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July 16, 2022, 11:30:47 PM
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I've read that Bayern munich is trying to sign in Mattias De ligt from Juve for the next year for a sum of 80 m€  Shocked
I think that it is really ridicolous considering that De light is not so strong, in juventus he hasn't made some good things, hope that Bayern will not buy him, it would be a waste of money in my opinion.
De ligt is a young player with potential so it's natural that the price is so expensive, but I don't think that Bayern Munich will sign him because from the beginning Bayern teams rarely buy expensive players they tend to buy potential players at cheap prices.
This is just a rumor, because De Ligt doesn't feel at home with Juventus anymore, so he has been associated with several other teams. in fact now De ligt is very close to Chelsea.

Bayern Munich obviously wants this player badly but there is no way that de Ligt is worth 80 million. I know that a lot of potential players are worth close to hundred million nowadays, and the amount of money that a club can get, a hundred million is not too much in this Era but I think it is quite a lot of money for a Defender. If the deal is finalized in 80 million total, I will not have any problems, to be honest. But I don't think that really is going to be finalized in 80 million. Bayern Munich will have to spend more than 80 million to get this player.

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July 16, 2022, 11:36:34 PM
Last edit: July 17, 2022, 09:45:33 AM by Dewi Aries
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I've read that Bayern munich is trying to sign in Mattias De ligt from Juve for the next year for a sum of 80 m€  Shocked
I think that it is really ridicolous considering that De light is not so strong, in juventus he hasn't made some good things, hope that Bayern will not buy him, it would be a waste of money in my opinion.
De ligt is a young player with potential so it's natural that the price is so expensive, but I don't think that Bayern Munich will sign him because from the beginning Bayern teams rarely buy expensive players they tend to buy potential players at cheap prices.
This is just a rumor, because De Ligt doesn't feel at home with Juventus anymore, so he has been associated with several other teams. in fact now De ligt is very close to Chelsea.

Bayern Munich obviously wants this player badly but there is no way that de Ligt is worth 80 million. I know that a lot of potential players are worth close to hundred million nowadays, and the amount of money that a club can get, a hundred million is not too much in this Era but I think it is quite a lot of money for a Defender. If the deal is finalized in 80 million total, I will not have any problems, to be honest. But I don't think that really is going to be finalized in 80 million. Bayern Munich will have to spend more than 80 million to get this player.

I agree with you the price is unreasonable Bayern Munich should be able to get another player for a lower price but with the same ability
But there's no need to rush Bayern Munich must wait for the right moment like Dortmund did find them in teams outside the top league

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July 17, 2022, 03:10:19 AM
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Bayern Munich obviously wants this player badly but there is no way that de Ligt is worth 80 million. I know that a lot of potential players are worth close to hundred million nowadays, and the amount of money that a club can get, a hundred million is not too much in this Era but I think it is quite a lot of money for a Defender. If the deal is finalized in 80 million total, I will not have any problems, to be honest. But I don't think that really is going to be finalized in 80 million. Bayern Munich will have to spend more than 80 million to get this player.

I agree with you the price is unreasonable Bayern Munich should be able to get another player for a lower price but with the same ability
But there's no need to rush Bayern Munich must wait for the right moment
The question is whether Bayern Munich will be willing to pay more than that? I myself believe they can afford it if they have to pay more than 80 million, but I also agree it's a fantastic figure for a defender like you said. But it's back to Bayern Munich if they believe in that value de Ligt can give a game worth what they spend, I don't think that's a problem either.

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July 17, 2022, 03:35:43 AM
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Bayern Munich obviously wants this player badly but there is no way that de Ligt is worth 80 million. I know that a lot of potential players are worth close to hundred million nowadays, and the amount of money that a club can get, a hundred million is not too much in this Era but I think it is quite a lot of money for a Defender. If the deal is finalized in 80 million total, I will not have any problems, to be honest. But I don't think that really is going to be finalized in 80 million. Bayern Munich will have to spend more than 80 million to get this player.

I agree with you the price is unreasonable Bayern Munich should be able to get another player for a lower price but with the same ability
But there's no need to rush Bayern Munich must wait for the right moment
The question is whether Bayern Munich will be willing to pay more than that? I myself believe they can afford it if they have to pay more than 80 million, but I also agree it's a fantastic figure for a defender like you said. But it's back to Bayern Munich if they believe in that value de Ligt can give a game worth what they spend, I don't think that's a problem either.
From one of the news portals that I got, Bayern Munich has made their latest offer for De Ligt. The amount is around 90 million with a combination of cash plus bonuses, I think instead of long and unfinished negotiations and the offer is very close to 100 million, then it seems it would be better for Bayern Munich to immediately follow the wishes of Juventus with 100 million. Unless Bayern Munich have no money and only bid in the range of 50-70 million, then naturally the negotiations will be very long. But even what happens that their offer is very close to the nominal price, then completing the transaction sooner would be better because after all, De Ligt himself really wanted to leave and had agreed to join Bayern Munich.

