An apology makes a scammer more trustable?

[Coinnosaurus]

So since Razerglass it's ignoring my pm's I decided to open this thread and to ask you guys , an apology makes a scammer more trustable?
I have shown proofs that he scammed me but he doesn't have red tag yet, what you're waiting guys ? Another scam accusation against him?

PS All proofs are in this thread ,if it's needed I can rewrite them here

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[shorena]

So since Razerglass it's ignoring my pm's I decided to open this thread and to ask you guys , an apology makes a scammer more trustable?
I have shown proofs that he scammed me but he doesn't have red tag yet, what you're waiting guys?

You have shown that you two had a problem communicating clearly. Opening a thread where you present that as "proofs" is not going to help how?

Another scam accusation against him?

Do not open other another thread for an already existing topic.

[Razerglass]

Don't know what your end goal is here my friend, you are unhappy with ANY outcome suggested by the community.

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Don't know what your end goal is here my friend, you are unhappy with ANY outcome suggested by the community.

he is happy with one solution suggested by the community.
I think you are the unhappy one.

[Coinnosaurus]

Don't know what your end goal is here my friend, you are unhappy with ANY outcome suggested by the community.

And again you act like a victim...I've sent you yesterday a PM but you didn't respond



Seeying that you ignore me ,feedback was left accordingly.

Read (again) my post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173574.msg12394565#msg12394565

[Coinnosaurus]

You have shown that you two had a problem communicating clearly. Opening a thread where you present that as "proofs" is not going to help how?

This was also a communication problem?

[Scam Investigator]

Try not to get frustrated Coinnosaurus

I have pointed out many bad things but the people of this site seem brainwashed at times

They won't leave bad trust for someone who seems bad

[Razerglass]

You have shown that you two had a problem communicating clearly. Opening a thread where you present that as "proofs" is not going to help how?

This was also a communication problem?

I guess so.

You sent the code after I said I would be willing to pay you 0.035 for your example.




You said 0.125 for your work and i asked for a example. I got lower offers with the same message sent to everyone. Everyone "got started" on the example for me. You said you started on the example. I said I will be willing to pay 0.035 for the finished product as thats the lowest rate for better quality work. you replied acknowledging my standing 0.035 offer. you delivered the code, I paid my 0.035 like I said I would.

[Coinnosaurus]

I guess so.

You sent the code after I said I would be willing to pay you 0.035 for your example.

I started to work after you said OK (specially for you) and I said that the signature was ALMOST DONE BEFORE you sent me that message saying that you have another offers.

I said I will be willing to pay 0.035 for the finished product as thats the lowest rate for better quality work. you replied acknowledging my standing 0.035 offer. you delivered the code, I paid my 0.035 like I said I would.

Seriously ?? Then why you wrote here 0.125 ?

[Razerglass]

if you want to focus on the trust we have both since withdrawn..

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?

[allyouracid]

You have shown that you two had a problem communicating clearly. Opening a thread where you present that as "proofs" is not going to help how?

This was also a communication problem?

I guess so.

You sent the code after I said I would be willing to pay you 0.035 for your example.




You said 0.125 for your work and i asked for a example. I got lower offers with the same message sent to everyone. Everyone "got started" on the example for me. You said you started on the example. I said I will be willing to pay 0.035 for the finished product as thats the lowest rate for better quality work. you replied acknowledging my standing 0.035 offer. you delivered the code, I paid my 0.035 like I said I would.

May I ask what kind of work you get for a measly rate of 0.03 BTC? I wouldn't even open my IDE for that.

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Just saw that it's about a signature. 0.12 seems more appropriate.

[Razerglass]

if you want to focus on the trust we have both since withdrawn..

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?

This is the message that is causing all the problems. I thought this was a example? It looks like it was photoshop/mspaint. I mean look at all the white spots in it?

How am I supposed to think that this is NOT a example?

[Coinnosaurus]

if you want to focus on the trust we have both since withdrawn..

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?

