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September 24, 2022, 01:46:40 PM
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I don't know how we analyse football and why different people analyse it in different ways. I can confidently tell you that MANE has no problem adapting with the Bayern team. Mane has got some goals in Bayern, I think he got a goal in his debut also. Someone who hasn't adapt with his new club should not get a goal or just 1 goal.
Mane is a very good player and yes Bayern Munich was not wrong to buy Mane and bring him into the Bayern team this season, although there are some people who might analyze Mane in a different way, but I think what you say is true that Mane is adapting very well and has also managed to score several goals in his debut season with his new team, Bayern Munich.

The problem Bayer Munich are facing is not having a favourable football formation,  the coach needs to work on it.  Bayern Munich started very well for the season. Mane played like who was already used to the league, we all saw mane efforts in contributing for the team to win  most of their games. Now that the team is going through this difficult challenge I think it is the duty of the coach to work on the team .  Mane is still a good signing for Bayern  Munich.

Four straight fixtures without a win is embarrassing for a team that still wants to win the German bundesliga title once again. I was a bit worried when I saw Thomas Tuchel linked to Bayern Munich.
If not for the news and updates from Olivier Kahn, I was about concluding that tue current Manager would be replaced by the club, he had bad decisions that lead to Bayern Munich been knocked out of thr Champions League by Villarreal.
Sadio Mane shouldn't be taken for granted, they should start passing enough balls to him. Something's we see on the pitch with our eyes but the media won't say it.

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September 24, 2022, 02:01:28 PM
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Actually Bayern Munich were quite productive at the beginning of the season. So this made me think that they wouldn't have big problems in the league at least. But suddenly they started to have scoring problems here as well. In their last four matches they barely scored more than one goal in only one match. First we thought that it was because of caring about the Champions League more. But I believe this is too much. They are also aware of the serious problem they are having. They can't go on like this for a long time in the Champions League also. Maybe they would get past the group stage easily but the next stages would be much more difficult.
At the moment Bayern are not in a good condition, they are very good in form and ball possession but in terms of goal productivity they are not so good now given the absence of a suitable targetman and Mane is often combing the field rather than being a target.
They need new innovation now, relying on Mane and Sane at the moment is not very profitable for them. Nagelsmann must be racking his brains now because otherwise I could probably say it's going to get worse.

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September 24, 2022, 02:38:07 PM
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Four straight fixtures without a win is embarrassing for a team that still wants to win the German bundesliga title once again. I was a bit worried when I saw Thomas Tuchel linked to Bayern Munich.
If not for the news and updates from Olivier Kahn, I was about concluding that tue current Manager would be replaced by the club, he had bad decisions that lead to Bayern Munich been knocked out of thr Champions League by Villarreal.
Sadio Mane shouldn't be taken for granted, they should start passing enough balls to him. Something's we see on the pitch with our eyes but the media won't say it.
Honestly, even though I saw Bayern Munich winless in 4 matches in a row but I still really believe in them to win this season. They are only 5 points adrift now from the leaders. And in the Bundesliga it's not that far away, moreover they still have a lot of games left. Game-wise, Bayern Munich have not lost their mark, but they only have problems in finishing, and their defense looks more fragile.

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September 24, 2022, 03:12:36 PM
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Four straight fixtures without a win is embarrassing for a team that still wants to win the German bundesliga title once again. I was a bit worried when I saw Thomas Tuchel linked to Bayern Munich.
If not for the news and updates from Olivier Kahn, I was about concluding that tue current Manager would be replaced by the club, he had bad decisions that lead to Bayern Munich been knocked out of thr Champions League by Villarreal.
Sadio Mane shouldn't be taken for granted, they should start passing enough balls to him. Something's we see on the pitch with our eyes but the media won't say it.
Honestly, even though I saw Bayern Munich winless in 4 matches in a row but I still really believe in them to win this season. They are only 5 points adrift now from the leaders. And in the Bundesliga it's not that far away, moreover they still have a lot of games left. Game-wise, Bayern Munich have not lost their mark, but they only have problems in finishing, and their defense looks more fragile.
I also think so, even though now Bayern are not in good form but I believe they will be able to rise and win the Bundesliga again this season it's all inseparable from the quality of the players they have, Bayern's squad is still very good compared to other Bundesliga teams, Bayern have an even squad in all lines.
it is still early in the season and Bayern are not too far behind.

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September 24, 2022, 04:14:51 PM
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Bayern Munich's current condition is really worrying. Honestly I'd like to see a different team winning the Bundesliga title finally after a ten-year break.  Grin  But it is still very interesting to see them in this shape of course. They are having big difficulties in even the games against much weaker teams in the league. For example most of us waited for them to put an end to their streak with point losses. But they couldn't even defeat Augsburg and lost that one.