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July 17, 2022, 08:00:50 AM
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I don't think that Lewandoski will be replaced by Ronaldo, Ronaldo is too old and can't guarantee any kind of future for a team like Bayern, that's why they has bought Mane, at the moment I've starting to understand why

of this move, he will be the future of this team probably, but they also need anyway to enforce his attack, Lewandoski is an outsider and it wouldn't be so easy to replace it.
They have to replace the player, but usually they only have to replace the goals he scored each season. That was +40 goals with all the games. If they can do that with 2 players, then they have reached the goal. I'm glad that is finally done, again and again because of one person. Now at Bayern 2 great players should take over his part and they are also so successful.

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July 17, 2022, 08:18:19 AM
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From one of the news portals that I got, Bayern Munich has made their latest offer for De Ligt. The amount is around 90 million with a combination of cash plus bonuses, I think instead of long and unfinished negotiations and the offer is very close to 100 million, then it seems it would be better for Bayern Munich to immediately follow the wishes of Juventus with 100 million.
90 million is big deal and it is hard to reject for Juventus. However in personal consideration for De Ligt career, I think it will be better for him to move to a big club in Premier League. It is a more competitive league and he can grow more there. He will face with more world class attacking players and it is good for him. In Bayern and Bundesliga, De Ligt will waste bet time of his career to learn and improve himself.

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Unless Bayern Munich have no money and only bid in the range of 50-70 million, then naturally the negotiations will be very long. But even what happens that their offer is very close to the nominal price, then completing the transaction sooner would be better because after all, De Ligt himself really wanted to leave and had agreed to join Bayern Munich.
Bayern are actually serious with De Ligt and their offers show that. I think it is high value in recession and Bayern do see a great potential from De Ligt and plan to use this defender for long. De Ligt can play good as a central defender that is his most favorite position but he can play at left or right position in defense system too. He is like Chiellini in young age.

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July 17, 2022, 09:23:00 AM
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Bayern Munich must be really sad about letting Robert Lewandowski go now. He is joining the Barcelona side very soon as the agreement between the teams has been completed. It is a happy ending for Lewandowski as well because his wish has been playing for Barcelona since their interest in him started. The issues between Lewandowski and Bayern Munich caused this to happen. Bayern Munich will lose a lot of power in the attacking side for sure as Lewandowski has scored most of their goals so far.
I don't think so, because Bayern Munich have already found the replacement they had prepared long before Lewandowski left, namely Sadio Mane. A bit of loss is possible, because Lewandowski has been playing with them for a long time. But even so they will not be long to move on from Robert Lewandowski. I'm sure of that.
I thought of Sadio Mane as Lewandowski's associate. I don't think he can replace Lewandowski. Lewandowski has been with Bayern Munich for a long time. And Lewandowski's understanding of the team's players was very good. It will take time for Mane to do that. Bayern Munich may now try to sign Ronaldo. The pairing of Mane and Ronaldo will make Bayern Munich's forwards stronger.
You can describe Lewandowski as a monster in attack. He is that kind of player that guarantees you at least 25 goals in the league each season. Mane is good and scores goal but cannot guarantee the number of goal Lewandowski can offer each season.  Lewandowski will surely be missed at Bayern Munich for his contributions and even though Mane will not be the perfect replace for Lewandowski,he will surely bring more fire power to the Bayern attack next season.

I totally agree with you. Robert Lewandowski scored 35 goals in 34 games in the Bundesliga last season, and 13 goals in 10 Champions League games. On the other hand, Sadio Mane scored 5 goals in 13 Champions League matches. In the Premier League, he has performed in 34 matches and scored only 16 goals. This is why I don't consider Sadio Mane as a worthy replacement for Robert Lewandowski. Sadio Mane is indeed a very talented player. However, Bayern Munich need more talented strikers if they want to do well in the Champions League.

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July 17, 2022, 10:06:37 AM
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Bayern Munich has been winning the Bundesliga title for the last 10 years. I don’t think any team has given them too much of a problem in the last 10 years of Bayern Munich's dominance. You know, Dortmund won the Bundesliga title in the 2011-2012 season.

