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If you're talking about current form, I think Bayern Munich is better than any team and they are the favorite to win the Bundesliga. But mind you, the Bundesliga is not like the Ligue 1 where only Paris Saint German have been dominating the league for years. There are more better teams in the Bundesliga that can put up a fight against Bayern Munich for the trophy.
Bayern Munich are top form that is why no team can take the titleship this season except them. When you hear about winning the bundesliga the first team that comes to mind is Bayern Munich, Leverkusen won the title 2023/2024 season because they were in an incredible form, while Munich was having some ups and down at the time, only in past ten years Bayern has won almost all titles with the exception of 2023/2024 season. Last season Bayern won the title with 89 points while Leverkusen at the second position ended with 69 points, the distance tells that Bayern is a league wonder, always the favorite. Ligue 1 is weigh worse to begin with.
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September 17, 2025, 06:33:30 PM |
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There is still a month for the first "der Klassiker" of the season as far as I can see. It is at home for Kompany's team. Maybe the result of it is pretty much predictable. But I still love to watch it. Besides I really like what Kovac is doing these days. You would get what I mean if you watched the Juventus - Dortmund game as well.  Saying it wasn’t fair to sack Ten Hag after two weeks is hilarious because he didn’t begin his job just two weeks before his sack. He took over at the end of the previous season and also took the players through pre season which was enough time to put something together and be able to win games but he couldn’t win any game from pre season and into the season fixtures. IMO he deserved to be sacked. I wish United would do the same with Amorim.
Only pre-season games are enough for you to sack a manager right away?  Okay then. But an example like this is seen rarely in top leagues. Erik ten Hag has become one of those rare examples. I'm not defending him. I just find the action ridiculous. Only 2 leagues games we are talking about, anyways...
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Tmoonz
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September 17, 2025, 07:03:55 PM |
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Bayer Leverkusen won the league after sacking their manager. Their opponents, Eintracht Frankfurt, were a tough team, but they received two red cards and still held on. They won the match 3-1, which gives Leverkusen hope for the future. I hope Bayer Leverkusen competes with Bayern Munich for the title this year as well. Seasons where Bayern Munich celebrates an early title on their own are boring.
I think you meant to say they won the league game against Frankfurt, it is actually a good performance by Bayer Leverkusen against Frankfurt although they certainly need to improve more on their performance as this game was won by the individual brilliance of Grimaldo, but it is a good game to start building from. About competing with Bayern Munich this season for the title I think it is too ambitious at this point to think they could actually do play at such a high level, this team is totally different from the title winning team or even the team that managed to finish second last season the players that were sold were seriously at a higher level than those bought back. For me I think regardless of what people say about Ten Hag I think the club board has a lot of blame on the current form of the club I believe it's enough prove that Erik Ten Hang was not the man for the job he really got nothing to offer to the Leverkusen team, now with this win I believe Bayern Leverkusen will gain confidence of themselves if not that most of their key players has left the team I would have said they might still give Bayern Munich tough time again, because it happens to be that for the past few seasons they are the only nightmare Bayern Munich was having, but with this kind of situation they find themselves a into I don't think they will really be possible this time.
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September 17, 2025, 07:26:13 PM |
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The Leverkusen’s management were to hash on Eric Ten Hag, they blamed him for not shaping a team he just start managing within just two months, and they clearly know that he don’t have the available players to compete in the Bundesliga this season because as Alonso left the club, almost all their key players left as well leaving the team without any important experienced players to rely on. Let’s watch and see how this new coach will survive overall even though the management decides not to give Ten Hag time, if this manger do well, it means they are right and made the right decision, but it is a financial error because they will have to pay Ten Hag up. I share your view the treatment mented out to ten Hag was too has you don't expect a coach to get a very formidable team in less than two to three months these things tame time, and the club was bussy selling players without looking at the effect of selling players with replacing them with quality players too. I think that this new coach too may not last long in his job because thesame thing is likely to happen to him.
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Toro iskandar
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September 17, 2025, 07:28:49 PM |
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After Bayer Leverkusen management relieved Erik Ten Hag of his job, I was thinking that Bayer Leverkusen management was too harsh with their decision to sack Erik Ten Hag just after two matches in charge this season, but after Bayer Leverkusen's new head coach convincingly defeated Eintracht Frankfurt 3-1 with two red cards, that was when I knew Bayer Leverkusen management took the right decision to sack Erik Ten Hag in order to protect the club from disaster in the hands of Erik Ten Hag.
