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December 05, 2016, 02:46:32 PM
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In my opinion, Bitcoin is the best investment at the moment. I will consider investing in some good altcoins in the future, like Monero, but at the moment I believe Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency to hold.

Yes bitcoin is the best investment for the types of crypto currency. And my investment has a lot more funded for holding it.

But still I have some of my investments backing up and supporting my needs with trading.

And if you want to join some legit and trusted ICO's you may try to invest with Betking. Just click my signature.
No reason to argue about bitcoin as being the best investment because it's pretty obvious now base on the profitability ratio. Some investment could be less risky but the reward is not as big as bitcoin can offer us, so for small investors we have to gamble for bitcoin for bigger reward.

Gambling is not really a good way to invest your money though. It will just eat up your coins and spit misery. Unless you gamble using faucet dust why not? It's safer to use the money elsewhere than gamble it. I learned this the hard way. I lost more than two Bitcoin trying to get back what I lost. I first thought it was a good investment, until I ended up with nothing to show for it.
At least you learned your lesson some people never learn and they keep chasing money they are over going to recover, so you may take that as an expensive lesson on the dangers of gambling.

Yes, gambling is not guaranteed to give us bigger rewards or profit. That's why instead of gambling your own bitcoins that doesn't have assurance.

You can simply invest with the house and be their investor that will make you in favor of the house.
And you don't need to gamble.

Just like holding of bitcoins, you don't need to do some actions. You need to simply wait for the profit that the site will generate.
There are no guarantees either with investing in the bankroll of a casino, because often times, there are players with extraordinary luck and there are some too with very deep pockets. These type of players leave the house bleeding most often than not and which boils down to eat away chunk of investors money. I have seen a situation, where an investor actually lost it all, because some randy player came along.
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December 05, 2016, 04:52:56 PM
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Yes, gambling is not guaranteed to give us bigger rewards or profit. That's why instead of gambling your own bitcoins that doesn't have assurance.

You can simply invest with the house and be their investor that will make you in favor of the house.
And you don't need to gamble.

Just like holding of bitcoins, you don't need to do some actions. You need to simply wait for the profit that the site will generate.

There are no guarantees either with investing in the bankroll of a casino, because often times, there are players with extraordinary luck and there are some too with very deep pockets. These type of players leave the house bleeding most often than not and which boils down to eat away chunk of investors money. I have seen a situation, where an investor actually lost it all, because some randy player came along.

If the casino bankroll is properly managed, then the chances of the casino going bust are negligible. I'd rather say that the odds of it running away with your money are higher than the odds of its bankroll running dry. If the max win size amounts only to 0.5% of the total bankroll amount, no matter how lucky you are, you won't be able to win more than that with one bet. And with the next bet, you can win only the same 0.5%, notwithstanding the outcome of your previous bet.
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December 05, 2016, 09:13:04 PM
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Yes, gambling is not guaranteed to give us bigger rewards or profit. That's why instead of gambling your own bitcoins that doesn't have assurance.

You can simply invest with the house and be their investor that will make you in favor of the house.
And you don't need to gamble.

Just like holding of bitcoins, you don't need to do some actions. You need to simply wait for the profit that the site will generate.

There are no guarantees either with investing in the bankroll of a casino, because often times, there are players with extraordinary luck and there are some too with very deep pockets. These type of players leave the house bleeding most often than not and which boils down to eat away chunk of investors money. I have seen a situation, where an investor actually lost it all, because some randy player came along.

If the casino bankroll is properly managed, then the chances of the casino going bust are negligible. I'd rather say that the odds of it running away with your money are higher than the odds of its bankroll running dry. If the max win size amounts only to 0.5% of the total bankroll amount, no matter how lucky you are, you won't be able to win more than that with one bet. And with the next bet, you can win only the same 0.5%, notwithstanding the outcome of your previous bet.

I remember certain whale gamblers to have received a ban due to them emptying the entire balance of a certain dice site. I'll try to search for the threads and link them here if I find them. But everything was done to prevent these whales from winning. Even changing the TOS while the whales were playing dice was something that happened. But then again, these whales were playing with balances of tens of thousands of coins. It's very difficult to face a losing streak so long, that it will empty their stash. On most of the dice sites these people aren't welcome.
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December 05, 2016, 09:36:08 PM
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Yes, gambling is not guaranteed to give us bigger rewards or profit. That's why instead of gambling your own bitcoins that doesn't have assurance.

