Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

[savetheFORUM]

Wolfsburg is not in good form. They have drawn two and lost one of the last three matches. Several players  in the squad are injured. Even so, Wolfsburg is the favorite in this match against Pauli. Pauli's performance is very poor. Especially their attack is weak. They have lost  in the last three matches. Crystal palace has a big chance  of winning this match.

Heidenheim will play against Mainz at  home. Heidenheim is in quite good form. They are  trying their best to get out of the relegation zone. Heidenheim has earned 10 points in the last 5 matches. They have lost only one match. If Heidenheim can earn  3 points against Mainz and Crystal palace fails to win, heidenheim will be able to qualify for the Bundesliga.

Currently at the bottom, all three teams are alive for having another chance, but from here, Heidenheim is looking to have the best chance, but still, it's difficult to predict the survivor in the last round. Any team can provide surprising performance this could be vital and create interest for fans.
 
Wolfsburg also has a chance with their history with St. Pauli always favouring them, but this game is still looking in balance for both sides, while Mainz is going to Heidenheim with an impressive away record last round. Games are going to be tensed, from Champions League spots to relegations; still, many outcomes need to be set.

[RaltcoinsB]

There hasn't been such a fierce battle for 16th place in a long time. Three teams have 26 points and are all fighting for 16th place. Also, the team that finishes 16th doesn't automatically stay in the league; they'll play a playout match against a Bundesliga 2 team. Wolfsburg is my favorite, but St Pauli will secure their place if they win at home. Therefore, this match will be very important for them.

[Shussainshah]

I dont blame Leverkusen team at all, they recovered really good after having a super strange and turbolouse start, they made a bad decission by sacking out Ten Hag super early after jsut a few games and that seal the fate of all the season is not easy to recover from that and also because the team was made by him and other coachs with diferent taste and views has to build around that players that maybe he doesnt like so.... overall is ok the season of Leverkusen.

Leverkuson made bad decisions on Xabi Alonso and it's cost him from the last 2 season. Xabi Alonso 2023/24 season was good and the expectations from Leverkuson was very high but after Xabi Alonso withdrawn and Ten Hag arrival could not meet the expectations and they change manager after manager but at the end they know it's not about manager ita all about the pattern which Xabi Alonso find him in Leverkusen squad.  Last Season was good for Leverkusen they finish 2nd but this season they are look like out of European competition and that's not Acceptable for a team like Leverkusen. 

I remember Leicester city won the premier league in 2015 and it's a fully underdog team which no one expects from him but from the last 2 year they now out of the Premier and relegate to 2nd division.  The same Leverkusen are also following the Leicester City Path.

[Egii Nna]

There hasn't been such a fierce battle for 16th place in a long time. Three teams have 26 points and are all fighting for 16th place. Also, the team that finishes 16th doesn't automatically stay in the league; they'll play a playout match against a Bundesliga 2 team. Wolfsburg is my favorite, but St Pauli will secure their place if they win at home. Therefore, this match will be very important for them.

We all know that Wolfsburg, Heidenheim, and St. Pauli, are all in the same points which is 26 points, and all of them want to make it to the 16th place in the table, even though currently Wolfsburg are there due to goal difference, but the main concern now is which of them is more likely to win their last game? And the answer for this question is likely going to be Wolfsburg. Because, to me, I can say they have more chances of winning the game than St. Pauli, but it I don’t have much hope on them as anything can happen, because both of them want to remain in the Bundesliga next season.

On the other hand Heidenheim are likely going to either lose their game or go on a draw, because I don’t think they will be able to win Mainz in their game, but for now concluding will be a bit difficult, and only time will tell. So let’s wait and see how the game will later end for all the team, and which of them will later have the last opportunity to stay in the league.

[GiftedMAN]

Top 3 is completely determined. We are still waiting on the last member of top 4... Is it going to be Stuttgart, Hoffenheim or Leverkusen? I still believe in Hoffenheim to make it.

Their remaining fixture is easier than Stuttgart. Because while Gladbach have no goal left, Frankfurt still have one last chance for top 7. Leverkusen have the least chance here as they need both of their rivals to lose their games.

