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Hi I am looking for 1 coupon. I can send you real thank you postcard from Wieliczka Salt Mine ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Bitamain User ID: david99 Thank You
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philipma1957
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September 01, 2015, 10:21:18 PM |
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people are aware of this.
so if btc shows 1000 units sold tack on 10% or so for other sales and we are at 1100.
just a guess but it is more then 0% so why not not just pick 10%
and realize we are 1000 to 1100 units sold
4100 BTC, but 1628 came from one order of at least 200 machines. the rest-2472 BTCor ~300 machines. Total maybe about 500 S7 so bump to 600 this makes 500 to 600 as a fair estimate. and 600 x 5th = 3ph in sales give or take 500th
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September 01, 2015, 10:36:49 PM |
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Chances of ROI with 6 of these + 25% VAT? (The differences in VAT is kinda depressing) ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I would highly suggest looking for a hosting data center. I'm all for home mining but at 25 vat that's just to much of a disadvantage unless you have extremely cheap electricity. What country are you in? I've considered it, but there really isn't any real options out there. Do you know any? This guy looks promising: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1159107.0I've already sent the money, no going back now! ^^ But I would consider something like the guy in the link above for future orders, if he turns out to be legit! Paying about 0.06$/kW atm. I'm located in Trondheim, Norway. I'm still running the S1's tho.. I know its kinda dumb, but I love it! Besides, they heat the house.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJ_kJLGYxRQI will replace them with S7's when they arrive. (And rebuild the room to get more of the heat out). You might want to check these guys: http://www.greatnorthdata.com/They're cheapest I could find anywhere.
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September 01, 2015, 11:25:39 PM |
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A lot of us here are not mine owners, rather home miners mostly for fun. So your point doesn't make sense to me.
I'm trying really hard, but I don't see any "fun" aspect. Unbox, plug and play and time to time click broswe and upload new firmware..this is what you are calling "fun"? if yes, you really don't know what "fun" for geeks is, but believe or not, it is not overpriced noisy box from China and you don't need to invest 2k USD to enjoy it, really. Fun stuff would be cheap things like sidehacks USB sticks, whilst they are unlikely to ROI you can use them as a lottery ticket and solo mine, but I agree 2k for fun is not for me. Real fun vanished at the end of the GPU era, so many combinations of things to try fancy rigs to be built and new firmwares and bios and drivers, and all the associated tweaking of clock speeds and voltages trying to get the most from every type of card. I think we are just to old in the BTC game ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I set up a couple old GPUs on my Gaming computer a few weeks ago to mine VNL when it took off. So i got to relive that GPU tweaking experience again ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and they're making more $$ my last S3.
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September 01, 2015, 11:27:24 PM |
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A lot of us here are not mine owners, rather home miners mostly for fun. So your point doesn't make sense to me.
I'm trying really hard, but I don't see any "fun" aspect. Unbox, plug and play and time to time click broswe and upload new firmware..this is what you are calling "fun"? if yes, you really don't know what "fun" for geeks is, but believe or not, it is not overpriced noisy box from China and you don't need to invest 2k USD to enjoy it, really. Fun stuff would be cheap things like sidehacks USB sticks, whilst they are unlikely to ROI you can use them as a lottery ticket and solo mine, but I agree 2k for fun is not for me. Real fun vanished at the end of the GPU era, so many combinations of things to try fancy rigs to be built and new firmwares and bios and drivers, and all the associated tweaking of clock speeds and voltages trying to get the most from every type of card. I think we are just to old in the BTC game ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I set up a couple old GPUs on my Gaming computer a few weeks ago to mine VNL when it took off. So i got to relive that GPU tweaking experience again ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and they're making more $$ my last S3. Yeah I did the same but for ETH and gave up after a couple of days because mining/wallet experience was so poorly done. Good thing they burned through millions on it before launch.
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September 01, 2015, 11:55:15 PM |
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May I remind you of something called "HALVING" before going crazy on a purchasing spree?
July 2016 is 10 months or 300 days away. Making this the perfect time to expand. Since you should roi in 250 days with this gear. So basically you are saying that this invested money to risk getting any actual profits only during the last 50 days before halving slays miners in half (not to mention the previous increased difficulty from those who jump in)? hmmm....Not sure if I'd call that 'perfect.'
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kodokbuduk
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September 02, 2015, 01:06:29 AM Last edit: September 02, 2015, 01:20:03 AM by kodokbuduk |
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Any free coupon for S7? wanna buy S7 id: kodokbuduk Thanks! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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xstr8guy
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September 02, 2015, 01:29:33 AM |
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So who is buying the S7?