You can simply invest with the house and be their investor that will make you in favor of the house.
And you don't need to gamble.

Just like holding of bitcoins, you don't need to do some actions. You need to simply wait for the profit that the site will generate.

There are no guarantees either with investing in the bankroll of a casino, because often times, there are players with extraordinary luck and there are some too with very deep pockets. These type of players leave the house bleeding most often than not and which boils down to eat away chunk of investors money. I have seen a situation, where an investor actually lost it all, because some randy player came along.

If the casino bankroll is properly managed, then the chances of the casino going bust are negligible. I'd rather say that the odds of it running away with your money are higher than the odds of its bankroll running dry. If the max win size amounts only to 0.5% of the total bankroll amount, no matter how lucky you are, you won't be able to win more than that with one bet. And with the next bet, you can win only the same 0.5%, notwithstanding the outcome of your previous bet.

I remember certain whale gamblers to have received a ban due to them emptying the entire balance of a certain dice site. I'll try to search for the threads and link them here if I find them. But everything was done to prevent these whales from winning. Even changing the TOS while the whales were playing dice was something that happened. But then again, these whales were playing with balances of tens of thousands of coins. It's very difficult to face a losing streak so long, that it will empty their stash. On most of the dice sites these people aren't welcome.

Which sites in particular are you talking about?
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December 06, 2016, 12:08:02 AM
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In my opinion, Bitcoin is the best investment at the moment. I will consider investing in some good altcoins in the future, like Monero, but at the moment I believe Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency to hold.

Yes bitcoin is the best investment for the types of crypto currency. And my investment has a lot more funded for holding it.

But still I have some of my investments backing up and supporting my needs with trading.

And if you want to join some legit and trusted ICO's you may try to invest with Betking. Just click my signature.
No reason to argue about bitcoin as being the best investment because it's pretty obvious now base on the profitability ratio. Some investment could be less risky but the reward is not as big as bitcoin can offer us, so for small investors we have to gamble for bitcoin for bigger reward.
But gambling do not return us with success every time if someone think that he will gamble for to become higher profit and will become rich then he is at lose as gambling is not a way to become rich but if someone want to invest in there like in their ICOs etc then it is a better investment.

Gambling is not a reliable source of income and that is not going to be a good way and considered as investment.

Unless you will invest to their bankroll casino's then that can be good way to get some profit with gambling sites.

But playing alone with your bitcoin, that is not going to be the best thing to do and treat it as your personal investment.
I haven't seen the people was calling gambling can be the primary income for them, it's weird.

You can tell me the best bankroll at this time. No one will be promising at this time.

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December 06, 2016, 08:54:21 PM
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In my opinion, Bitcoin is the best investment at the moment. I will consider investing in some good altcoins in the future, like Monero, but at the moment I believe Bitcoin is the best cryptocurrency to hold.

Yes bitcoin is the best investment for the types of crypto currency. And my investment has a lot more funded for holding it.

But still I have some of my investments backing up and supporting my needs with trading.

And if you want to join some legit and trusted ICO's you may try to invest with Betking. Just click my signature.
No reason to argue about bitcoin as being the best investment because it's pretty obvious now base on the profitability ratio. Some investment could be less risky but the reward is not as big as bitcoin can offer us, so for small investors we have to gamble for bitcoin for bigger reward.
But gambling do not return us with success every time if someone think that he will gamble for to become higher profit and will become rich then he is at lose as gambling is not a way to become rich but if someone want to invest in there like in their ICOs etc then it is a better investment.
i could say that only dumb will be counting on gambling to make their livings and gamble all of their hard earned money until there's no left. gambling is actually was made for fun and not going be able to make out your livings except you're having skill such as predicting the future but it's just a dream man, and that's why i suppose you to be realistic.

That should go without saying but some people can't stop until they lose it all. It seems to be mainly psychological issue like drug addiction. Gambling addicts understand that their addiction can lead to a financial catastrophe, but they still can’t withstand or resist the urge to gamble, even though it can be hurting themselves or their families.
In that case it is the responsibility of his friends to stop him from gambling and also the responsibility of his family they have to make some restrictions on him which will be effective in stopping him from losing money in gambling.
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December 06, 2016, 09:47:16 PM
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Gambling is not a reliable source of income and that is not going to be a good way and considered as investment.

