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September 16, 2016, 08:04:48 AM
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@weilichesbin: The comparison with gold is rubbish. You can go out (or order online) real gold or silver for money. It isn´t just paper! The problem here is that you can´t also compare a bank (even if its a broken one) with a new crypto exchange, which is buying and selling option for real BTC. Think about it! That doesn´t mean that it´s a scam, its more like the grey market compared to stocks or in the us the so called OTC or pink sheets. But its risky, more than crypto anyway. So the people decide what they wanna do with ther coins!

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September 16, 2016, 08:09:55 AM
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@weilichesbin: The comparison with gold is rubbish. You can go out (or order online) real gold or silver for money. It isn´t just paper! The problem here is that you can´t also compare a bank (even if its a broken one) with a new crypto exchange, which is buying and selling option for real BTC. Think about it! That doesn´t mean that it´s a scam, its more like the grey market compared to stocks or in the us the so called OTC or pink sheets. But its risky, more than crypto anyway. So the people decide what they wanna do with ther coins!

Yes u are in right, but as also you now told IT IS NOOOO SCAM.

The complete crypto market is very very risky, but only where it is risky you can make big profits.
And in my opinion everythink might be good  if you only invested everytime the money you are able to loose.

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September 16, 2016, 08:14:07 AM
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I trieb out www.liqui.io and it works.The good think is you get the coin befreien ich and can trade the and take the Profit befreit all others.

This kind of make less sense, how can you trade a coin before even having it? IS it like futures and options or something? Hope it doesn't turn into a scam or ponzi and people loose money again.

Is just some people trying to capitalise on the first day 50% profit and make money from it, some people don't like to see their capital tied down that long, 50% in a week is a good business
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September 16, 2016, 08:19:13 AM
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What i tell is my personal opinion, not proven at all. Why is it so importamt for you that somebody, you hasn´t invested any coin in this exchange, says "that doens´t mean it´s a scam"? E.g. Hash Ocean, a lot of people told from the beginning that its a ponzi, a lot others (no noobs) invested with good trust for more than 2 years (and some even  recieved descent Wink profits).

The future will show whats going on with liqui, if the market excepts the model or if its even a tiny Mt.Gox of future altcoin market Grin

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September 16, 2016, 08:19:20 AM
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I trieb out www.liqui.io and it works.The good think is you get the coin befreien ich and can trade the and take the Profit befreit all others.

This kind of make less sense, how can you trade a coin before even having it? IS it like futures and options or something? Hope it doesn't turn into a scam or ponzi and people loose money again.

Is just some people trying to capitalise on the first day 50% profit and make money from it, some people don't like to see their capital tied down that long, 50% in a week is a good business

I think it also and I have make in 2 days now 13% if i would like to sold. Bought at 0.00016 and now their are buyer which paid 0.000182.
And next week if the Ico drops to 4500DCT per BTC the Price will automatically raise to 0.00022 on Liqui because that is the price which is equal to the ICO Price
At the End of the ICo (in 6 Weeks) the Equal Price will be 0.00033 on Liqui so if i would like to sell  i would like make 106%.... how much are the ICO payers able to make in this time?

RIGHT Nothing. They have to wait until next year.

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September 16, 2016, 08:27:38 AM
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I never told I put in big Sums of money, only the money i am able to loos.
The money that dont hurts.

And really. For A new Exchange with only 500 Users a 24hours Volume for an IO Coin is in my opinion quiet good.

And also the money you can make is every time in new small markets, never in deep water with big whales  Wink

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September 16, 2016, 08:33:37 AM
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I trieb out www.liqui.io and it works.The good think is you get the coin befreien ich and can trade the and take the Profit befreit all others.

This kind of make less sense, how can you trade a coin before even having it? IS it like futures and options or something? Hope it doesn't turn into a scam or ponzi and people loose money again.

Is just some people trying to capitalise on the first day 50% profit and make money from it, some people don't like to see their capital tied down that long, 50% in a week is a good business

I think it also and I have make in 2 days now 13% if i would like to sold. Bought at 0.00016 and now their are buyer which paid 0.000182.
And next week if the Ico drops to 4500DCT per BTC the Price will automatically raise to 0.00022 on Liqui because that is the price which is equal to the ICO Price
At the End of the ICo (in 6 Weeks) the Equal Price will be 0.00033 on Liqui so if i would like to sell  i would like make 106%.... how much are the ICO payers able to make in this time?

RIGHT Nothing. They have to wait until next year.

yes yes, you must be making a fucking ton of BTC on the liqui IOU shit with its 2.52 BTC volume  Grin

and oh, now LIQUI is planning to do ICONOMI IOU as well but they have yet to invest in ICONOMI

proof:




What guarantees do we have that they have indeed invested in the DECENT ICO as well?

 Roll Eyes

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September 16, 2016, 08:37:32 AM
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I trieb out www.liqui.io and it works.The good think is you get the coin befreien ich and can trade the and take the Profit befreit all others.

