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June 11, 2024, 01:33:47 PM |
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what you say is true, but you forget to understand the reason for this the Italian championship is very tiring, think Inter lost to Sassuolo twice, a team that went to Serie B Every game in the Italian championship is difficult and important, you can`t save resources and effort, it could be damaging and counterproductive so you understand well that it becomes difficult to do demanding things like UCL
I think every league in Europe doesn't have much difference in the number of matches for each participant in the UCL at first. But next they will be different because the strength and ability of each team is different. In every league they don't only compete for the knockout round, so that's why the competition will have many matches. Saving energy with some rotations is necessary, it will keep the players fit in long competition matches. So saving energy can be done by changing 10-20 minutes before the time runs out. I think every coach will do that. I don't think it will do much damage, but it is a strategy.
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June 11, 2024, 02:09:26 PM |
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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?
I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that.
You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake. but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely. unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
How on earth can you say such a thing? Jesus Christ! You sound like one of these Jose Mourinho hardcore fans despite knowing that his pattern of football is now outdated and will never win him the Champions League Competition even if he goes to a top level club. There's been a great change from how they've been playing under Jose Mourinho and Daniel De Rossi. You don't have to be biased, say this thing's the way they're suppose to be, it shows how much of a great sportsman you're or you've been in the past. They experienced some decline in performance during the last few games of the season bit that don't mean the change and impact De Rossi had wasn't obvious. Funny how I was even one of the early critics of the big man when he was newly appointed head coach of the club. The management failed to back him up I agree, they should have done better for him which they didn't, but these are the same players Jose utilized that Daniel De Rossi utilized.
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June 11, 2024, 02:21:31 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FFsK7G4F%2Fdaniele-de-rossi-as-roma-2023-24-1710167869-131452.jpg&t=665&c=_R_zFCkrP1o52A) 'Made us grow' - Leandro Paredes aims subtle dig at Jose Mourinho as Roma midfielder claims Daniele De Rossi's style 'suits the team better' ahead of Europa League semi-final clash with Bayer Leverkusen Leandro Paredes says Daniele De Rossi has made Roma "grow" as his "style suits the team better", in a subtle dig at Jose Mourinho. Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/lists/leandro-paredes-dig-jose-mourinho-roma-daniele-de-rossi-style-europa-league-semi-final-bayer-leverkusen/blt1fb90cfc1f4b546dGuys, any opinion about the performance of Roma? I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake. but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely. unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish " an improvement". Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho.
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June 11, 2024, 02:25:24 PM |
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what you say is true, but you forget to understand the reason for this the Italian championship is very tiring, think Inter lost to Sassuolo twice, a team that went to Serie B Every game in the Italian championship is difficult and important, you can`t save resources and effort, it could be damaging and counterproductive so you understand well that it becomes difficult to do demanding things like UCL
I think every league in Europe doesn't have much difference in the number of matches for each participant in the UCL at first. But next they will be different because the strength and ability of each team is different. In every league they don't only compete for the knockout round, so that's why the competition will have many matches. Saving energy with some rotations is necessary, it will keep the players fit in long competition matches. So saving energy can be done by changing 10-20 minutes before the time runs out. I think every coach will do that. I don't think it will do much damage, but it is a strategy. Obviously, rotating players remains the best way to keep the team fit because in one season they will of course play many matches in all competitions. If the team does not rotate, it is very likely that their main players will suffer injuries and of course the injury factor will cause the team to experience bad results. But what is strange is, when a team doesn't make many rotations when playing a mediocre team which is also in the bottom zone of the standings, but the result is still a loss for the seeded team and if that happens, then of course it is a strange result. But indeed, if they have managed to secure the top position and lock it until the end of the season, then maybe they will also play more relaxed and not be too ambitious to win. But if that happens, then of course they also underestimate the opposing team, which of course is not very good for the final result.
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June 11, 2024, 03:50:42 PM |
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Hmmm roma's performance is so average under de rossi. I see nothing special from roma at this moment. I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that.
