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September 29, 2015, 01:29:09 PM
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I see the difference on controller on PCI-e going up.  Does the "new" one have 9 slots for blades still I could not tell from picture looks like still nine i'm estimating after looking at it again..

Is there more details as far as the housing?   I guess I would love to see side by sides if anyone happens to have both.


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September 29, 2015, 01:31:27 PM
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Bitmain has updated their site. The AntRouter test is gone, and they've added batch 2 and 3 of the S7.

Interesting that batch 2 is 4.66TH/s for $1585 and batch 2 is 4.86TH/s for $1658. Both ship in the same date range.

So I guess you pay a little more for better performance? Have they ever done that before?

In the past separate batches would have separate ship date ranges, not slightly different specs.

I just wish they'd ship the rest of batch 1. Still waiting for my second order from Sept 5.

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September 29, 2015, 01:44:46 PM
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Bitmain has updated their site. The AntRouter test is gone, and they've added batch 2 and 3 of the S7.

Interesting that batch 2 is 4.66TH/s for $1585 and batch 2 is 4.86TH/s for $1658. Both ship in the same date range.

So I guess you pay a little more for better performance? Have they ever done that before?

In the past separate batches would have separate ship date ranges, not slightly different specs.

I just wish they'd ship the rest of batch 1. Still waiting for my second order from Sept 5.

I also noticed that and am going through the pages to try to find an explanation...
Maybe it will just come clocked higher? Or its a "v1.1" that has more efficient hardware/software support?


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September 29, 2015, 01:47:03 PM
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I just wish they'd ship the rest of batch 1. Still waiting for my second order from Sept 5.

There might be a slight issue with that:

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We'll have National Holiday from Oct. 1 to 7, shipping will resume after we're back to work.

(Bitmain home page).

So you might be getting a Batch 2 miner at a Batch 1 price.
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September 29, 2015, 01:48:39 PM
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Bitmain has updated their site. The AntRouter test is gone, and they've added batch 2 and 3 of the S7.

Interesting that batch 2 is 4.66TH/s for $1585 and batch 2 is 4.86TH/s for $1658. Both ship in the same date range.

So I guess you pay a little more for better performance? Have they ever done that before?

In the past separate batches would have separate ship date ranges, not slightly different specs.

I just wish they'd ship the rest of batch 1. Still waiting for my second order from Sept 5.

I also noticed than and am going through the pages to try to find an explanation...
Maybe it will just come clocked higher? Or its a "v1.1" that has more efficient hardware/software support?
I suspect they have some units with an unacceptable HW error rate at 600MHz so have had to drop the Frequency to 575MHz. Very reminiscent of the S3.

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September 29, 2015, 01:51:02 PM
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I suspect they have some units with an unacceptable HW error rate at 600MHz so have had to drop the Frequency to 575MHz. Very reminiscent of the S3.

Rich


I'm not quite sure, i noticed that beside the header text, all the rest of the info is the same, same J/GH, but also same power draw, so either its just a different clock and they're selling them higher or the Batch 3 just run the higher freq better while also taking the same J/GH.

One of those value is thus wrong. Either the power draw has to be different or the J/GH.


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September 29, 2015, 01:55:27 PM
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They are not the same.

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1. Hash Rate: 4.86 TH/s ±5%

2. Power Consumption: 1210 W (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)

3. Power Efficiency: 0.25 J/GH (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)

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1. Hash Rate: 4.66 TH/s ±5%

2. Power Consumption: 1160 W (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)

3. Power Efficiency: 0.25 J/GH (at the wall, with APW3, 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)

Efficiency will remain the same as shown, however Power consumption is reduced in the 4.66 TH/s unit.

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September 29, 2015, 01:59:08 PM
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We'll have National Holiday from Oct. 1 to 7, shipping will resume after we're back to work.


If my miners aren't shipped by then I am going to be so pissed!



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September 29, 2015, 02:16:13 PM
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Bitmain has updated their site. The AntRouter test is gone, and they've added batch 2 and 3 of the S7.

Interesting that batch 2 is 4.66TH/s for $1585 and batch 2 is 4.86TH/s for $1658. Both ship in the same date range.

So I guess you pay a little more for better performance? Have they ever done that before?

In the past separate batches would have separate ship date ranges, not slightly different specs.

I just wish they'd ship the rest of batch 1. Still waiting for my second order from Sept 5.

JUst batch 2 the price drop 200.. damn. and my batch 1 still haven ship yet.. too bad like that
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September 29, 2015, 02:19:33 PM
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this waiting game is killing me.... I just want what I paid for, in the timeframe it is supposed to be here, and with the specs that it was advertised at lol Sad

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September 29, 2015, 02:20:33 PM
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Bitmain has updated their site. The AntRouter test is gone, and they've added batch 2 and 3 of the S7.

Interesting that batch 2 is 4.66TH/s for $1585 and batch 2 is 4.86TH/s for $1658. Both ship in the same date range.