This kind of make less sense, how can you trade a coin before even having it? IS it like futures and options or something? Hope it doesn't turn into a scam or ponzi and people loose money again.

Is just some people trying to capitalise on the first day 50% profit and make money from it, some people don't like to see their capital tied down that long, 50% in a week is a good business

I think it also and I have make in 2 days now 13% if i would like to sold. Bought at 0.00016 and now their are buyer which paid 0.000182.
And next week if the Ico drops to 4500DCT per BTC the Price will automatically raise to 0.00022 on Liqui because that is the price which is equal to the ICO Price
At the End of the ICo (in 6 Weeks) the Equal Price will be 0.00033 on Liqui so if i would like to sell  i would like make 106%.... how much are the ICO payers able to make in this time?

RIGHT Nothing. They have to wait until next year.

yes yes, you must be making a fucking ton of BTC on the liqui IOU shit with its 2.52 BTC volume  Grin

and oh, now LIQUI is planning to do ICONOMI IOU as well but they have yet to invest in ICONOMI

proof:




What guarantees do we have that they have indeed invested in the DECENT ICO as well?

 Roll Eyes


What guarantees you have that your Bank has your money from your account?
What guarantees you have that you get your money from your work at the end of the month?

If you want guarantees buy a TV. I think it is 1 year guarantee.

If you want try to make money you must Risk.

Thats my 5 Cent and now I am out here and write nothing more.

Bye

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September 16, 2016, 08:42:06 AM
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stop talking about banks you twat.

we are talking about a fly by night NEW CRYPTO EXCHANGE.

You obviously don't have a leg to fucking stand on.

So my dear shill , stfu and piss off

 Grin

PS: Maybe Liqui should be put everything to rest by showing us a screenshot of their DECENT DASHBOARD showing their 10 BTC investment....

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September 16, 2016, 08:54:21 AM
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When is the 50% bonus going to be implemented for the first day investors, today is Friday and weekend has already started here in the part of the world. Decent team please address this. Thanks
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September 16, 2016, 09:01:28 AM
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Quote from: DeadBirdzz



What guarantees do we have that they have indeed invested in the DECENT ICO as well?

 Roll Eyes


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t4KZA-GkVmvW9PBckRtzz2Mn9-_26LzFAVAcEEeOh9E/edit#gid=0
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September 16, 2016, 09:11:07 AM
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What guarantees do we have that they have indeed invested in the DECENT ICO as well?

 Roll Eyes


https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t4KZA-GkVmvW9PBckRtzz2Mn9-_26LzFAVAcEEeOh9E/edit#gid=0

sweet.

Now that the DECENT peeps have your account details, I hope they refund you your 10 BTC and that you don't get your tokens.

 Grin

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September 16, 2016, 09:19:11 AM
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may i bought an IOU tokens? sorry i'm still new here

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September 16, 2016, 01:09:57 PM
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Hi all


first of all - I invested a small amount in the project and wanted to share some thoughts/concerns I have:

1. the newsletter did not reach all participants on time regarding the ICO, and looking at the bitcoins invested, the first few hours was HEAVY invested - i think the first one was 200BC and other similar sums
I read the glitches part - sounds more like an excuses. What will be when the real technical challenges will take place? Handling newsletter and simple API/website with 2FA is not the most complicated thing out there

2. The team - the founders are not technical guys, meaning a lot of devs will need to be hired and paid. Not sure what the founders will do in the next few months. Who is gonna be paid from ICO money and how much?
Not to offend, but going over the team info from the website, it sounded a bit forced: "...helping to organize events...", "supporting the community"... nothing actual that I could see
Besides Marián Hvizdoš few words I couldn't see much more. Also - he says it CAN become this and that, he is the escrow of the project... donno, kinda fishy to me

3. Some technical impressions so far:
    a. ICO portal (after login) - looks clumsy to say the least.

    b. No google authentication, which is MUST for every ICO and other platform that respect itself ( I participated in few ICOs - all had google auth).
        This one time code-to-email looong line looks bad, the menu to chose from (only 1 option) looks almost amateur

    c. Need to login again if u want to see updated info.. no refresh??

    d. Things just DONT work: Contact us form in the official website generates error in white letters over gray background - really hard to read it.
        Where are the email addresses?? support@decent... Why just a web form? what happens if it doesn't work? what are the alternative ways to contact you exactly?
        Do you really expect us to visit you there? Who is there anyway??


 I know it is the beginning of the ICO, BUT it does't matter - coding is coding and the above points show me little dev skills or "let's publish it fast, doesn't matter how it looks like"


4. Coins distribution - definitely not my cup of tea - why ppl get less if they join during the ICO? It is acceptable not to get any bonus, but the fixed price should be the same - total cons issued/total funds
And no, cutting the bonus after X weeks is NOT the same as giving different price per token - 10% less every week??