I wish the fight for the last team to complete the top4 will also happen in the first 3 the league would be more interesting but seeing that Bayern Munich has won the league already the the second and third place is taken, I wish that Bayer Leverkusen can still make it to the top4 so that by next season they will try not to stop losing games that they are supposed to win. Hoffenheim and Stuttgart are in a better position to finish in the 4th place but they are playing from away and Leverkusen is playing at home if they win their games then goal will determine who stays but if they lose and Bayer Leverkusen wins with high goal margin then it's possible for them to move to 4th place.

[$weetne$$]

Like always Eric ten hag did the most of this teams by shattering what was left of the club just as he did with Manchester United but we all can see the difference when the new manager took over and he has tried and even made some positive changes that is looking good on the clubs so everything is possible next season with the new coach just that they will need to add some new selection and fresh legs which is where finance comes in play.

It is really sad to see that Ten Hag for the longest had such bad and poor precedence, he at a time was a good coach but since  he moved to Manchester and then Leverkusen he has not been able  to make same records as he did at Ajax.

Leverkusen has all the hopes of been a better  and solid  team as they were under xabi, if they are able  to bring in the right players and tactics of which I believe  they have a good coach to handle that, they can become  a really strong contender against Bayern Munich for next season championship title in the Bundesliga.

[barbara44]

The problem with most Bundesliga teams is not money, it is inconsistency with finding talent. Sure some teams find some talent time to time, but they can't repeat that success. So wirtz was sold for 150 million, great job, they made an insane 230 million euro from selling players, and they spent 200 million to be a lot worse instead.

That's the problem, they made a mere 30 million euro profit, and became half as good, I am sorry but the inconsistency at finding good players is the only reason. Managers mean a lot here too, a good manager can take the same team to top four, whereas a bad manager could make you bottom of the table, and most of the time not many teams find a good manager they can stick with for too long, even Dortmund changed it last year.

[letteredhub]

It is really sad to see that Ten Hag for the longest had such bad and poor precedence, he at a time was a good coach but since  he moved to Manchester and then Leverkusen he has not been able  to make same records as he did at Ajax.

Leverkusen has all the hopes of been a better  and solid  team as they were under xabi, if they are able  to bring in the right players and tactics of which I believe  they have a good coach to handle that, they can become  a really strong contender against Bayern Munich for next season championship title in the Bundesliga.

Erik Ten Hag performed really bad at Bayer Leverkusen  but he is not the only catalyst of their bad performance, the hierarchy also contributed to the team's struggling because that period in time, the team was in disarray, due to the massive sell off that took place the summer before that season kick off, and no coach that wouldn't struggle at first, when something like that  happens. I don't see him as a bad coach that much

[Jegileman]

That's the problem, they made a mere 30 million euro profit, and became half as good, I am sorry but the inconsistency at finding good players is the only reason. Managers mean a lot here too, a good manager can take the same team to top four, whereas a bad manager could make you bottom of the table, and most of the time not many teams find a good manager they can stick with for too long, even Dortmund changed it last year.

I still feel most of these teams are not really after how they can get the best of players all in their teams. For them, football is a game of business and anyone who comes with a good offer, they easily accept such offers and then make sure that they get average players and build them aging and up for sale again. This is how I see most of this underdogs teams that sell their good players to big teams and left with no one to help propel the team again. It looks like it’ll take a very long time before we behind to see changes to how we view the Bundesliga, hopefully by then it’ll be more challenging and get us more focused to watch them.

[Dzwaafu11]

It is really sad to see that Ten Hag for the longest had such bad and poor precedence, he at a time was a good coach but since  he moved to Manchester and then Leverkusen he has not been able  to make same records as he did at Ajax.

Leverkusen has all the hopes of been a better  and solid  team as they were under xabi, if they are able  to bring in the right players and tactics of which I believe  they have a good coach to handle that, they can become  a really strong contender against Bayern Munich for next season championship title in the Bundesliga.

Erik Ten Hag performed really bad at Bayer Leverkusen  but he is not the only catalyst of their bad performance, the hierarchy also contributed to the team's struggling because that period in time, the team was in disarray, due to the massive sell off that took place the summer before that season kick off, and no coach that wouldn't struggle at first, when something like that  happens. I don't see him as a bad coach that much

I actually think Bayer Leverkusen performance messed up the moment they sold their key players, who were the key players in this team. Because Bayer Leverkusen performance was very great they become a threat to Bayern Munich, they almost stop Bayern Munich from dominating the Bundesliga title, but they end up selling their main players that can give them what they want.