But after that, it was all Bayern Munich. And Bayern has also become very strong during these years. Now they basically have no competition in the Bundesliga.

And you are right, Bundesliga does feel like it’s becoming a lot boring because we all know that Bayern is going to win the league title. In the early years, Dortmund did give them a bit of resistance, but now that is no longer the case.

Back when there are no Lewandowski Bayern Munich was a dominant team, but with Robert Lewandowski from that timeline of 2013-14 Robert Lewandowski has been Bayern Munich Top goal scorer, that comes from Borrusia Dortmund, but guess what in the years 2010-11 from the 2009-10 championship the Dortmund attained the Bundesliga Championship, Robert Lewandowski was their biggest asset, that is why on the years 2012-13 when Bayern Munich was champion again, I think Robert Lewandowski doesn't want to play for Borrusia Dortmund anymore, and when Bayern Munich acquired Lewandowski on their team the chain of Bayern Munich to the championship has never been predetermined that if Robert Lewandowski is on the team it was a sure win for Bayern Munich, so what I am saying here is if they don't have Lewandowski anymore do you still think they can be champion next season, Robert Lewandowski is a core to every success of Bayern Munich and now if you will look at this NEWS it is now official that Robert Lewandowski is traded to Barcelona,
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July 17, 2022, 10:36:27 AM
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From one of the news portals that I got, Bayern Munich has made their latest offer for De Ligt. The amount is around 90 million with a combination of cash plus bonuses, I think instead of long and unfinished negotiations and the offer is very close to 100 million, then it seems it would be better for Bayern Munich to immediately follow the wishes of Juventus with 100 million. Unless Bayern Munich have no money and only bid in the range of 50-70 million, then naturally the negotiations will be very long. But even what happens that their offer is very close to the nominal price, then completing the transaction sooner would be better because after all, De Ligt himself really wanted to leave and had agreed to join Bayern Munich.

I would be surprised if that news is true because i highly doubt that Bayern will offer such a high amount of money to Juventus already. The last thing that i heard was that Juventus wants to have the same amount of money for De Ligt that they have paid for him themself, which was 80 Million €. I don't think that Bayern would pay even 1 € more than this 80 Million € but they are probably trying to get him for like 60-70 Million €. I would guess that in the end the price will be at around 80 Million € including all portential bonuses. Bayern will never pay 100 Million €. If Bayern could get De Ligt for 80 Million € then i think it is a good transfer because he is only 22 years old.
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July 17, 2022, 10:47:21 AM
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Bayern Munich must be really sad about letting Robert Lewandowski go now. He is joining the Barcelona side very soon as the agreement between the teams has been completed. It is a happy ending for Lewandowski as well because his wish has been playing for Barcelona since their interest in him started. The issues between Lewandowski and Bayern Munich caused this to happen. Bayern Munich will lose a lot of power in the attacking side for sure as Lewandowski has scored most of their goals so far.
I don't think so, because Bayern Munich have already found the replacement they had prepared long before Lewandowski left, namely Sadio Mane. A bit of loss is possible, because Lewandowski has been playing with them for a long time. But even so they will not be long to move on from Robert Lewandowski. I'm sure of that.
I thought of Sadio Mane as Lewandowski's associate. I don't think he can replace Lewandowski. Lewandowski has been with Bayern Munich for a long time. And Lewandowski's understanding of the team's players was very good. It will take time for Mane to do that. Bayern Munich may now try to sign Ronaldo. The pairing of Mane and Ronaldo will make Bayern Munich's forwards stronger.
You can describe Lewandowski as a monster in attack. He is that kind of player that guarantees you at least 25 goals in the league each season. Mane is good and scores goal but cannot guarantee the number of goal Lewandowski can offer each season.  Lewandowski will surely be missed at Bayern Munich for his contributions and even though Mane will not be the perfect replace for Lewandowski,he will surely bring more fire power to the Bayern attack next season.

I totally agree with you. Robert Lewandowski scored 35 goals in 34 games in the Bundesliga last season, and 13 goals in 10 Champions League games. On the other hand, Sadio Mane scored 5 goals in 13 Champions League matches. In the Premier League, he has performed in 34 matches and scored only 16 goals. This is why I don't consider Sadio Mane as a worthy replacement for Robert Lewandowski. Sadio Mane is indeed a very talented player. However, Bayern Munich need more talented strikers if they want to do well in the Champions League.