Actually Bayern Munich were quite productive at the beginning of the season. So this made me think that they wouldn't have big problems in the league at least. But suddenly they started to have scoring problems here as well. In their last four matches they barely scored more than one goal in only one match. First we thought that it was because of caring about the Champions League more. But I believe this is too much. They are also aware of the serious problem they are having. They can't go on like this for a long time in the Champions League also. Maybe they would get past the group stage easily but the next stages would be much more difficult.
It's too early to claim Bayern Munich are out of the way of champions this season after showing inconsistent form in several matches in the Bundesliga. Left 5 points from settle first standing position awhile with Union Berlin, I think not bigger problem for Bayern  Munich because still running for many match later in Bundesliga. Usually when almost ended on first half season we can see inconsistent performance for team success lead top standing position right now.

Don't worry with bad result with 3 won, 3 draw and 1 loss from Bayern Munich in last 7 games because journey to be Bundesliga champion still long and left many games. I think Bayern Munich wake up on next match and back to race on top standing position with Union Berlin, however with bad result on Bundesliga, Bayern Munich still dominance in UEFA Champion League and defeated Barcelona last match become great capital motivate for next match on Bundesliga.

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September 24, 2022, 04:46:46 PM
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Yes, that Sadio Mane has problems adapting to Bayern Munich, that Liverpool now have some problems with results without Sadio Mane. Undoubtedly, in the previous case, both the team and the player got used to each other perfectly and it will take some time for Mane to be able to integrate into a new mechanism for himself with the same efficiency as it happened in England and Liverpool and Bayern with its class of players gives hope that it will not take much time. Let's not forget that Bayern also have some problems with the results after Robert Lewandowski's departure, so this is a mutual process. When all this happens, we will again see that car that no one is able to stop, at least in Germany.

Yup! both Bayern and Liverpool will surely have problems in dealing with integrating their play for Bayern Munich without Robert Lewandowski but with Sadio Mane, and Liverpool without Sadio Mane, and this could surely take some time, many think that Sadio Mane has already coup up to the teams gameplay, but on the following games both are showing problems and not only Sadio Mane but the whole team are having troubles in getting their play on the go because Sadio Mane right now is very prone to mistakes,

To be honest in this case Nagelsmann is still good enough for a coach but the scheme he plays is always the same and it is clear when he has met many times and has experienced this the other team will get a glimmer of hope because his scheme has been read and it has been proven in the last few matches.
If indeed he still wants to be at Bayern he obviously needs more effort in this regard because otherwise the word "failed coach" will be repeated and he will have to leave even before his contract expires.

He surely is a good coach, but if his play tactics don't work anymore then he surely needs to change it and let the team play at their own position that they are used to playing, you can not force Sadio Mane into a position that he is not very familiar with, it works on the 1st game, then why isn't working on the later games, I think Nagelsmann is questioning Sadio Mane this, but Sadio Mane has a tendency that he of making mistakes when he is not very familiar with his plays,


I would not say that Nagels is incompetent. In this case, he doesn't put the players and what the players want. as with what you said, after all Nagels is the boss at bayern munich.

like it or not, the players must be able to professionally follow Nagelsmann's instructions. and if the strategy doesn't go according to plan, I think Nagels has figured out what the squad is missing.
After all, this difficult situation is the first situation for Nagelsmann during his tenure in charge of Bayern Munich, for the past year.

As for Sadio Mane, no one doubts Mane on the pitch. he is one of the top players who is shining, but his presence in the Die Bayern squad has not been able to show a brilliant performance.

Well maybe he is not incompetent but forcing a player to do his bidding but with no effectiveness, I really think that the team itself has a problem as well  and not because of getting outclass by their opponent,
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September 24, 2022, 05:36:02 PM
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Four straight fixtures without a win is embarrassing for a team that still wants to win the German bundesliga title once again. I was a bit worried when I saw Thomas Tuchel linked to Bayern Munich.
If not for the news and updates from Olivier Kahn, I was about concluding that tue current Manager would be replaced by the club, he had bad decisions that lead to Bayern Munich been knocked out of thr Champions League by Villarreal.
Sadio Mane shouldn't be taken for granted, they should start passing enough balls to him. Something's we see on the pitch with our eyes but the media won't say it.
Honestly, even though I saw Bayern Munich winless in 4 matches in a row but I still really believe in them to win this season. They are only 5 points adrift now from the leaders. And in the Bundesliga it's not that far away, moreover they still have a lot of games left. Game-wise, Bayern Munich have not lost their mark, but they only have problems in finishing, and their defense looks more fragile.
I also think so, even though now Bayern are not in good form but I believe they will be able to rise and win the Bundesliga again this season it's all inseparable from the quality of the players they have, Bayern's squad is still very good compared to other Bundesliga teams, Bayern have an even squad in all lines.
it is still early in the season and Bayern are not too far behind.