If we think about it more deeply, it's indeed an unethical decision to fire a coach too quickly based solely on poor performance. The decision was made for Bayer's own good, to maintain its previously established reputation. If Erik Ten Hag were to remain in charge and experience a further decline, Bayer's best history would undoubtedly be lost. Erik Ten Hag's previous history could have negatively impacted Bayer, forcing management to fire him. Now, the arrival of a new coach has proven just how bad Erik Ten Hag is
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September 17, 2025, 07:38:26 PM |
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Xabi Alonso was the coach that improved Leverkusen performance and made them the title contender with Bayern. This shows that for a club to be successful, they need a good coach who can understand the players as a team and work on them to be outstanding. The choice of coach that Leverkusen hire is what will determine if Leverkusen will fall back to be an average club or be a rival to Bayern. Ten Hag isn't a coach of such quality, he is only an average coach without any good game strategy. He depends on luck. Normally these are the qualities of a good coach. You have mentioned them already, and I can tell you that Ten Hag did not have any of these qualities. However, Xabi Alonso was a great coach, and he did a successful season in Bayer Leverkusen because he made Bayer Leverkusen one of the big clubs in Bundesliga competition, which is a great one. Before he came, Bayer Leverkusen was not this good. Furthermore, Bayern Munich went further to sell their key players, which you can say is a wrong decision they made because it won’t be easy to get that team back to its performance anymore. They would have changed some players but not sold all the key players in the squad. I think it’s wrong, so even if they get a new coach now, getting that team back to how it was before is going to be a difficult thing and will take at least 1 or 2 seasons to do.
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September 17, 2025, 09:01:11 PM |
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After Bayer Leverkusen management relieved Erik Ten Hag of his job, I was thinking that Bayer Leverkusen management was too harsh with their decision to sack Erik Ten Hag just after two matches in charge this season, but after Bayer Leverkusen's new head coach convincingly defeated Eintracht Frankfurt 3-1 with two red cards, that was when I knew Bayer Leverkusen management took the right decision to sack Erik Ten Hag in order to protect the club from disaster in the hands of Erik Ten Hag.
It is very much justifiable to be of this opinion because obviously the new coach seem to have achieved an height ten Hag could not within the period he was allowed to manage the team but it still does not justify the sack for me because just what if there was a bridge in chemistry with the players that only time would have fixed, there are several other factors that can be considered and you will agree that it was a good measure but not justified actions.
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Bayern Munich are top form that is why no team can take the titleship this season except them. When you hear about winning the bundesliga the first team that comes to mind is Bayern Munich, Leverkusen won the title 2023/2024 season because they were in an incredible form, while Munich was having some ups and down at the time, only in past ten years Bayern has won almost all titles with the exception of 2023/2024 season. Last season Bayern won the title with 89 points while Leverkusen at the second position ended with 69 points, the distance tells that Bayern is a league wonder, always the favorite. Ligue 1 is weigh worse to begin with. We are actually saying the same thing. They are top form last season, and this season too. I dont see any team that can win the trophy if not for them. At least you should try to understand what I was saying against the other guy. He said, no team can win the trophy even seasons to come if not Bayern Munich. Dont be surprised, you might get to see another team win it this season, just like how Bayern Leverkusen went unbeaten throughout that season. Any team can do it. The season just started, players will get injured, fatigue and many obstacle can hinder any good playing team from winning the title and you know that.
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September 17, 2025, 09:50:29 PM |
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Another great win for Bayern. A 3-1 victory over Chelsea proves that they are the top club that is not only dominant in the Bundesliga but can put up a good fight against any European club. Leverkusen will be tested tomorrow. They are playing an away game against Copenhagen. Bayer is a favourite, but not a big one. The current odds give them 43% chance of winning. I don't know much about Copenhagen but they went through the UCL qualifications and play-offs, which indicates they must be a solid team and shouldn't be underestimated. If Leverkusen bags a win tomorrow, that will be a sign that Hjulmand knows what he's doing and has a positive impact on the team. I probably wouldn't be betting on it though, as it's a bit too risky.