I think it has too little power. I thought it would have around 10 - 20 TH/s. But okay, it has the new chips.
When is 16nm coming? For me in Germany it is hard to mine with those prices for electricity... :/
And what kind of circuit are you going to run a 10-20THs miner? Remember, the S7 is aimed at the home miner.
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September 02, 2015, 01:36:11 AM |
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So who is buying the S7?
I think it has too little power. I thought it would have around 10 - 20 TH/s. But okay, it has the new chips.
When is 16nm coming? For me in Germany it is hard to mine with those prices for electricity... :/
And what kind of circuit are you going to run a 10-20THs miner? Remember, the S7 is aimed at the home miner. I would rather call it a shed- or basement- or outside-of-home miner if it is really going to be 75dB or more as some are suggesting. Unmodded S5 in batch1 and with initial software and only one fan was doing 72dB of "metallic"sound.
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September 02, 2015, 01:37:01 AM |
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Cant wait to see the sound level.
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philipma1957
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September 02, 2015, 01:46:31 AM |
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So who is buying the S7?
I think it has too little power. I thought it would have around 10 - 20 TH/s. But okay, it has the new chips.
When is 16nm coming? For me in Germany it is hard to mine with those prices for electricity... :/
And what kind of circuit are you going to run a 10-20THs miner? Remember, the S7 is aimed at the home miner. I would rather call it a shed- or basement- or outside-of-home miner if it is really going to be 75dB or more as some are suggesting. Unmodded S5 in batch1 and with initial software and only one fan was doing 72dB of "metallic"sound. I have done prisma and it was loud it also needed 2 fans not one. My gut feeling is this will be 75db and same nasty pitch. I think fan mods will help knock sound down a bit. but loud it has to be if you want to get that 4800 gh out of it.
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September 02, 2015, 02:04:18 AM |
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So who is buying the S7?
I think it has too little power. I thought it would have around 10 - 20 TH/s. But okay, it has the new chips.
When is 16nm coming? For me in Germany it is hard to mine with those prices for electricity... :/
And what kind of circuit are you going to run a 10-20THs miner? Remember, the S7 is aimed at the home miner. I would rather call it a shed- or basement- or outside-of-home miner if it is really going to be 75dB or more as some are suggesting. Unmodded S5 in batch1 and with initial software and only one fan was doing 72dB of "metallic"sound. By saying "home miner", I mean that the S7 is designed to run on an average home's circuits rather than only in a datacenter. Where the person decides to place the miner in their home is irrelevant. But yes, a garage or basement is the best place to run most any miner. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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September 02, 2015, 02:08:32 AM |
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4100 BTC, but 1628 came from one order of at least 200 machines. the rest-2472 BTCor ~300 machines. Total maybe about 500 S7
so bump to 600 this makes 500 to 600 as a fair estimate.
and 600 x 5th = 3ph in sales give or take 500th
3ph if my maths is correct is less than 1% of the hash rate for bitcoins. So assuming that nobody is replacing their old gear with S7s and they just leave all their equipment on and that everybody is mining bitcoins with their new S7s then that would only be a 1% increase in the difficulty? That's way better than what I was expecting.
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September 02, 2015, 02:12:40 AM |
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4100 BTC, but 1628 came from one order of at least 200 machines. the rest-2472 BTCor ~300 machines. Total maybe about 500 S7
so bump to 600 this makes 500 to 600 as a fair estimate.
and 600 x 5th = 3ph in sales give or take 500th
3ph if my maths is correct is less than 1% of the hash rate for bitcoins. So assuming that nobody is replacing their old gear with S7s and they just leave all their equipment on and that everybody is mining bitcoins with their new S7s then that would only be a 1% increase in the difficulty? That's way better than what I was expecting. Well, that's just a few days of sales so far. But yes, it illustrates that it's not as easy as it may seem to move the difficulty of a 400+ PH/s network.
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September 02, 2015, 02:17:19 AM |
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4100 BTC, but 1628 came from one order of at least 200 machines. the rest-2472 BTCor ~300 machines. Total maybe about 500 S7
so bump to 600 this makes 500 to 600 as a fair estimate.
and 600 x 5th = 3ph in sales give or take 500th
3ph if my maths is correct is less than 1% of the hash rate for bitcoins. So assuming that nobody is replacing their old gear with S7s and they just leave all their equipment on and that everybody is mining bitcoins with their new S7s then that would only be a 1% increase in the difficulty? That's way better than what I was expecting. the problem is bitmaintech self mines. So 1 s-7 uses the same power as 2 s-5's you can bet dollars to donuts that they are swapping the s-7 for the s-5 and have been doing it for a month in their mines. so we are having hash jump a lot. so also realize that bitmaintech and bitfury can add 100ph if they want and don't since the have no need to get into an arms war.