I don't think Mane is a worthy substitute for Robert Lewandowski either, because they have a completely different level of play, but you shouldn't judge their results by home league goals scored... The EPL is very different to the Bundesliga... Mane is one of the favourites for Liverpool fans like Robert is for Bayern fans... And he definitely has potential...

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July 17, 2022, 11:10:15 AM
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Your decisions are only for you, wait until the season starts to see who Bayern coach plays in attack.
Sadio Mane played the number nine role previous years at Southampton and Liverpool.
Why do you doubt if he can still perform at a top level ?
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July 17, 2022, 12:37:42 PM
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Your decisions are only for you, wait until the season starts to see who Bayern coach plays in attack.
Sadio Mane played the number nine role previous years at Southampton and Liverpool.
Why do you doubt if he can still perform at a top level ?
Bayern Coach Will take he's finally decisions.
I think Sadio Mane will play the role of Lewandowski who is now officially part of Barcelona. Besides, I have no doubts about his quality after what he has given Liverpool so far. But of course there will be a process he has to go through to make him a player who really replaces the role that Lewandowski has played so far.

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July 17, 2022, 02:11:39 PM
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Bayern Munich must be really sad about letting Robert Lewandowski go now. He is joining the Barcelona side very soon as the agreement between the teams has been completed. It is a happy ending for Lewandowski as well because his wish has been playing for Barcelona since their interest in him started. The issues between Lewandowski and Bayern Munich caused this to happen. Bayern Munich will lose a lot of power in the attacking side for sure as Lewandowski has scored most of their goals so far.
Depending from skysports news, Robert Lewandowski have reach agreement move to Barcelona with £42.5m transfer values and not mention about transaction payment kinds with cash or Barcelona will pay several time. Robert Lewandowski will get three years contract with Barcelona and looks amazing what did by Barcelona, depending with bad news about financial crisis but Barcelona success spent almost £100m for player transfer between Raphinha and Lewandowski.

I think after final agreement and Lewandowski leaving Bayern need to find new central forward who can replace position left by Lewandowski, after success with Sadio Mane transfer from Liverpool, still not have new player target by Bayern Munich, will keep use the player already or make promotion with young player to senior team.

Bayern Munich would find a new centre-forward in time. I give zero chance for them to prefer Mane in that position above all else. When it comes to a young player they have Vidovic who is a skilled striker for sure. He has newly promoted to the senior team but I don't expect him to be preferred as the main centre-forward either. They need a strong one like Lewandowski to keep their dominance up about scoring goals. They must be ready to spend whatever money is needed as well.

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July 17, 2022, 02:18:16 PM
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Your decisions are only for you, wait until the season starts to see who Bayern coach plays in attack.
Sadio Mane played the number nine role previous years at Southampton and Liverpool.
Why do you doubt if he can still perform at a top level ?
Bayern Coach Will take he's finally decisions.
I think Sadio Mane will play the role of Lewandowski who is now officially part of Barcelona. Besides, I have no doubts about his quality after what he has given Liverpool so far. But of course there will be a process he has to go through to make him a player who really replaces the role that Lewandowski has played so far.

I don't think so because Sadio mane plays in another role in comparison of Lewandoski. Surely he will do great thing for Bayern, but they won't play in the same role, and my curiosity is also to know how Bayern will

substitute Lewa and who will be placed in this vacant position. (Maybe is probably also that Nagelsmann will change his scheme of play).


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July 17, 2022, 02:28:09 PM
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I would be surprised if that news is true because i highly doubt that Bayern will offer such a high amount of money to Juventus already. The last thing that i heard was that Juventus wants to have the same amount of money for De Ligt that they have paid for him themself, which was 80 Million €. I don't think that Bayern would pay even 1 € more than this 80 Million € but they are probably trying to get him for like 60-70 Million €. I would guess that in the end the price will be at around 80 Million € including all portential bonuses. Bayern will never pay 100 Million €. If Bayern could get De Ligt for 80 Million € then i think it is a good transfer because he is only 22 years old.

Maybe they are willing now, I have seen the news that Robert Lewandowski could now be going to Barcelona and that Bayern Munich is making a deal with Barcelona one more time, and when this happens it will be like a domino effect if Barcelona can acquire Robert Lewandowski, then Bayern Munich will need to pay the amount Juventus is saying a much worth Matthijs De Ligt to the team so they will surely need to rack tons of money for him if they have too, because when Lewandowski is out sure they are ready to gain Matthijs De Ligt on their team, and a lot of fans said that it is disrespectful for Bayern Munich to not treating De Ligt much worth in not appealing to the said amount, but I guess the Bayern Munich will surely think twice,



I don't think Mane is a worthy substitute for Robert Lewandowski either, because they have a completely different level of play, but you shouldn't judge their results by home league goals scored... The EPL is very different to the Bundesliga... Mane is one of the favourites for Liverpool fans like Robert is for Bayern fans... And he definitely has potential...