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September 17, 2025, 09:54:45 PM |
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All I'm certain is since there's no Erik Ten Hang in that team the team will bounce back, because it really hurts to think you've already made it to the top then all of a sudden everything began to crumble, it really hurts they actually believe they've past the stage of average team in the Germain Bundesliga with the help of Xabi Alonso, but Erik Ten Hang wants to drag them back but I thank God it's all going back to normal.
I'm surprised you are blaming Erik Ten Haag this much, a coach that have not even played up to five matches for the team. What would you say about the various coaches that failed at Manchester United after getting all the time and support needed to succeed? I feel it was too early to expect a magic from him, he would have done well for the team if he had more time to coach Bayern Leverkusen.
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September 17, 2025, 10:43:28 PM |
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Another great win for Bayern. A 3-1 victory over Chelsea proves that they are the top club that is not only dominant in the Bundesliga but can put up a good fight against any European club. Leverkusen will be tested tomorrow. They are playing an away game against Copenhagen. Bayer is a favourite, but not a big one. The current odds give them 43% chance of winning. I don't know much about Copenhagen but they went through the UCL qualifications and play-offs, which indicates they must be a solid team and shouldn't be underestimated. If Leverkusen bags a win tomorrow, that will be a sign that Hjulmand knows what he's doing and has a positive impact on the team. I probably wouldn't be betting on it though, as it's a bit too risky.
Just because chelsea won the fifa world cup doesn't mean that they have what It takes to face Bayern in that ucl. Bayern are always at the top of their game, I hope leverkusen would be able to keep up the good record, copenhagen isn't really a small team and they are good with goal scoring. Like you said, this game is very hard to predict but I think the best prediction here would be over 1.5 goals
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September 17, 2025, 11:04:11 PM |
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Another great win for Bayern. A 3-1 victory over Chelsea proves that they are the top club that is not only dominant in the Bundesliga but can put up a good fight against any European club.
Bayern Munich boasts a very solid squad. Furthermore, in this match, Chelsea made a fatal error by allowing Chalobah to concede a goal in the 20th minute, which certainly made for a poor start. Furthermore, Kane added to the score in the 27th minute, also from a penalty kick, due to a Chelsea error. It wasn't all over yet, as Cole Palmer revived Chelsea's spirits with a goal in the 29th minute. However, that wasn't enough; they missed numerous passes, attacks, and shooting opportunities in Bayern Munich's dense area. So, the match ended with another goal from Kane, ultimately making it 3-1. Kane was incredible in this match, as usual. Source: Massive win for Bayern!
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September 17, 2025, 11:22:21 PM |
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Just because chelsea won the fifa world cup doesn't mean that they have what It takes to face Bayern in that ucl. Bayern are always at the top of their game, I hope leverkusen would be able to keep up the good record, copenhagen isn't really a small team and they are good with goal scoring. Like you said, this game is very hard to predict but I think the best prediction here would be over 1.5 goals
Chelsea's future was not built on a single match, their win against PSG was just a win. There was no way they would win the next matches because of that match. Bayern Munich are a very strong team with a great attacking line and a balanced team. I was not optimistic about Chelsea winning, especially in the away match. Leverkusen is going to face Copenhagen. Leverkusen has not been doing well recently. The team was in a very bad state under Ten Hag. They have only played one match under new coach Kasper Hjulmand since Ten Hag was sacked. I cannot trust them right now. On the other hand, Copenhagen will give Leverkusen a tough time at home, there is no doubt.
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Bayern Munich boasts a very solid squad. Furthermore, in this match, Chelsea made a fatal error by allowing Chalobah to concede a goal in the 20th minute, which certainly made for a poor start.
Furthermore, Kane added to the score in the 27th minute, also from a penalty kick, due to a Chelsea error. It wasn't all over yet, as Cole Palmer revived Chelsea's spirits with a goal in the 29th minute. However, that wasn't enough; they missed numerous passes, attacks, and shooting opportunities in Bayern Munich's dense area.