Compared to other teams in the Bundesliga, Bayern Munich is still the strongest team. Although they performed poorly in a few matches, they probably focused more on the Champions League matches and therefore lost points in the Bundesliga matches. I think they will get back on track in the Bundesliga very quickly. And will continue their winning streak.
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September 24, 2022, 05:44:44 PM
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It's too early to say that Mane's move was a mistake. Firstly, I see that many analysts have complaints about Nagelsman, and this is logical - if a team plays according to a scheme that does not correspond to the current line-up, then this is not the fault of the players in not the best results.
Its not always the fault of the coach when the players dosnt bring the performance on the field , mostly and in case of Bayern Munich i guess its lot of games they have now.
And also maybe the rotation in the team , the defenders also dont playing every game together and so comes some problems when they get under pressure.
Lets look what the German players doing today against Hungary.

But I think there is definitely some part of Nagelsmann's fault in the current results. Last year, Manchester City, playing without a clearly defined center forward, won the Premier League. With the departure of Lewandowski, Bayern found themselves in a similar situation and, judging by the results, the head coach has not yet been able to adapt the team to new realities. Bayern have a great line-up, they just need to find an effective system of play.
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The problem Bayer Munich are facing is not having a favourable football formation,  the coach needs to work on it.  Bayern Munich started very well for the season. Mane played like who was already used to the league, we all saw mane efforts in contributing for the team to win  most of their games. Now that the team is going through this difficult challenge I think it is the duty of the coach to work on the team .  Mane is still a good signing for Bayern  Munich.
Tell me one german coach that is doing well now, even the national team coach is not performing. I dont know if it is a spell

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September 24, 2022, 06:11:56 PM
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It's too early to say that Mane's move was a mistake. Firstly, I see that many analysts have complaints about Nagelsman, and this is logical - if a team plays according to a scheme that does not correspond to the current line-up, then this is not the fault of the players in not the best results.
Its not always the fault of the coach when the players dosnt bring the performance on the field , mostly and in case of Bayern Munich i guess its lot of games they have now.
And also maybe the rotation in the team , the defenders also dont playing every game together and so comes some problems when they get under pressure.
Lets look what the German players doing today against Hungary.
But I think there is definitely some part of Nagelsmann's fault in the current results. Last year, Manchester City, playing without a clearly defined center forward, won the Premier League. With the departure of Lewandowski, Bayern found themselves in a similar situation and, judging by the results, the head coach has not yet been able to adapt the team to new realities. Bayern have a great line-up, they just need to find an effective system of play.

Lewandowski has been with Bayern Munich for a long time. So Nagelsmann is yet to stabilize the team due to his sudden departure. But it is certainly Nagelsmann's fault that he did not produce a worthy replacement for Lewandowski. If he had found a suitable replacement for Lewandowski, Bayern Munich's performance would not have been so unstable.
Sadio Mane will never be a worthy replacement for Lewandowski. Nagelsmann should now look for an experienced striker who can score goals regularly. Munich has a fantastic squad. But they lack experienced finishers.

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September 24, 2022, 06:51:20 PM
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To be honest in this case Nagelsmann is still good enough for a coach but the scheme he plays is always the same and it is clear when he has met many times and has experienced this the other team will get a glimmer of hope because his scheme has been read and it has been proven in the last few matches.
If indeed he still wants to be at Bayern he obviously needs more effort in this regard because otherwise the word "failed coach" will be repeated and he will have to leave even before his contract expires.
He surely is a good coach, but if his play tactics don't work anymore then he surely needs to change it and let the team play at their own position that they are used to playing, you can not force Sadio Mane into a position that he is not very familiar with, it works on the 1st game, then why isn't working on the later games, I think Nagelsmann is questioning Sadio Mane this, but Sadio Mane has a tendency that he of making mistakes when he is not very familiar with his plays,

I have never seen Sadio Mane playing the main striker role. And he is not able to score a lot of goals and assists. If Nagelsmann wants to use Mane to score a lot of goals then I'd say it's foolish of him. Nagelsmann should either change his match tactics or look for a new striker. Otherwise, Bayern Munich's performance will not improve.