Completely agreed with it. Rossi is merely changing the club's gameplay. As you can see, Roma is dominant playing offensively rather than defensively. It demonstrates that some adjustments are being implemented by de Rossi during his time in roma. In terms of results, Mourinho has done better as manager of Roma despite constantly playing conservatively but he was delivering a trophy after roma being trophyless for so long. I hope you're right about Roma's development. De Rossi's attitude will shift from assisting his side in playing well to focusing on the end goal, such as winning the trophy. You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake. but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely. unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
It saddens me roma will not give him money. Rossi will treat rossi the same like what mou received from roma. The management will bring him the new players, but this won't be as per his request.
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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?
I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that.
You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake. but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely. unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
I am not saying De Rossi is a bad manager, of course he is a great manager and has done very well there is no reason to say that he is not doing that bad. But we need to remember that we are going to end up with something that will take a while, and Mourinho won them one European cop and another finals as well. So saying that Mourinho is bad, would not be the point here, because he was quite well and I think he did better as well, at least he was at finals, De Rossi lost at semi finals, to the same team if I am not wrong as well. So all in all I would say that Mourinho is a better manager, but that doesn't mean that De Rossi is a bad one, it's obvious that he is a great one as well, we just need to make sure that it is not a competition.
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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?
I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that.
You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake. but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely. unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish "an improvement".
For this reason, I will not hesitate to say that Roma has indeed developed quite well under De Rossi's coaching. Even though De Rossi has only been in charge of Roma since the middle of last season. but the results were enough to make all of us who watched want to express our appreciation to De Rossi. But De Rossi was able to make Roma improve not only because of his own results. But because the Roma squad has been built well by Mourinho. So Mourinho's contribution is still there in the good results shown by De Rossi as Roma coach. And the real challenge for De Rossi is next season and in the current player transfer market. Because remember next season Lukaku might not even be there anymore because his loan period has expired. and yeah, De Rossi has to rebuild the squad as best as possible. And yes, limited transfer funds can be an obstacle in this case. But I feel that Roma have made a good decision in bringing in De Rossi. One team from another league winning the Champions League title a lot of times, or even both Real Madrid and Barcelona winning the Champions League title a lot of times does not make my argument weak that the performance from the teams of the Italian league has really not been great in the champions league. Sure they have been in the finals but they were not able to win it though. Being second is just not enough. ...
Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho. I don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp. Being present in a competition does not mean that you are doing great in that competition. A lot of countries play in the World Cup. That does not mean that they all have done well in the World Cup. IMLAY there is one winner who is able to win the trophy. And that is the ultimate glory. I am not saying that the teams from the Italian league will not be able to win the Champions League anytime soon. all I am saying is that they have not been able to do it for quite some time now. The possibility of that happening in recent future is also pretty questionable.
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Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho.
Currently, Roma has officially extended de Rossi contract, although he failed to bring roma to finish in the Champions League zone next season, but performance considerations and also consistency are one of the reasons Roma offered a new contract to De Rossi, this season de Rossi only continues the team that was left by Mourinho, while next season of course he has absolute power to build the team according to his wishes, I think what De Rossi has achieved this season is certainly inseparable from all Mourinho hard work before he left Roma and De Rossi has only been able to capitalise on that momentum to take Roma even better. Next season will of course be a real test for de Rossi in carrying out his duties as Roma coach, so indeed he needs strong financial support to build a team and compete for the scudetto, next season we can see many big teams that have made improvements to their squad so inevitably Roma also has to do this if they really want to get the scudetto, Previously, Mourinho did not get enough budget to build the squad while this season it seems that Roma policy in spending money will also not change, so it is important for De Rossi to be able to maximize the existing budget to be able to get players according to the needs of the team.
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I think, those two players has contributed positively to Napoli which if they are willing to remain in the team, the management will like to give them a good offer that will make them feel reliable with the team until their contract expire. The reason kvaratskhelia rejected the offer PSG offer to him is because he discovered that the opportunity for him to shine the way he used to shine in Napoli team is not going to be there for him and it will make his fans not to be happy if he don't perform well to the team satisfaction. I don't think, Victor Osimhen will accept any offer from Napoli management again in this season, because his eyes is on premier league teams and he is willing to leave Napoli in this season, if the opportunity come from premier league teams.