 Agree... We saw great gameplay from Bayern Munich. Munich management has been able to create a perfect squad. Munich's forward has been able to play well, as well as Munich's defense was also quite strong in this match. Munich does not face any big problems in defeating a big team like Chelsea. The first goal of the match was due to a mistake by Chelsea defender Chalobah and the second goal was scored by Kane from a penalty spot. And in the 63rd minute, Kane scored the third goal from a pass by Ganbry. Whatever, I expected a better performance from Luis Diaz. Although Diaz did not perform badly. Still, he could not score any goals or assists. It is very important for Chelsea to learn from the mistakes of today's match. Despite having a strong squad, their performance is irregular. They have lost in the Champions League, and even in the Premier league they are not able to do well.
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Just because chelsea won the fifa world cup doesn't mean that they have what It takes to face Bayern in that ucl. Bayern are always at the top of their game, I hope leverkusen would be able to keep up the good record, copenhagen isn't really a small team and they are good with goal scoring. Like you said, this game is very hard to predict but I think the best prediction here would be over 1.5 goals
The match did not go well for Chelsea and even though they had done everything in order to achieve victory but Bayern Munich was superior in many ways so that the match was won by Bayern Munich. For Leverkusen it might be a little better after they replaced the coach and although facing Copenhagen is not easy but I am a little more optimistic for them so far because when seen in the last match Leverkusen this team has progressed compared to before and I hope they are able to get points in the match.
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September 18, 2025, 02:46:40 AM |
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Just because chelsea won the fifa world cup doesn't mean that they have what It takes to face Bayern in that ucl. Bayern are always at the top of their game, I hope leverkusen would be able to keep up the good record, copenhagen isn't really a small team and they are good with goal scoring. Like you said, this game is very hard to predict but I think the best prediction here would be over 1.5 goals
Bayern Munich always try to be at the top of their game as we saw them blow away the defending Club World Cup champions in their UEFA Champions League match. The English representatives' performance and defensive tactics were lacking in this match because my idea they were ultimately outwitted by the experienced and pioneering Bayern Munich football team. Chelsea Football Club had a lot of good players for this Champions League match but everyone saw that team's manager Enzo Maresca had left them on the bench but by the time the manager brought in Alejandro Garnacho and Andrey Santos as substitutes for this epic match, it was too late. It is largely true that the Bavarian team's best player was unstoppable and he managed to score two goals against Chelsea.
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September 18, 2025, 09:48:12 AM |
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Bayern Munich always try to be at the top of their game as we saw them blow away the defending Club World Cup champions in their UEFA Champions League match. The English representatives' performance and defensive tactics were lacking in this match because my idea they were ultimately outwitted by the experienced and pioneering Bayern Munich football team. Chelsea Football Club had a lot of good players for this Champions League match but everyone saw that team's manager Enzo Maresca had left them on the bench but by the time the manager brought in Alejandro Garnacho and Andrey Santos as substitutes for this epic match, it was too late. It is largely true that the Bavarian team's best player was unstoppable and he managed to score two goals against Chelsea.
You are right that Chelsea poor defensive strategy was main reason they lost. Against strong team like Bayern any mistake can be deadly and they were taken advantage of over and over. It is frustrating for fans to see good players on bench and it makes sense that you were upset with coach Enzo Maresca late substitutions. With Alejandro Garnacho and Andrey Santos entered game result was already decided. As you mentioned Bayern best player was unstoppable. Scoring two goals against top team like Chelsea proves how dominant he was that night. It was clear sign of why Bayern is one of Europe top teams.
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September 18, 2025, 10:16:37 AM |
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Bayern Munich always try to be at the top of their game as we saw them blow away the defending Club World Cup champions in their UEFA Champions League match. The English representatives' performance and defensive tactics were lacking in this match because my idea they were ultimately outwitted by the experienced and pioneering Bayern Munich football team. Chelsea Football Club had a lot of good players for this Champions League match but everyone saw that team's manager Enzo Maresca had left them on the bench but by the time the manager brought in Alejandro Garnacho and Andrey Santos as substitutes for this epic match, it was too late. It is largely true that the Bavarian team's best player was unstoppable and he managed to score two goals against Chelsea.