So I guess you pay a little more for better performance? Have they ever done that before?

In the past separate batches would have separate ship date ranges, not slightly different specs.

I just wish they'd ship the rest of batch 1. Still waiting for my second order from Sept 5.

JUst batch 2 the price drop 200.. damn. and my batch 1 still haven ship yet.. too bad like that

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September 29, 2015, 02:20:55 PM
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I just wish they'd ship the rest of batch 1. Still waiting for my second order from Sept 5.

There might be a slight issue with that:

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We'll have National Holiday from Oct. 1 to 7, shipping will resume after we're back to work.

(Bitmain home page).

So you might be getting a Batch 2 miner at a Batch 1 price.

They had better ship all of batch 1 before the whole company goes on a 1 week vacation. Otherwise there will be some very angry early adopters.

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September 29, 2015, 02:25:46 PM
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Financially in terms of which one to choose, and no guarantees with this maths. Then with 10c electricity and Current Difficulty you will make 29c less profit per Day with the 4.66 TH/s Miner. Saving in purchase price is $73 so that is about 250 Days of mining.  So I guess they have thought about the reduction quite carefully? Smiley  Personally I would probably still go for the 4.86 TH/s Miner as it will probably undervolt better.

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September 29, 2015, 02:28:00 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Week_(China)

Fucking a three day Labor Day with a weekend in the middle, in the US we get a Monday!

Mine better ship before their holiday or I am going to be pissed. They are already taking batch orders 2 and 3 before even shipping people I know where first hour buyers of order 1's.

I sound like my kids, bitching and moaning. Tongue


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September 29, 2015, 02:32:09 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Week_(China)

Fucking a three day Labor Day with a weekend in the middle, in the US we get a Monday!

Mine better ship before their holiday or I am going to be pissed. They are already taking batch orders 2 and 3 before even shipping people I know where first hour buyers of order 1's.

I sound like my kids, bitching and moaning. Tongue


Ufo

They have 1 business day remaining before the holiday and it sounds like 2-3 weeks worth of orders are waiting to be shipped.

I'd like to be wrong (I have a late order too) but I think best you can hope for now is a generous coupon Smiley
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September 29, 2015, 02:39:05 PM
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Week_(China)

Fucking a three day Labor Day with a weekend in the middle, in the US we get a Monday!

Mine better ship before their holiday or I am going to be pissed. They are already taking batch orders 2 and 3 before even shipping people I know where first hour buyers of order 1's.

I sound like my kids, bitching and moaning. Tongue


Ufo

They have 1 business day remaining before the holiday and it sounds like 2-3 weeks worth of orders are waiting to be shipped.

I'd like to be wrong (I have a late order too) but I think best you can hope for now is a generous coupon Smiley

I know, but I (alot of us) have been waiting so long. It reminds me of being a small child and in summer waiting for Christmas in the 1970/80's, it took forever. Instead of Santa, I am waiting for a Chinese assembly line to get back from their labor day to manufacture my miners and do not feeling guilty about it one bit. Miners please Smiley

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September 29, 2015, 03:40:28 PM
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I've got an order from 8/30 and another from 9/18.  Neither has shipped yet and now they are saying they will be shipping batch 2 & 3 beginning 10/15?  And taking a week off!!!  Huh

I really hope they have some amazing packers that can get my orders all shipped off tomorrow before they go on holiday.
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September 29, 2015, 04:09:46 PM
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Soooo disappointed!  My 4 units from day one still haven't shipped...

It is currently midnight on Tuesday with only one work day left before a whole week off.

Does not look good for any of our orders to ship "on time"

Minin', my own business.
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September 29, 2015, 04:13:14 PM
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Up to a point HW errors are not a problem. In fact having 0% HW errors although very nice means that in practice you would be better running the miner at a lower voltage, generating less heat and saving some electricity cost.

When playing with Frequency & Voltage (This is from S5 experience as I do not have an S7) then I usually aim for a HW error rate between .01% & .02% as I find this has no measurable effect on the Hash rate & because there are "some" errors I know that I am not wasting power.

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Thanks for the info.
 
So if the temps are good end you have a low HW you could raise the freqs?
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September 29, 2015, 04:13:32 PM
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People don't realize that they stopped shipping batch 1 because they had this issue with two types of machines (4.86 and 4.66) even in batch 1 as per their email that went to some people. Also, I think that they had a disclaimer for batch 1 that it could be shipped up to 10 days after Sept 30 (or was it 25?). Many people would be upset, though, if they don't ship today or tomorrow.

I hope that what happened is that they noticed that some machines are performing at 4.66, stopped shipping of these machines (and the rest of batch 1), produced more machines, replaced those machines in initial batch 1 that were underperforming with newly produced 4.86 machines, hence some delay in shipping. the underperforming machines from batch 1 might have been renamed "batch 2". the bottom line is that a few days delay in batch shipping 1 might result in those orders having a better chance to be on spec (4.86). This is just my theory.
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