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September 02, 2015, 02:25:31 AM |
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So who is buying the S7?
I think it has too little power. I thought it would have around 10 - 20 TH/s. But okay, it has the new chips.
When is 16nm coming? For me in Germany it is hard to mine with those prices for electricity... :/
And what kind of circuit are you going to run a 10-20THs miner? Remember, the S7 is aimed at the home miner. I would rather call it a shed- or basement- or outside-of-home miner if it is really going to be 75dB or more as some are suggesting. Unmodded S5 in batch1 and with initial software and only one fan was doing 72dB of "metallic"sound. By saying "home miner", I mean that the S7 is designed to run on an average home's circuits rather than only in a datacenter. Where the person decides to place the miner in their home is irrelevant. But yes, a garage or basement is the best place to run most any miner. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) another home miner from Bitmain is coming...but some might not like it-Antrouter. http://bitcoinist.net/exclusive-interview-jihan-wu-bitmain-s7-block-size-debate/The AntRouter is its final stage of development. The first generation will use the BM1384 chip. Mining bitcoin with the router is a long time dream for the Bitcoin miners. A simple device that will mine BTC and have other useful functions.
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September 02, 2015, 02:27:29 AM |
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I completely understand the whole "mining is a fun hobby" concept. I think it is/was great fun even if you're not a tweaker geek. I've been ASIC mining pretty much since the start (although I missed the batch 1 Avalons and bet on BFL and bASIC instead, lol). I've quit mining altogether now since the SP20s aren't profitable to run for me anymore. In my dreams, I'd love to have a SFARDS SF100 and an S7 on order... just for kicks. I love shiny new things! But the fun has really ended for me. The noise, the heat, the astronomical electricity bills, the tanking BTC price, the "never-ending race to beat the difficulty increases with new hardware" has worn me out completely. Although I'd be back in the race in a heartbeat if the BTC price was above $500 and on the rise! But then new gear would be much cheaper to buy with my BTC holdings. But this low BTC price just kills any desire I have for shiny new toys. I guess for now I will have to live vicariously through others. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif)
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September 02, 2015, 02:36:43 AM |
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I completely understand the whole "mining is a fun hobby" concept. I think it is/was great fun even if you're not a tweaker geek. I've been ASIC mining pretty much since the start (although I missed the batch 1 Avalons and bet on BFL and bASIC instead, lol). I've quit mining altogether now since the SP20s aren't profitable to run for me anymore. In my dreams, I'd love to have a SFARDS SF100 and an S7 on order... just for kicks. I love shiny new things! But the fun has really ended for me. The noise, the heat, the astronomical electricity bills, the tanking BTC price, the "never-ending race to beat the difficulty increases with new hardware" has worn me out completely. Although I'd be back in the race in a heartbeat if the BTC price was above $500 and on the rise! But then new gear would be much cheaper to buy with my BTC holdings. But this low BTC price just kills any desire I have for shiny new toys. I guess for now I will have to live vicariously through others. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) True, the fun of mining has been ruined by the huge noise and heat an ASIC miner generates. My approach now is to downvolt and downclock the miners so that they can run on very quiet fans and function as a small heater at no higher than 400W power consumption
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September 02, 2015, 02:41:45 AM |
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I completely understand the whole "mining is a fun hobby" concept. I think it is/was great fun even if you're not a tweaker geek. I've been ASIC mining pretty much since the start (although I missed the batch 1 Avalons and bet on BFL and bASIC instead, lol). I've quit mining altogether now since the SP20s aren't profitable to run for me anymore. In my dreams, I'd love to have a SFARDS SF100 and an S7 on order... just for kicks. I love shiny new things! But the fun has really ended for me. The noise, the heat, the astronomical electricity bills, the tanking BTC price, the "never-ending race to beat the difficulty increases with new hardware" has worn me out completely. Although I'd be back in the race in a heartbeat if the BTC price was above $500 and on the rise! But then new gear would be much cheaper to buy with my BTC holdings. But this low BTC price just kills any desire I have for shiny new toys. I guess for now I will have to live vicariously through others. ![Undecided](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/undecided.gif) True, the fun of mining has been ruined by the huge noise and heat an ASIC miner generates. My approach now is to downvolt and downclock the miners so that they can run on very quiet fans and function as a small heater at no higher than 400W power consumption I don't know where you live but where I live it's still summer and I have absolutely no need for a "small heater" yet, lol. It's 8pm and 94f right now. Maybe in 3 months I'll fire up my SP20s again.
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