You are right that Chelsea poor defensive strategy was main reason they lost. Against strong team like Bayern any mistake can be deadly and they were taken advantage of over and over. It is frustrating for fans to see good players on bench and it makes sense that you were upset with coach Enzo Maresca late substitutions. With Alejandro Garnacho and Andrey Santos entered game result was already decided. As you mentioned Bayern best player was unstoppable. Scoring two goals against top team like Chelsea proves how dominant he was that night. It was clear sign of why Bayern is one of Europe top teams. Well tactically I think Enzo Maresca set up the team in a brilliant fashion just that it didn’t pay off this time around, maybe bayern playing at home was one advantage they had in this match and they used it well. It was an open game until chelsea conceded the 3rd goal. The game could have gone either way because Chelsea also created chances too just that they didn’t convert them. Think of the match being played on neutral ground or even at Stanford bridge I think the result might have been different. Well there is always room for improvement and I still won’t write chelsea off after just one match. As for me I still believe they are still the dark horse in this season champions league.
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September 18, 2025, 10:29:35 AM |
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All I'm certain is since there's no Erik Ten Hang in that team the team will bounce back, because it really hurts to think you've already made it to the top then all of a sudden everything began to crumble, it really hurts they actually believe they've past the stage of average team in the Germain Bundesliga with the help of Xabi Alonso, but Erik Ten Hang wants to drag them back but I thank God it's all going back to normal.
It happens a lot to teams like this they were average and then they got a good coach that helped them to the top so if they can't keep the players and the coach they are likely to go back to being the average team they were. This is exactly what's happening to Leverkusen, they lost some good players and also their coach so if they don't get a coach that is as good as Xabi Alonso or even close to his coaching abilities then I think they are going to suffer this season. It's even good that they got rid of Ten Hag at the earliest days before things get out of hand. Ten Hag doesn't seem to know what he is doing but will they be able to get a decent coach that can give them Champions league qualification for next season? Let's just hope they do. Xabi Alonso was the coach that improved Leverkusen performance and made them the title contender with Bayern. This shows that for a club to be successful, they need a good coach who can understand the players as a team and work on them to be outstanding. The choice of coach that Leverkusen hire is what will determine if Leverkusen will fall back to be an average club or be a rival to Bayern.
Ten Hag isn't a coach of such quality, he is only an average coach without any good game strategy. He depends on luck.
They improve under Alonso and now it will be difficult to get a coach as good as him, and the ones that are as good won't want to settle for Bayer Leverkusen. They will barely make an European competition this season the way I am seeing things, they just need to pray they get a coach with good coaching abilities if not that will be difficult now.
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September 18, 2025, 10:33:50 AM |
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All I'm certain is since there's no Erik Ten Hang in that team the team will bounce back, because it really hurts to think you've already made it to the top then all of a sudden everything began to crumble, it really hurts they actually believe they've past the stage of average team in the Germain Bundesliga with the help of Xabi Alonso, but Erik Ten Hang wants to drag them back but I thank God it's all going back to normal.
It happens a lot to teams like this they were average and then they got a good coach that helped them to the top so if they can't keep the players and the coach they are likely to go back to being the average team they were. This is exactly what's happening to Leverkusen, they lost some good players and also their coach so if they don't get a coach that is as good as Xabi Alonso or even close to his coaching abilities then I think they are going to suffer this season. It's even good that they got rid of Ten Hag at the earliest days before things get out of hand. Ten Hag doesn't seem to know what he is doing but will they be able to get a decent coach that can give them Champions league qualification for next season? Let's just hope they do. Xabi Alonso was the coach that improved Leverkusen performance and made them the title contender with Bayern. This shows that for a club to be successful, they need a good coach who can understand the players as a team and work on them to be outstanding. The choice of coach that Leverkusen hire is what will determine if Leverkusen will fall back to be an average club or be a rival to Bayern.
Ten Hag isn't a coach of such quality, he is only an average coach without any good game strategy. He depends on luck.
They improve under Alonso and now it will be difficult to get a coach as good as him, and the ones that are as good won't want to settle for Bayer Leverkusen. They will barely make an European competition this season the way I am seeing things, they just need to pray they get a coach with good coaching abilities if not that will be difficult now. There is a crisis right now for great coaches all over the world because we got used to the same top 10 coaches in the last decade that we kinda forget that they are getting older and older and they won't reach great performances anymore and the problem is that only a few young coaches had the chance to actually coach a big team from Europe. That's why , it's super hard right now for top teams to actually find a very experienced young coach to hire and that's why Leverkusen are facing coach issues right now ...because they have so many limited option to hire as coach  .
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