So Erik Ten hag is not reason why Bayer Leverkusen become this bad, Bayer Leverkusen should just get in new players to strengthen their squad.

[Adams0001]

The problem with most Bundesliga teams is not money, it is inconsistency with finding talent. Sure some teams find some talent time to time, but they can't repeat that success. So wirtz was sold for 150 million, great job, they made an insane 230 million euro from selling players, and they spent 200 million to be a lot worse instead.

That's the problem, they made a mere 30 million euro profit, and became half as good, I am sorry but the inconsistency at finding good players is the only reason. Managers mean a lot here too, a good manager can take the same team to top four, whereas a bad manager could make you bottom of the table, and most of the time not many teams find a good manager they can stick with for too long, even Dortmund changed it last year.

They are many good players in the Bundesliga clubs but they easily sold them out when big clubs comes for them and that is the main reason why bayern Munich are just dominating the competition because they have more key players then them in the league and is very difficult to compete with them.

Dortmund and bayer Leverkusen are the only club trying to compete with Kompany in the league every season but I see they always failed since xabi Alonso coach Leverkusen and win the league title for the clubs, they have not won any trophies since then anymore. Let just see how the next season will goes, they have changed almost two coach since xabi Alonso leave Levekusen but still know one can do like him. Munich have won the league for this season already let see if another club can try and challenge them next season and stop them from wining it for the third term in a role.

[dezoel]

leverkusen can never be compared to what it was some time ago, even having the coach who was so good and also lucky had an extra touch, obviously they also sold the best players, because the request from the big teams arrived and they didn't wait, they went straight away.

It's a very natural situation, on the other hand they need money to continue the next season on the other hand also players certainly also want to move to a bigger team or even to a much bigger league for their career journey, the circulation of these players is very natural in my opinion.
But speaking of comparisons it will always exist automatically, there will always be those who compare whether good or bad, it will always be there, so don't be strange with phrases like that.

You can never be a big club if you keep selling your good players to bigger clubs. The key to being a big club to convince those players to stay, either with money, or anything else. While that may cost a lot, it might be the cost of staying at near the top, otherwise you will be bad.

Leverkusen for example sold their players, sure they made a lot of money, but look at them now. Even if you have to sell your players, might as well get someone good, if you get someone bad and spend as much, then what's the point?

[len01]

And the answer for this question is likely going to be Wolfsburg. Because, to me, I can say they have more chances of winning the game than St. Pauli,

It all depends on whether some key players will miss the match. From my current analysis, it is still unclear whether Wolfsburg will be without Arnold and Jonas Wind. If both of them are absent from the game, their chances of winning become slim, and the match could likely end in a draw. On the other hand, St. Pauli is also dealing with injury issues to several important players. So it is better to wait and see how both teams line up before making a final assessment.

[KTChampions]

Top 3 is completely determined. We are still waiting on the last member of top 4... Is it going to be Stuttgart, Hoffenheim or Leverkusen? I still believe in Hoffenheim to make it.

Their remaining fixture is easier than Stuttgart. Because while Gladbach have no goal left, Frankfurt still have one last chance for top 7. Leverkusen have the least chance here as they need both of their rivals to lose their games.

I don't think Eintracht is very interested in a ticket to the Conference League  But they are undoubtedly a much more dangerous opponent than Mönchengladbach, just compare their attack: 59 goals scored for Eintracht, and only 38 for Mönchengladbach (against a comparable number of goals conceded). Therefore, most likely, Hoffenheim is the favorite in the fight for the top 4, but Stuttgart is in a better position since the result depends only on their efforts and if they win, they will be in the top 4.

[MarjorieZimmermanGinger]

You can never be a big club if you keep selling your good players to bigger clubs. The key to being a big club to convince those players to stay, either with money, or anything else. While that may cost a lot, it might be the cost of staying at near the top, otherwise you will be bad.

Leverkusen for example sold their players, sure they made a lot of money, but look at them now. Even if you have to sell your players, might as well get someone good, if you get someone bad and spend as much, then what's the point?

Not only did Leverkusen sell some key players last season, but Dortmund often did the same thing long before that, making it quite difficult for some Bundesliga teams to match the power of Bayern Munich. If some Bundesliga clubs don't change this pattern, it will be difficult for any team to break Bayern Munich's dominance. Even if they managed to do it like Leverkusen, it would be nothing more than luck and perhaps Bayern Munich would have suffered a slight setback in the same season.