5. Seems like the team is flying around the globe lately - from far east to USA, Bahamas?!!? Why Bahamas - is it a strategic place to be during the first week of your ICO?
New offices in Shanghai.. So, if your center is located in the far east - what r u doing in the Bahamas? Who is funding the flights/hotels/drinks? Is it the ICO money perhaps?

have some more, but that is a good start

Waiting for your thoughts
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September 16, 2016, 01:33:45 PM
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Hi all


first of all - I invested a small amount in the project and wanted to share some thoughts/concerns I have:

1. the newsletter did not reach all participants on time regarding the ICO, and looking at the bitcoins invested, the first few hours was HEAVY invested - i think the first one was 200BC and other similar sums
I read the glitches part - sounds more like an excuses. What will be when the real technical challenges will take place? Handling newsletter and simple API/website with 2FA is not the most complicated thing out there

2. The team - the founders are not technical guys, meaning a lot of devs will need to be hired and paid. Not sure what the founders will do in the next few months. Who is gonna be paid from ICO money and how much?
Not to offend, but going over the team info from the website, it sounded a bit forced: "...helping to organize events...", "supporting the community"... nothing actual that I could see
Besides Marián Hvizdoš few words I couldn't see much more. Also - he says it CAN become this and that, he is the escrow of the project... donno, kinda fishy to me

3. Some technical impressions so far:
    a. ICO portal (after login) - looks clumsy to say the least.

    b. No google authentication, which is MUST for every ICO and other platform that respect itself ( I participated in few ICOs - all had google auth).
        This one time code-to-email looong line looks bad, the menu to chose from (only 1 option) looks almost amateur

    c. Need to login again if u want to see updated info.. no refresh??

    d. Things just DONT work: Contact us form in the official website generates error in white letters over gray background - really hard to read it.
        Where are the email addresses?? support@decent... Why just a web form? what happens if it doesn't work? what are the alternative ways to contact you exactly?
        Do you really expect us to visit you there? Who is there anyway??


 I know it is the beginning of the ICO, BUT it does't matter - coding is coding and the above points show me little dev skills or "let's publish it fast, doesn't matter how it looks like"


4. Coins distribution - definitely not my cup of tea - why ppl get less if they join during the ICO? It is acceptable not to get any bonus, but the fixed price should be the same - total cons issued/total funds
And no, cutting the bonus after X weeks is NOT the same as giving different price per token - 10% less every week??

5. Seems like the team is flying around the globe lately - from far east to USA, Bahamas?!!? Why Bahamas - is it a strategic place to be during the first week of your ICO?
New offices in Shanghai.. So, if your center is located in the far east - what r u doing in the Bahamas? Who is funding the flights/hotels/drinks? Is it the ICO money perhaps?

have some more, but that is a good start

Waiting for your thoughts
Hi, thank you for your thoughts.

1. We are using Mailchimp as a newsletter provider.
2. Dunno where you got this information. Matej Michalko studied Computer Science at EPFL in Switzerland and I studied mathematics and physics. The ICO money are not being used right now. Marian Hvizdos isn't escrow on the project he just endorsed the project because he believes in it.
3. As said before and cleared in the latest announcement regarding the ICO software, we used platform from Stratis and cooperated directly with Chris on it.
4. This price decrease is there to reward the earliest supporters.
5. DECENT is looking to become global project therefore we need to ensure the community is built up around the globe. This is currently payed from our own resources. You can see that ICO funds are still in the wallet https://blockchain.info/address/33WDB3nsVHH5qafCAriPb8Jmb1e3ptsY4h

Hope my answers satisfied you.

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September 16, 2016, 01:35:56 PM
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imho dont buy on liqui, yobit or others IOU shit moneystealers

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September 16, 2016, 02:29:17 PM
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Hi, can i please get the answer on my qustions? I think it's a legitimate question for every investor.

Will Hollywood movies, UFC, tv shows and similar content be removed after DCMA lawsuits?

This are important questions, whole success might depends on this question, and if DECENT teams will remove this kind of content i don't see this project succeeding, thepiratebay will still be the kind in this area.

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September 16, 2016, 02:53:13 PM
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Hi, can i please get the answer on my qustions? I think it's a legitimate question for every investor.

Will Hollywood movies, UFC, tv shows and similar content be removed after DCMA lawsuits?

This are important questions, whole success might depends on this question, and if DECENT teams will remove this kind of content i don't see this project succeeding, thepiratebay will still be the kind in this area.

Short answer: Decent can't run around and collect money for a project that is supposed to provide illegal content. That's just common sense.


As has been pointed out before, it is impossible to delete these things out of the Decent system directly. Instead, you need to filter this through the clients used. If Decent takes off, there is a decent (no pun intended) chance, that alternative clients will pop up, with which you'll be able to access content that is blocked by the "official" client (but which makes them, at least in some jurisdictions, illegal).

These are just my thoughts on that matter, though. Could be utterly wrong.
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September 16, 2016, 04:25:29 PM
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The future of online data distribution is reaching the point of realization with help of our supporters. Thank you!
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@dev when will the POW phase will be live with minergate is there a date or only just signed??? also is there wallet Huh
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