Besides that, Serie A is much more interesting than League 1, therefore I agree with Kvaratskhelia's decision because in Serie A he can still develop his abilities. In League 1 there is no exciting challenge because PSG will still be champions without great players even League 1 was created just for PSG (do you understand what I mean?) I still remember last season Osimhen received many popular offers to immediately move from Napoli but Osimhen instead decided to stay. Now Napoli, who initially really wanted him to stay, actually backfired and deliberately wanted to sell him. I won't blame Napoli because in this case Osimhen is the one who feels the consequences. Too confident with the price set and then thought other clubs needed it more but now all of that has to be swallowed . Osimhen fate at Napoli will soon end, and his career will not be as brilliant as last season. Luckily, Premier League clubs like Chelsea are still interested. This is last opportunity for Osimhen to get out of his comfort zone and challenge himself in much tougher competition, he must be able to prove that he is worthy of being a competitor. Honestly, there is no point in going to the Ligue 1 from Serie A. Serie A is literally a better competitive league compared to that one. And it will also be a big mistake for those players if they actually want to go to Ligue 1. They are not going to have any chance of winning the Champions League. Well, they might not have any chance at winning the Champions League even in the Italian League as well because it’s been almost 15 years since any team from the Italian league has actually been able to win the Champions League trophy. What I am trying to say is that it is going to be a good decision for them to stay where they are instead of going to Ligue 1 even if they are not participating in the Champions League competition. Osimhen is in high demand but the price is too high. It is like that latest tech which has a very high price but you know it is not a very big improvement probably. Regards Duke
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F3R3G578%2Fucl.jpg&t=665&c=t17OKD_Umjxt2w) Did anyone realize that the competition in Serie A has not been up to the mark? By that, I mean almost all of the teams in this league have just not been good enough in the Champions League competition. The last time any Italian team was able to win the Champions League competition was back in the 2009-10 season if I recall correctly. And it was Inter who won the Champions League. After that, I do not remember any team from the Italian league actually winning the Champions League title. Are the teams in the Serie A has just become that bad? I know recently a lot of Italian teams have been facing some legal problems with their players, their coaches, and even their owners. Are these the reasons why they have not been able to do well in the Champions League competition? That is definitely a factor if you ask me. It also does not seem like any team from the Italian league will probably win the Champions League competition anytime soon. Source: OlympicsLast season Inter Milan almost succeeded in the Champions League. And the Italian teams even managed to dominate as the clubs that made the most of the quarter-finals and semi-finals in the previous season in the UCL. but unfortunately that doesn't happen this season. Even teams from Italy also had to fall early. So there has indeed been a clear setback this season. and in the last few seasons. But this problem is actually also reflected in the finances of the Italian clubs themselves. Maybe it's rarely reported, but in fact many Italian clubs have been facing financial problems for a long time. So this can also be seen in the player transfer market where Italian clubs are no longer the clubs that are the bravest in making high offers. High offers always come from clubs from other leagues. So in my opinion the problem is financial itself. That's one of them and maybe there are other problems too, like there are a lot of sanctions or something like that there.
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Last season Inter Milan almost succeeded in the Champions League. And the Italian teams even managed to dominate as the clubs that made the most of the quarter-finals and semi-finals in the previous season in the UCL. but unfortunately that doesn't happen this season. Even teams from Italy also had to fall early. So there has indeed been a clear setback this season. and in the last few seasons. But this problem is actually also reflected in the finances of the Italian clubs themselves. Maybe it's rarely reported, but in fact many Italian clubs have been facing financial problems for a long time. So this can also be seen in the player transfer market where Italian clubs are no longer the clubs that are the bravest in making high offers. High offers always come from clubs from other leagues. So in my opinion the problem is financial itself. That's one of them and maybe there are other problems too, like there are a lot of sanctions or something like that there.