Selling some potential players can be financially beneficial for a club, but don't expect the team to win any trophies. Similar to Dortmund in recent seasons, even though they managed to keep pace with Bayern Munich, they ultimately failed to win the title and Bayern Munich ultimately emerged victorious.

[letteredhub]

Erik Ten Hag performed really bad at Bayer Leverkusen  but he is not the only catalyst of their bad performance, the hierarchy also contributed to the team's struggling because that period in time, the team was in disarray, due to the massive sell off that took place the summer before that season kick off, and no coach that wouldn't struggle at first, when something like that  happens. I don't see him as a bad coach that much

I actually think Bayer Leverkusen performance messed up the moment they sold their key players, who were the key players in this team. Because Bayer Leverkusen performance was very great they become a threat to Bayern Munich, they almost stop Bayern Munich from dominating the Bundesliga title, but they end up selling their main players that can give them what they want.

So Erik Ten hag is not reason why Bayer Leverkusen become this bad, Bayer Leverkusen should just get in new players to strengthen their squad.

I thought it was just me that was wondering what plan Bayer Leverkusen actually had in hand for them to have jump at the option of selling out their best players, and without replacing them with equal quality of players or even ones above standard but we're expecting some kind of magic from a new coach that would be brought in to replace Xabi Alonso. It was unfortunate that Erik Ten Hag had to find himself there at that moment and it made it all appeared as though he was really that worse of a coach especially after leaving Manchester United with a poor performance.
Lets hope they make amends with next window transfer for the next season to improve the team depth as it should be to be able to stand competitive against Bayern Munich.

[changaa]

And the answer for this question is likely going to be Wolfsburg. Because, to me, I can say they have more chances of winning the game than St. Pauli,

It all depends on whether some key players will miss the match. From my current analysis, it is still unclear whether Wolfsburg will be without Arnold and Jonas Wind. If both of them are absent from the game, their chances of winning become slim, and the match could likely end in a draw. On the other hand, St. Pauli is also dealing with injury issues to several important players. So it is better to wait and see how both teams line up before making a final assessment.

Wolfsburg has a very high chance of winning, i believe they also have a better team, but of course to make a definitive estimate you have to wait for the team to field its lineup and i must say that even if there are some absences i don't think it will be much lower than the others, as always.

[Agathamay]

The problem with most Bundesliga teams is not money, it is inconsistency with finding talent. Sure some teams find some talent time to time, but they can't repeat that success. So wirtz was sold for 150 million, great job, they made an insane 230 million euro from selling players, and they spent 200 million to be a lot worse instead.

That's the problem, they made a mere 30 million euro profit, and became half as good, I am sorry but the inconsistency at finding good players is the only reason. Managers mean a lot here too, a good manager can take the same team to top four, whereas a bad manager could make you bottom of the table, and most of the time not many teams find a good manager they can stick with for too long, even Dortmund changed it last year.

You're right I'm beginning to see the wings of this whole criteria about inconsistency. How can an elite team like Bayer leverkusen spoiled the good form? Don't they wanna win trophies? What's happening to these Bundesliga sides? This is also another reason why Bayern Munich will keep dominating and expressing their upper hand in Germany since the other sides are not willingly to take the bold steps.

Don't get it twisted, I'm not saying they shouldn't sell their places when the proper bids is on the table, they should trigger the sell clause and also have a good scout section that's proactive to bring in good replacement. This is not just good for teams to be in one season wonder, time to wake them up from their misery.

In the case of Florian wirtz been trigger for such amount for the English side where he's hasn't done half of the expectations why he was brought here. He needs to be 10x better next season because he knows the intensity of the league he currently feature in, they need swift results.

[Renampun]

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Leverkusen for example sold their players, sure they made a lot of money, but look at them now. Even if you have to sell your players, might as well get someone good, if you get someone bad and spend as much, then what's the point?

It will indeed impact the team's performance if they frequently sell their good players.. but realistically, if there is a better offer for the player, the team will definitely sell the player, because the player is also an investment for the club, and when the investment value is at its peak, selling at a high price is a reasonable decision. not all teams have the ability to hold on to their good players, so this is a decision that has been considered beforehand.