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September 24, 2022, 07:28:38 PM
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Bayern Munich's current condition is really worrying. Honestly I'd like to see a different team winning the Bundesliga title finally after a ten-year break.  Grin  But it is still very interesting to see them in this shape of course. They are having big difficulties in even the games against much weaker teams in the league. For example most of us waited for them to put an end to their streak with point losses. But they couldn't even defeat Augsburg and lost that one.

Actually Bayern Munich were quite productive at the beginning of the season. So this made me think that they wouldn't have big problems in the league at least. But suddenly they started to have scoring problems here as well. In their last four matches they barely scored more than one goal in only one match. First we thought that it was because of caring about the Champions League more. But I believe this is too much. They are also aware of the serious problem they are having. They can't go on like this for a long time in the Champions League also. Maybe they would get past the group stage easily but the next stages would be much more difficult.

If by some miracle (which I don't believe in) some other club, and not Bayern, becomes the champion, then most likely the reason will be declared (by Bayern fans) a broken season (due to the World Cup). I would like to see some club outperform Bayern undeniably, obviously this season is not the right place for that. As for the Champions League, the prospects for Bayern do not look bright, Nagelsmann should now take measures to correct the generally weak game of Bayern (then it will be too late).

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September 24, 2022, 08:14:25 PM
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Bayern Munich's current condition is really worrying. Honestly I'd like to see a different team winning the Bundesliga title finally after a ten-year break.  Grin  But it is still very interesting to see them in this shape of course. They are having big difficulties in even the games against much weaker teams in the league. For example most of us waited for them to put an end to their streak with point losses. But they couldn't even defeat Augsburg and lost that one.

The poor performance of Bayern Munich didn't come to me as a shock, I saw it coming and I was saying the Bayern isn't that super human team.they used to be, but I was disregarded. But it is fine as it has played out for everyone to  notice.
There is enough time and opportunity for Bayern to get it right on the long run but for now let us enjoy seeing them as an ordinary club. Despite that I complain, but deep down me, I don't want Bayer to win this season's Bundesliga title. Let the streak end.

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September 24, 2022, 08:18:33 PM
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Bayern Munich's current condition is really worrying. Honestly I'd like to see a different team winning the Bundesliga title finally after a ten-year break.  Grin  But it is still very interesting to see them in this shape of course. They are having big difficulties in even the games against much weaker teams in the league. For example most of us waited for them to put an end to their streak with point losses. But they couldn't even defeat Augsburg and lost that one.

The poor performance of Bayern Munich didn't come to me as a shock, I saw it coming and I was saying the Bayern isn't that super human team.they used to be, but I was disregarded. But it is fine as it has played out for everyone to  notice.
There is enough time and opportunity for Bayern to get it right on the long run but for now let us enjoy seeing them as an ordinary club. Despite that I complain, but deep down me, I don't want Bayer to win this season's Bundesliga title. Let the streak end.

I really think that they have superstar team they only played a few bad games and everyone thinks they are done for. You will all see in a couple of weeks that they will be back on top of the league. Their style is so attacking their only problem is that they just cannot score lately and that will come when they pick up their form
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September 24, 2022, 09:28:27 PM
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To be honest in this case Nagelsmann is still good enough for a coach but the scheme he plays is always the same and it is clear when he has met many times and has experienced this the other team will get a glimmer of hope because his scheme has been read and it has been proven in the last few matches.
If indeed he still wants to be at Bayern he obviously needs more effort in this regard because otherwise the word "failed coach" will be repeated and he will have to leave even before his contract expires.
He surely is a good coach, but if his play tactics don't work anymore then he surely needs to change it and let the team play at their own position that they are used to playing, you can not force Sadio Mane into a position that he is not very familiar with, it works on the 1st game, then why isn't working on the later games, I think Nagelsmann is questioning Sadio Mane this, but Sadio Mane has a tendency that he of making mistakes when he is not very familiar with his plays,

As far as I'm concerned, Nagelsmann was not accused of being a bad coach while Robert Lewandowski was a member of the team. After Lewandowski left the club, this rumor of him being sacked only grew stronger and stronger. There seems to be a connection to be made here, so I think we are on the right track.

It is indisputably true that Lewandowski was their best player and their main scoring machine, and he was the man behind it all. The fact that he has left, even though Bayern has bought Mane, does not make him a lethal striker like Lewa was. As a result, I think changing the coach would not mean anything if they are not able to sign a striker who is effective.