The financial problems of clubs in Serie A rarely receive coverage in the sports news media. Even though there are several clubs that have even been on the verge of bankruptcy several times, fortunately these clubs always managed to improve their situation and did not go bankrupt. even though their financial problems are still not resolved. But still I might appreciate every club in Serie A. Because even though the clubs in Serie A don't spend as much as other clubs in other leagues. But in Serie A clubs I see that these clubs can bring out the maximum potential of a player they bring in. So many players come to Serie A as ordinary players. But after several seasons playing in Serie A he turned into a player who was in great demand by other clubs from other leagues. And maybe in the next few seasons we will be able to see Serie A clubs starting to dominate more in the UCL.
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Currently, Roma has officially extended de Rossi contract, although he failed to bring roma to finish in the Champions League zone next season, but performance considerations and also consistency are one of the reasons Roma offered a new contract to De Rossi, this season de Rossi only continues the team that was left by Mourinho, while next season of course he has absolute power to build the team according to his wishes, I think what De Rossi has achieved this season is certainly inseparable from all Mourinho hard work before he left Roma and De Rossi has only been able to capitalise on that momentum to take Roma even better. Next season will of course be a real test for de Rossi in carrying out his duties as Roma coach, so indeed he needs strong financial support to build a team and compete for the scudetto, next season we can see many big teams that have made improvements to their squad so inevitably Roma also has to do this if they really want to get the scudetto, Previously, Mourinho did not get enough budget to build the squad while this season it seems that Roma policy in spending money will also not change, so it is important for De Rossi to be able to maximize the existing budget to be able to get players according to the needs of the team. As a former player who was appointed as a coach, I think Daniele De Rossi can be considered successful in his first season at Roma. Daniele De Rossi managed to record 6 losses and 6 draws and 14 wins in 26 matches at Roma in his first season. These statistics are good for a manager and this success is marked by Roma qualifying for the Europa League next season. So far I have not considered Daniele De Rossi as a coach who might be able to compete for the Serie A title next season. He has to get a lot of good challenges as a coach because we all know that Roma's performance has been very unstable in the last many seasons. Daniele De Rossi certainly has a chance to bring success to Roma, but I don't think his chances are any better. Here are the statistics for the 2023-2024 season: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co.com%2FW0rd0LW%2FStatistic-de-rossi.jpg&t=665&c=OLEHj7EwMbIz0A)
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June 11, 2024, 09:37:38 PM |
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The financial problems of clubs in Serie A rarely receive coverage in the sports news media. Even though there are several clubs that have even been on the verge of bankruptcy several times, fortunately these clubs always managed to improve their situation and did not go bankrupt. even though their financial problems are still not resolved. But still I might appreciate every club in Serie A. Because even though the clubs in Serie A don't spend as much as other clubs in other leagues. But in Serie A clubs I see that these clubs can bring out the maximum potential of a player they bring in. So many players come to Serie A as ordinary players. But after several seasons playing in Serie A he turned into a player who was in great demand by other clubs from other leagues. And maybe in the next few seasons we will be able to see Serie A clubs starting to dominate more in the UCL. Only a few clubs in Serie A have received attention from the big media because the focus of the big media's attention so far has only been on the English League and Spanish League teams. Strong teams in the Italian league often have real problems, be it financial problems or player transfer problems, even the worst a few years ago was the problem of match fixing, often teams from the Italian league are called dark horses because they always win unexpectedly in international leagues such as Atalanta, for example, they succeeded in becoming UEL champions, beating Leverkusen.
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June 11, 2024, 09:45:44 PM |
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Guys, any opinion about the performance of Roma?
I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that.
As a whole season maybe nothing has changed from Roma because they are even in the same position as last season but when talking about performance and the transition of a new coach then indeed we can see a little difference where it is realized or not with the current De Rosi Roma become a little better and can still maintain its position in the Europa League zone when there is a bad condition when handled by Mou before. Roma in the Mou Era this season are not very good even they are in the middle standings which makes the situation more complicated but when there is De Rosi they improve a little by managing to get back to the same position as the previous season. Although this looks not much different but when Roma still retains Mou in the end it could be that something like this does not happen and Roma will remain in its position which is not very favorable in the middle table so this is what might be a consideration that Roma is a little better.