It could still be possible if Sadio Mane can be back up with a great team I think Bayern Munich still will do good and I think Bayern Munich now see the latest performance of Mane, maybe now he have improve so much for the next season, let's just wait and see if Sadio Mane have turned out to be a beast,


I think Sadio Mane will play the role of Lewandowski who is now officially part of Barcelona. Besides, I have no doubts about his quality after what he has given Liverpool so far. But of course there will be a process he has to go through to make him a player who really replaces the role that Lewandowski has played so far.

Many people will surely compare Lewandowski to Mane's performance and I think this is natural for Critics, I think Mane will surely lead the role but not the part performance-wise of Robert Lewandowski, he will never be like Lewandowski, but he can play a similar role than him, and Sadio Mane, in my opinion, still has a ceiling to grow, and now on his 30 years of age, I think he can still get that performance with the help of the team,
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July 17, 2022, 02:31:38 PM
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If you look at Bayern Munich, it seems that they have high hopes for de Ligt, it is evident that they are trying to reach the price that Juventus wants, even though the price is fantastic. It looks like there will be a long negotiation between the two, because the difference in the price proposed and what is wanted is not too far apart. Maybe there will be a price agreement that is between 80 and 100 million.

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July 17, 2022, 02:41:56 PM
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It will be a new page for Bayern München after Lewandowski's departure, he had been carrying the whole goal load for years. After the signings of Gravenberch and Mane, new additions are expected for the forward zone. Cristiano Ronaldo transfer rumors seem to be in vain. Harry Kane is the stronger candidate and Bayern would have done a fantastic job if they buy him. Whoever they get, it's hard to replace Lewandowski because he was scoring 50 goals a year. There is no such player in the world. To close this gap, other forward alternatives now need to produce more goals.

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July 17, 2022, 03:00:36 PM
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Fans will so miss Lewandowski, Lewandowski was a great player during his day's in Bayern Munich. I'm a big fan of Bayern Munich,   have always wish Lewandowski to play for Bayern Munich in next season. To be Frank Lewandowski was one of the best players in the Bundesliga.

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July 17, 2022, 03:07:01 PM
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It will be a new page for Bayern München after Lewandowski's departure, he had been carrying the whole goal load for years. After the signings of Gravenberch and Mane, new additions are expected for the forward zone. Cristiano Ronaldo transfer rumors seem to be in vain. Harry Kane is the stronger candidate and Bayern would have done a fantastic job if they buy him. Whoever they get, it's hard to replace Lewandowski because he was scoring 50 goals a year. There is no such player in the world. To close this gap, other forward alternatives now need to produce more goals.

Lewandowski is a great player, but Bayern are just as great without him. I think there are a lot of players who, once in Lewandowski's position in Bayern, will score 10-15% fewer goals per season and that will be enough for Bayern to play at their previous level. In addition, there are at least 4-5 players who will show the same results or better, but now they are busy in other clubs.

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July 17, 2022, 03:12:50 PM
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It will be a new page for Bayern München after Lewandowski's departure, he had been carrying the whole goal load for years. After the signings of Gravenberch and Mane, new additions are expected for the forward zone. Cristiano Ronaldo transfer rumors seem to be in vain. Harry Kane is the stronger candidate and Bayern would have done a fantastic job if they buy him. Whoever they get, it's hard to replace Lewandowski because he was scoring 50 goals a year. There is no such player in the world. To close this gap, other forward alternatives now need to produce more goals.

Lewandowski is a great player, but Bayern are just as great without him. I think there are a lot of players who, once in Lewandowski's position in Bayern, will score 10-15% fewer goals per season and that will be enough for Bayern to play at their previous level. In addition, there are at least 4-5 players who will show the same results or better, but now they are busy in other clubs.
Lewandowski has been with Bayern for 8 years and during that time he has been a mainstay of Bayern up front of course it will be a loss but I don't think it has a significant effect on Bayern's performance because as a team they still have a lot of great players and also now they have got a replacement that is better. Young and also has very good quality, namely Sadio Mane, maybe Mane will not be able to match the many goals that Lewandowski has created for Bayern but it is possible that Mane will make a big contribution and fill the gap in the front line left by Lewandowski.

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