Unless you will invest to their bankroll casino's then that can be good way to get some profit with gambling sites.

But playing alone with your bitcoin, that is not going to be the best thing to do and treat it as your personal investment.
Yes gambling never be an investment and even an investment into gambling site's bankroll will not be safer to be considered as a best investment. Because the gambling model itself is having more pitfalls so by any means it cannot be a best investment type. Maybe having own gambling house and business can be best investment.
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December 07, 2016, 07:45:17 AM
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Maybe having own gambling house and business can be best investment.
Agreed. Always having own business must be the best way to make our capital to work for ourselves. The best investment must be starting a business with our own capital. Because we will be having more dedication when we are working on our own money and it cannot be expected from other people but with our investments.

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December 07, 2016, 08:05:41 AM
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Maybe having own gambling house and business can be best investment.
Agreed. Always having own business must be the best way to make our capital to work for ourselves. The best investment must be starting a business with our own capital. Because we will be having more dedication when we are working on our own money and it cannot be expected from other people but with our investments.
The other benefit of having own business is that we will not work under someone else. We will be our own boss and we will not give control on our money to anyone else but all the profit and success will be dependent on our hard work for the business.
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December 07, 2016, 08:19:49 AM
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The worst investment venture is gambling unless you own the gambling site then it could be profitable but as an end user gambler your doomed to fail.
The best is keeping your bit coin or investing your coins by starting a service with which you will yield.
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December 07, 2016, 08:31:37 AM
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The worst investment venture is gambling unless you own the gambling site then it could be profitable but as an end user gambler your doomed to fail.
The best is keeping your bit coin or investing your coins by starting a service with which you will yield.

that way of thinking is what leads to lots of losses because people think they can make money if they start a new business like a gambling site and as we can see there are lots of gambling sites specially dice sites that keep failing because their owner is not experienced enough and they end up scamming just to make ends meat.

that is why it is wiser if you start small, gather a group of people for brainstorming and as partners and then start small and build the business over time as you gain experience.

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December 07, 2016, 10:15:59 AM
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At a time when global economic growth were down, everyone choose to save their money in long-term deposits. In my opinion, it has not been profitable since the bank interest is also low. The best investment currently is property, after we buy and then rented out.
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December 07, 2016, 10:49:31 AM
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The worst investment venture is gambling unless you own the gambling site then it could be profitable but as an end user gambler your doomed to fail.
The best is keeping your bit coin or investing your coins by starting a service with which you will yield.
i think that keeping your bitcoin is much more good than other investment and i think there is many website who scamming a lot of people so i recommend that holding your bitcoin is very much profitable for current time .
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December 07, 2016, 03:02:15 PM
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If the casino bankroll is properly managed, then the chances of the casino going bust are negligible. I'd rather say that the odds of it running away with your money are higher than the odds of its bankroll running dry. If the max win size amounts only to 0.5% of the total bankroll amount, no matter how lucky you are, you won't be able to win more than that with one bet. And with the next bet, you can win only the same 0.5%, notwithstanding the outcome of your previous bet.

I remember certain whale gamblers to have received a ban due to them emptying the entire balance of a certain dice site. I'll try to search for the threads and link them here if I find them. But everything was done to prevent these whales from winning. Even changing the TOS while the whales were playing dice was something that happened. But then again, these whales were playing with balances of tens of thousands of coins. It's very difficult to face a losing streak so long, that it will empty their stash. On most of the dice sites these people aren't welcome.

I also heard about that too, but they were not big whales but someone rigging the bets by exploiting a bug which allowed to correctly calculate the outcome of the next bet. Big whales could ruin a casino only if it is poorly managed because in a properly managed one their balances will be playing against them. It is not so much about facing a losing streak long enough as looking for a winning streak at the max bet amount.

Do you refer to Betcoin.ag?
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December 07, 2016, 03:08:34 PM
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If I can say, just buy bitcoin everytime you receive your salary consistently. It can be per month or whatever/whenever.
The key is consistent.
You can see the bitcoin price is raising -+ 12% a year.
Then you can calculate this analysis investment.