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June 11, 2024, 11:07:22 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F3R3G578%2Fucl.jpg&t=665&c=t17OKD_Umjxt2w) Did anyone realize that the competition in Serie A has not been up to the mark? By that, I mean almost all of the teams in this league have just not been good enough in the Champions League competition. The last time any Italian team was able to win the Champions League competition was back in the 2009-10 season if I recall correctly. And it was Inter who won the Champions League. After that, I do not remember any team from the Italian league actually winning the Champions League title. Are the teams in the Serie A has just become that bad? I know recently a lot of Italian teams have been facing some legal problems with their players, their coaches, and even their owners. Are these the reasons why they have not been able to do well in the Champions League competition? That is definitely a factor if you ask me. It also does not seem like any team from the Italian league will probably win the Champions League competition anytime soon. Source: OlympicsLast season Inter Milan almost succeeded in the Champions League. And the Italian teams even managed to dominate as the clubs that made the most of the quarter-finals and semi-finals in the previous season in the UCL. but unfortunately that doesn't happen this season. Even teams from Italy also had to fall early. So there has indeed been a clear setback this season. and in the last few seasons. But this problem is actually also reflected in the finances of the Italian clubs themselves. Maybe it's rarely reported, but in fact many Italian clubs have been facing financial problems for a long time. So this can also be seen in the player transfer market where Italian clubs are no longer the clubs that are the bravest in making high offers. High offers always come from clubs from other leagues. So in my opinion the problem is financial itself. That's one of them and maybe there are other problems too, like there are a lot of sanctions or something like that there. Inter Milan performance in Champion League on season 2023 is very impressive because they can surprising many people by advances to the final match but unfortunately at that time Inter Milan have to lost from Manchester City and failed to gets the trophy and this season Inter Milan performance in this competition is not quite good because they only able to reach to round of 16 and dramatically lost from Atletico Madrid and this result is a major concern for Inzaghi because next season he want Inter Milan can performing better and reach at least the quarterfinals so that's why Inzaghi will attempts to do his best to achieve that target On the other hand if we talking about the financial crisis in Serie A we all know since several years ago the financial conditions of Serie A clubs is not really good even most of big clubs in this competition such as Juventus, Inter Milan and AS Roma has been admitting that they currently have a problem to buy the players with expensive price because they have limited budget for every season so this also caused why there was no more saga transfer from Serie A clubs because almost all of the clubs from this competitions has financial crisis and this also makes the popularity of Serie A decreased and below to Premier League or Laliga
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June 11, 2024, 11:22:54 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.postimg.cc%2Fc4GrhJ2Q%2Fkagwlag.png&t=665&c=ldDyp-ajlumzJQ) The last time italian club won UCL was more than a decade ago. WikiLa Liga owns the majority of the UCL trophy because Real Madrid has consistently won it. Real madrid is owning 15 tropohies alone combined with barcelona. It would be different if Madrid were not in La Liga. Madrid has carried la liga to win so many UCL titles. Serie A was not a horrible team, especially since they may still advance to the UCL final. The only main problem if any serie a clubs were qualifying to the final was not able making a proper finishing. It has made club bottled the trophy The main problem is that they lack a winning mentality. You can see from how intermilan has bottled it last seasons. It can be seen from how Intermilan failed in the 2022/2023 final versus Manchester City. They presently hold 5 UCL places now. It enhances the likelihood that Italian teams will remain in the UCL for an extended period but it must be noted that if it doesn't guarantee italian club to have greater chance in winning UCL. King is back now. Real madrid is ready to break its 3 times UCL winners in a row. One team from another league winning the Champions League title a lot of times, or even both Real Madrid and Barcelona winning the Champions League title a lot of times does not make my argument weak that the performance from the teams of the Italian league has really not been great in the champions league. Sure they have been in the finals but they were not able to win it though. Being second is just not enough. Let's always remember that Italy has always been well present in the Champions League, now we have the overwhelming power of the Spanish in recent years, but let's also remember that when Real Madrid were Galacticos there were teams like Milan, Juve and Inter who have always been imposed on these great teams and they have sometimes achieved great results, so we can expect anything and the great teams do not always manage to win what they set their minds to winning, football is beautiful for this reason
I don’t understand why this is so hard to grasp. Being present in a competition does not mean that you are doing great in that competition. A lot of countries play in the World Cup. That does not mean that they all have done well in the World Cup. In the end there is one winner who is able to win the trophy. And that is the ultimate glory. I am not saying that the teams from the Italian league will not be able to win the Champions League anytime soon. all I am saying is that they have not been able to do it for quite some time now. The possibility of that happening in recent future is also pretty questionable.