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September 24, 2022, 09:31:01 PM
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Actually Bayern Munich were quite productive at the beginning of the season. So this made me think that they wouldn't have big problems in the league at least. But suddenly they started to have scoring problems here as well. In their last four matches they barely scored more than one goal in only one match. First we thought that it was because of caring about the Champions League more. But I believe this is too much. They are also aware of the serious problem they are having. They can't go on like this for a long time in the Champions League also. Maybe they would get past the group stage easily but the next stages would be much more difficult.
At the moment Bayern are not in a good condition, they are very good in form and ball possession but in terms of goal productivity they are not so good now given the absence of a suitable targetman and Mane is often combing the field rather than being a target.
They need new innovation now, relying on Mane and Sane at the moment is not very profitable for them. Nagelsmann must be racking his brains now because otherwise I could probably say it's going to get worse.
I feel like they will eventually find a way, look at Klopp and how he never truly had a proper striker and still found a way to score and have wins, he didn't had mbappehaal and lewandowskibenzema type of players, those are true strikers and that's understandable but at the same time you could build a system that is without them and you could still score.

Bayern was too used to having one, so they are having trouble but Mane could help the team see how they could play without a proper striker and still win games. It's not going to take long neither, before the end of the first half of the season they are going to look like the great team they always are.

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September 24, 2022, 10:15:06 PM
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To be honest in this case Nagelsmann is still good enough for a coach but the scheme he plays is always the same and it is clear when he has met many times and has experienced this the other team will get a glimmer of hope because his scheme has been read and it has been proven in the last few matches.
If indeed he still wants to be at Bayern he obviously needs more effort in this regard because otherwise the word "failed coach" will be repeated and he will have to leave even before his contract expires.
If he can make Bayern win the Bundesliga last season,means he still is a good coach who just needs to change tactics from the present one he uses,if the one he uses currently is no longer working,he also needs to check what the problem really is and how to address it.One Quality of a good coach is the ability to change formation,tactics and method of play, if the former is becoming easy for your opponents to access.Changing tactics will enable them play in a way that the opponents will find it difficult to read.He should still be giving more time to change formations and see whether it would work for him or not.
The problem now is trust, we know with the current conditions it is clear that the trust in Nagelsmann has decreased a bit whether it is from club officials or fans so that he cannot sit quietly now.
It would be great if he could change tactics, but at the moment it is a bit difficult because while they are still like this it is clear that stories like Tuchel or Tedesco will repeat themselves in Nagelsmann.

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September 24, 2022, 10:18:02 PM
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if you want to have the same strength/level in the striker, as was the case with Robert Lewandowski, you can't solve that with a 19 year old player (Jamal Musiala) or with Mane (who is actually not a real striker).
you need to hire a world-class striker who can score goals immediately (see E. Haaland at man city or R. Lewandowski now at barcelona).

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Jamal Musiala needs time because he is still very young and obviously experience is still very much needed for these young players. As for Mane, I think the same because he is actually not very suitable to be placed in the target man because obviously he is a player with high cruising range and his function is to mess up the opponent's defense so Bayern need someone who can be a targetman like Lewandowski has done before.

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Despite that I complain, but deep down me, I don't want Bayer to win this season's Bundesliga title. Let the streak end.
I am with you on that, though i do not support any particular team in the Bundesliga, but i do not like it when one team dominates a league for too many years. Just like what happened in Italy, i was very happy when Juventus lost grips of the Italian seria a title, and now any team can win it, that is what i hope to happen in the Bundesliga from this season, now that bayern are not in their best rhythm, it is the right time for the other good teams around them to step up and challenge seriously for the title.

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my claim is that the worse or less convincing bayern munich plays forward, the louder the call for a new top/world class striker. and since there were already rumors about Harry Kane (tottenham) this summer, i see him as the number #1 bayern would be interested in.
They have to spend Extra money for this player.
Apart from his contract which is still quite long, Kane is also now starting to recover the form he lost last season so I think Conte will hold on to this hard.
But if you look at Bayern's current condition, it's clear they need a new striker. At the moment Bayern's condition is not very good although I really like things like this but it's clear the top brass will find new ways to get their performance back to their original shape and of course new strikers are needed to maintain their current hegemony.

They won't be able to get new strikers until the winter, during the transfer window. As much as they are giving up their positions now, but so far so good, except for the striker position. The only hope now is that they just make it to this transfer window and not fall even lower in the table. It's been a long time since I've seen Bayern this low...
I think that people know about that a bit surprised that there are some people are expecting bayern to get a new striker even when the transfer season already close. peoople must aware if this time bayern can't do something about that.
It can only use the resources that owned by the team. Buying striker will be only wasting the money when the player that already bought can't play caused by it's not on the transfer season.

Well, then Bayern has nothing to do but "tolerate the current state of affairs. In the end maybe the monopoly (I would call it that) in the German league will finally end and someone else will take the championship title. To be honest I have absolutely no interest in this league because of the fact that Bayern has won the championship for 10 years in a row

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