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December 07, 2016, 03:10:11 PM
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If the casino bankroll is properly managed, then the chances of the casino going bust are negligible. I'd rather say that the odds of it running away with your money are higher than the odds of its bankroll running dry. If the max win size amounts only to 0.5% of the total bankroll amount, no matter how lucky you are, you won't be able to win more than that with one bet. And with the next bet, you can win only the same 0.5%, notwithstanding the outcome of your previous bet.

I remember certain whale gamblers to have received a ban due to them emptying the entire balance of a certain dice site. I'll try to search for the threads and link them here if I find them. But everything was done to prevent these whales from winning. Even changing the TOS while the whales were playing dice was something that happened. But then again, these whales were playing with balances of tens of thousands of coins. It's very difficult to face a losing streak so long, that it will empty their stash. On most of the dice sites these people aren't welcome.

I also heard about that too, but they were not big whales but someone rigging the bets by exploiting a bug which allowed to correctly calculate the outcome of the next bet. Big whales could ruin a casino only if it is poorly managed because in a properly managed one their balances will be playing against them. It is not so much about facing a losing streak long enough as looking for a winning streak at the max bet amount.

Do you refer to Betcoin.ag?

That is certainly true, but I see now betcoin.ag delivers something quite wonderful with the game which can be used by everyone. Even if you assume that the betcoin.ag give it, but I think it is indeed not the only betcoin.ag that can provide it. For all gambling certainly give something of the same thing but just different with the way the game and level, so better do well game and keep trying to control myself
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i could say that only dumb will be counting on gambling to make their livings and gamble all of their hard earned money until there's no left. gambling is actually was made for fun and not going be able to make out your livings except you're having skill such as predicting the future but it's just a dream man, and that's why i suppose you to be realistic.
That should go without saying but some people can't stop until they lose it all. It seems to be mainly psychological issue like drug addiction. Gambling addicts understand that their addiction can lead to a financial catastrophe, but they still can’t withstand or resist the urge to gamble, even though it can be hurting themselves or their families.
In that case it is the responsibility of his friends to stop him from gambling and also the responsibility of his family they have to make some restrictions on him which will be effective in stopping him from losing money in gambling.

It is sort of funny that I just encountered this post made by some hard-core gambler:

Yes I am already enjoying my freedom. I am a hard core gambler and I am able to gamble more freely than ever before just because of using bitcoin payment systems. Now I never need to disclose my personal details to gambling site and no one from my family will come to know that I am spending money for gambling. What else freedom I may need ?

It seems like that with Bitcoin it is not that simple for friends and family members to put restrictions on a game addict, and they might not be very effective in stopping him from wasting money. These dudes can be very inventive, and Bitcoin hits it where it hurts most. Obviously, freedom should be coupled with a lot of personal responsibility.
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December 07, 2016, 04:51:01 PM
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The worst investment venture is gambling unless you own the gambling site then it could be profitable but as an end user gambler your doomed to fail.
The best is keeping your bit coin or investing your coins by starting a service with which you will yield.

that way of thinking is what leads to lots of losses because people think they can make money if they start a new business like a gambling site and as we can see there are lots of gambling sites specially dice sites that keep failing because their owner is not experienced enough and they end up scamming just to make ends meat.

that is why it is wiser if you start small, gather a group of people for brainstorming and as partners and then start small and build the business over time as you gain experience.

i think the idea is good, it needs courage to start one and will give you the best yield, aside from that you have control over the path of your business, decisions is all yours to make. and besides, you also don't know if the investment you made to other company will succeed or not.
Here is a better approach in my opinion,  if you are good in one service and knows everything about the ins and outs of that service, it is wise to put it alone if you have capital to do so.  You do not need an extra head if you  actually knows everything about it.  You can hire people that is good in that field and can get their idea about every situation.  Partners sounds good but lots of partnership gone broken because of the misunderstanding between the co-owner.
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December 09, 2016, 10:46:10 AM
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Yes indeed, hire a professional than having partners.
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December 09, 2016, 12:50:59 PM
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The worst investment venture is gambling unless you own the gambling site then it could be profitable but as an end user gambler your doomed to fail.
The best is keeping your bit coin or investing your coins by starting a service with which you will yield.
There is one known tactics like if we avoid the worst things then we can easily get into best things. In the search of finding out best investment, first we need to identify what are the opportunities we must avoid. Gambling and HYIP are few of them and one simple best investment must be buying bitcoins as per many people here.
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