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June 11, 2024, 11:31:50 PM |
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F3R3G578%2Fucl.jpg&t=665&c=t17OKD_Umjxt2w) Did anyone realize that the competition in Serie A has not been up to the mark? By that, I mean almost all of the teams in this league have just not been good enough in the Champions League competition. The last time any Italian team was able to win the Champions League competition was back in the 2009-10 season if I recall correctly. And it was Inter who won the Champions League. After that, I do not remember any team from the Italian league actually winning the Champions League title. Are the teams in the Serie A has just become that bad? I know recently a lot of Italian teams have been facing some legal problems with their players, their coaches, and even their owners. Are these the reasons why they have not been able to do well in the Champions League competition? That is definitely a factor if you ask me. It also does not seem like any team from the Italian league will probably win the Champions League competition anytime soon. Source: OlympicsLast season Inter Milan almost succeeded in the Champions League. And the Italian teams even managed to dominate as the clubs that made the most of the quarter-finals and semi-finals in the previous season in the UCL. but unfortunately that doesn't happen this season. Even teams from Italy also had to fall early. So there has indeed been a clear setback this season. and in the last few seasons. But this problem is actually also reflected in the finances of the Italian clubs themselves. Maybe it's rarely reported, but in fact many Italian clubs have been facing financial problems for a long time. So this can also be seen in the player transfer market where Italian clubs are no longer the clubs that are the bravest in making high offers. High offers always come from clubs from other leagues. So in my opinion the problem is financial itself. That's one of them and maybe there are other problems too, like there are a lot of sanctions or something like that there. The good thing about Inter Milan is they will always try to do their best to have better performance in the Serie A because of having a more stable team. In fact, Inter Milan can have more chance in the next season by doing this. Recently they extended the contract of their player, Nicolò Barella until 2029 since he had a good player they decided to keep him for a long time and now Nicolò Barella gets a salary more than any player in Serie A. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F06%2F11%2FcVoqj.jpeg&t=665&c=FbCcBrNUg3dP0Q)
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![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FFsK7G4F%2Fdaniele-de-rossi-as-roma-2023-24-1710167869-131452.jpg&t=665&c=_R_zFCkrP1o52A) 'Made us grow' - Leandro Paredes aims subtle dig at Jose Mourinho as Roma midfielder claims Daniele De Rossi's style 'suits the team better' ahead of Europa League semi-final clash with Bayer Leverkusen Leandro Paredes says Daniele De Rossi has made Roma "grow" as his "style suits the team better", in a subtle dig at Jose Mourinho. Source: https://www.goal.com/en-in/lists/leandro-paredes-dig-jose-mourinho-roma-daniele-de-rossi-style-europa-league-semi-final-bayer-leverkusen/blt1fb90cfc1f4b546dGuys, any opinion about the performance of Roma? I clearly do not see any improvement in their performance. but maybe I am just speaking a little too early. Maybe there is a chance that they will be able to bring in better results in the next season. it has not been even a whole season that they have brought in Daniele De Rossi. maybe with time, De Rossi will be able to improve the results. But at this moment I highly doubt that. You know, De Rossi is going to need a lot of money to actually bring in good results and compete for the title. at this moment I do not see a huge stream of money coming into the Roma club. do I think that it was a very big mistake that they have actually fired Jose Mourinho? probably not a very big mistake. but at the same time do I think that they should have gotten a better coach? yes absolutely. unless they actually finish in the top four positions in the next season I am not going to call another European League position finish " an improvement". Maybe Roma management thinks that the club don't have a problem but thinks Mourinho was a problematic coach, but right now we have seen that Mourinho was not the problem but the club, because the don't want to spend money in order to put the club in the standard that they want. This was why they decided to fire Mourinho thinking that without quality players and coach, the club will be able to achieve a good result and qualify to UCL next season. It turned out the De Rossi was able to win some matches when he started but towards the ending when the competitions got fierce, De Rossi was unable to overcime the pressures and couldn't win important matches. I hope next season will speak well for De Rossi that he is a good replacement to Mourinho. Mourinho was perplexing when he was at Roma because mou's request never be fulfilled by the management. This resulted from management's failure to satisfy his request. Roma is too stingy to invest money on new players. This is why Roma sacked Mourinho. He was grumbling about how the club did not offer him transfer allowances to choose which player he would recruit. I regarded it as Mourinho's biggest problem. That is why Mou has been replaced by a guy who can be dictated to, such as Rossi now. It's extremely rare to uncover news about Roma attempting to buy a player. This means that Roma may not invest during the summer transfer season. No doubt that this club was always a mediocre club. If Rossi does not progress to strengthening roma's squad this time, they will have a difficult time competing in numerous contests. Roma has poor defense and midfielders. Roma appears unlikely to win the Europa League title next season.