This is the message that is causing all the problems. I thought this was a example? It looks like it was photoshop/mspaint. I mean look at all the white spots in it?

How am I supposed to think that this is NOT a example?

Thats why I said that the signature was almost done , the underline was not finished and I edited it paint to see if he likes it or I have to remove/change something.

and understood very well what I meant after I sent you this message.

They won't leave bad trust for someone who seems bad

for them...

[Coinnosaurus]

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?

Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen)and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment

[Razerglass]

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?

Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen)and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment

So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.

[Coinnosaurus]

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?

Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen)and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment

So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.

1. You told you would pay 0.035 to another guy after I almost finished the design
2. I didn't care about what offers you had from another guys because we had our deal
3. You said that my design was much better
4. This screens proves that a day before you changed your mind and tried to fool me to keep public donations for your self, you owe me 0.125BTC




What excuses do you have now?

[Razerglass]

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?

Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen)and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment

So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.

1. You told you would pay 0.035 to another guy
2. I didn't care about what offers you had from another guys because we had our deal
3. You said that my design was much better
4. This screens proves that a day before you changed your mind and tried to fool me to keep public donations for your self, you owe me 0.125BTC

Public donations, No sir. I am holding off on the competition till this gets resolved.

You keep trying to redirect this conversation around the point that I said 0.035 Is my offer and you quoted me and said you were almost done and sent the code after. I never agreed to accepting your work for 0.125, I agreed to you giving me a example of what 0.125 work would look like. and before you send me the finished product I said, 0.035 is the going rate I am willing to pay for this. you had no complaint with that, you sent me the code after quoting me acknowledging that I would pay you 0.035. you even left me trusted feedback.

[Coinnosaurus]

I* ask you why did you leave me feedback saying i paid the amount we agreed on if you are now saying that is not the case ?

Are you f**ing high? The amount that we agreed was 0.125BTC (which is clearly shown in this screen)and you paid me only 0.035.

Now I regret that I left the feedback before to get the payment

So you admit you jumped the gun on leaving feedback, kind of like how you jumped the gun on this work I asked for a example on?

I told you I would pay 0.035. After receiving much better examples for that price range. You should of said " no I thought 0.125 " ...  but instead you replied, quoted me... and continued and then eventually sent the code.

1. You told you would pay 0.035 to another guy
2. I didn't care about what offers you had from another guys because we had our deal
3. You said that my design was much better
4. This screens proves that a day before you changed your mind and tried to fool me to keep public donations for your self, you owe me 0.125BTC

Public donations, No sir. I am holding off on the competition till this gets resolved.

You keep trying to redirect this conversation around the point that I said 0.035 Is my offer and you quoted me and said you were almost done and sent the code after. I never agreed to accepting your work for 0.125, I agreed to you giving me a example of what 0.125 work would look like. and before you send me the finished product I said, 0.035 is the going rate I am willing to pay for this. you had no complaint with that, you sent me the code after quoting me acknowledging that I would pay you 0.035. you even left me trusted feedback.

It's obvious that you agreed and wanted to pay me 0.125 (look again at the risked BTC amount please)

You didn't said that you will pay me 0.035 ,you said you had another offer and yes I made a mistake when I left you positive feedback.

[Razerglass]

I had never said I would pay you 0.125
That was your assumption because I acknowledged your price and asked for a example.

I never asked you to do it for 0.125

I did say I would take it for 0.035  and have more work for you. This was the opportunity to decline or accept

[Razerglass]

Coinosaurus is clearly in the wrong here. The signature at the beggining looks way too photoshoped to be real. You can even see the white gap there  . Razerglass clearly said he will pay 0.035 which is allready a lot of money for a signature in my book. I believe that guy sent over the code without verifying just to force Razerglass to pay him and evade the contest while he is at it. Like the famous quote from the X-files said 'trust no one' Razerglass.


Also Coinosaurus  If you werent happy with 0.035 why did you send him the code without double checking to make sure you would get 0.125 and not 0.035 like he said??

Yes exactly. Thats a good point, one I've been trying to get across.