Jose Mourinho.
Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/lists/leandro-paredes-dig-jose-mourinho-roma-daniele-de-rossi-style-europa-league-semi-final-bayer-leverkusen/blt1fb90cfc1f4b546d

Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho.

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June 11, 2024, 02:25:24 PM
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what you say is true, but you forget to understand the reason for this
the Italian championship is very tiring, think Inter lost to Sassuolo twice, a team that went to Serie B
Every game in the Italian championship is difficult and important, you can`t save resources and effort, it could be damaging and counterproductive
so you understand well that it becomes difficult to do demanding things like UCL

I think every league in Europe doesn't have much difference in the number of matches for each participant in the UCL at first. But next they will be different because the strength and ability of each team is different.  In every league they don't only compete for the knockout round, so that's why the competition will have many matches. Saving energy with some rotations is necessary, it will keep the players fit in long competition matches. So saving energy can be done by changing 10-20 minutes before the time runs out. I think every coach will do that. I don't think it will do much damage, but it is a strategy.

Obviously, rotating players remains the best way to keep the team fit because in one season they will of course play many matches in all competitions. If the team does not rotate, it is very likely that their main players will suffer injuries and of course the injury factor will cause the team to experience bad results. But what is strange is, when a team doesn't make many rotations when playing a mediocre team which is also in the bottom zone of the standings, but the result is still a loss for the seeded team and if that happens, then of course it is a strange result. But indeed, if they have managed to secure the top position and lock it until the end of the season, then maybe they will also play more relaxed and not be too ambitious to win. But if that happens, then of course they also underestimate the opposing team, which of course is not very good for the final result.

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June 11, 2024, 03:50:42 PM
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'Made us grow' - Leandro Paredes aims subtle dig at Jose Mourinho as Roma midfielder claims Daniele De Rossi's style 'suits the team better' ahead of Europa League semi-final clash with Bayer Leverkusen
Leandro Paredes says Daniele De Rossi has made Roma "grow" as his "style suits the team better", in a subtle dig at Jose Mourinho.
Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/lists/leandro-paredes-dig-jose-mourinho-roma-daniele-de-rossi-style-europa-league-semi-final-bayer-leverkusen/blt1fb90cfc1f4b546d

Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?
Hmmm roma's performance is so average under de rossi. I see nothing special from roma at this moment.  

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that.  
Completely agreed with it. Rossi is merely changing the club's gameplay. As you can see, Roma is dominant playing offensively rather than defensively. It demonstrates that some adjustments are being implemented by de Rossi during his time in roma. In terms of results, Mourinho has done better as manager of Roma despite constantly playing conservatively but he was delivering a trophy after roma being trophyless for so long.
I hope you're right about Roma's development. De Rossi's attitude will shift from assisting his side in playing well to focusing on the end goal, such as winning the trophy.
You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
It saddens me roma will not give him money. Rossi will treat rossi the same like what mou received from roma. The management will bring him the new players, but this won't be as per his request.

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June 11, 2024, 03:51:29 PM
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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
I am not saying De Rossi is a bad manager, of course he is a great manager and has done very well there is no reason to say that he is not doing that bad. But we need to remember that we are going to end up with something that will take a while, and Mourinho won them one European cop and another finals as well.

So saying that Mourinho is bad, would not be the point here, because he was quite well and I think he did better as well, at least he was at finals, De Rossi lost at semi finals, to the same team if I am not wrong as well. So all in all I would say that Mourinho is a better manager, but that doesn't mean that De Rossi is a bad one, it's obvious that he is a great one as well, we just need to make sure that it is not a competition.

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June 11, 2024, 04:20:59 PM
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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?

I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. 

You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake.  but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely.  unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
For this reason, I will not hesitate to say that Roma has indeed developed quite well under De Rossi's coaching. Even though De Rossi has only been in charge of Roma since the middle of last season. but the results were enough to make all of us who watched want to express our appreciation to De Rossi. But De Rossi was able to make Roma improve not only because of his own results. But because the Roma squad has been built well by Mourinho. So Mourinho's contribution is still there in the good results shown by De Rossi as Roma coach. And the real challenge for De Rossi is next season and in the current player transfer market. Because remember next season Lukaku might not even be there anymore because his loan period has expired. and yeah, De Rossi has to rebuild the squad as best as possible. And yes, limited transfer funds can be an obstacle in this case. But I feel that Roma have made a good decision in bringing in De Rossi.

One team from another league winning the Champions League title a lot of times, or even both Real Madrid and Barcelona winning the Champions League title a lot of times does not make my argument weak that the performance from the teams of the Italian league has really not been great in the champions league. Sure they have been in the finals but they were not able to win it though. Being second is just not enough.

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Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho.

I don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp. Being present in a competition does not mean that you are doing great in that competition. A lot of countries play in the World Cup. That does not mean that they all have done well in the World Cup. IMLAY there is one winner who is able to win the trophy. And that is the ultimate glory. I am not saying that the teams from the Italian league will not be able to win the Champions League anytime soon. all I am saying is that they have not been able to do it for quite some time now. The possibility of that happening in recent future is also pretty questionable.

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June 11, 2024, 04:26:31 PM
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Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho.
Currently, Roma has officially extended de Rossi contract, although he failed to bring roma to finish in the Champions League zone next season, but performance considerations and also consistency are one of the reasons Roma offered a new contract to De Rossi, this season de Rossi only continues the team that was left by Mourinho, while next season of course he has absolute power to build the team according to his wishes,  I think what De Rossi has achieved this season is certainly inseparable from all Mourinho hard work before he left Roma and De Rossi has only been able to capitalise on that momentum to take Roma even better.

Next season will of course be a real test for de Rossi in carrying out his duties as Roma coach, so indeed he needs strong financial support to build a team and compete for the scudetto, next season we can see many big teams that have made improvements to their squad so inevitably Roma also has to do this if they really want to get the scudetto,  Previously, Mourinho did not get enough budget to build the squad while this season it seems that Roma policy in spending money will also not change, so it is important for De Rossi to be able to maximize the existing budget to be able to get players according to the needs of the team.

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