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As a former player who was appointed as a coach, I think Daniele De Rossi can be considered successful in his first season at Roma. Daniele De Rossi managed to record 6 losses and 6 draws and 14 wins in 26 matches at Roma in his first season. These statistics are good for a manager and this success is marked by Roma qualifying for the Europa League next season.
I agree with you. Daniele De Rossi is quite successful although Roma position in Serie A standings was still in 6th place. De Rossi could improve the position of AS Roma to 6th place at least. Before he managed Roma, AS Roma wasn't in 6th place. As far as I know, AS Roma was struggling to stay in the top 8 before De Rossi became the coach. AS Roma was lucky that De Rossi could improve the performance of AS Roma quite fast. With the lack of experience as a coach, his achievement with AS Roma in this season is quite satisfyingly. I still remember many people underestimated him when he was selected to be the replacement of Mourinho. Yes, the stats looks good. He could win 14 matches in 26 matches. He actually can make better stats, if AS Roma didn't lose focus in the final 5 matches of this season. However, it is not too bad because AS Roma still can finish in Europa league zone at least. De Rossi can have another chance to finish the season in a better position in the next season. I really expect AS Roma to return into the top 5. If Rossi does not progress to strengthening roma's squad this time, they will have a difficult time competing in numerous contests. Roma has poor defense and midfielders.
Of course, De Rossi must improve the quality of AS Roma squad. Midfield line is the worse line of AS Roma, there should be some new players in this line. AS Roma midfielders are lack of creativity, they also are less unified both in defense and attack. Even if AS Roma has good attackers, they can't play optimally if they aren't supported by good midfielders. Source: whoscored
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June 12, 2024, 05:06:20 AM |
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Only a few clubs in Serie A have received attention from the big media because the focus of the big media's attention so far has only been on the English League and Spanish League teams. Strong teams in the Italian league often have real problems, be it financial problems or player transfer problems, even the worst a few years ago was the problem of match fixing, often teams from the Italian league are called dark horses because they always win unexpectedly in international leagues such as Atalanta, for example, they succeeded in becoming UEL champions, beating Leverkusen.
Yes even though Serie A clubs are no less competitive than the English League and Spanish League, even Serie A clubs cannot be underestimated in international tournaments. In fact, in the last 2 seasons, Serie A clubs have played well in international tournaments, even though some of them have not succeeded in bringing home the title. as prestigious as when Inter Milan won second place in the Champions League in the previous season and Roma also won second place in the Europa League, and even this season Atalanta won the Europa League title, which means Serie A clubs are quite competitive but rarely anyone favors Serie A clubs and the media also rarely covers news about Serie A clubs. In fact, if the media also covered news about Serie A club news, it would also be more interesting because Serie A is also a competitive club and is no less than the English League and Spanish League. Perhaps their financial system is not as much as the English League or Spanish League so the media feels less interested, but even so I am still interested in Serie A clubs. This league has adequate performance. Even though they are quite behind in popularity from the English League and Spanish League, it cannot be denied that their performance is almost equal.
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