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October 16, 2012, 09:16:05 PM
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Typical EUSSR bureaucratic thinking.

In the EUSSR, if it isn't banned, it's mandatory. Oh, and you can't elect a new government: the "elected" governments in EU member states consist largely of apparatchiks. People who remember eastern Europe, Russia etc. before 1990 will be very familiar with this.

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we so overregulated. it is a shame. I wonder if/when people will hit the streets about it

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October 16, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
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we so overregulated. it is a shame. I wonder if/when people will hit the streets about it

They already have, especially in the southern states! Trouble is, they seem to be protesting "austerity" itself (hang on, isn't a reduction in government spending in and of itself a good thing?) rather than what is, IMO, the real underlying problem, i.e. the sheer corrupt politics and sham economic policies, not to mention that the "austerity" is being done for the benefit of the Banksters and not the "common" people.

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October 16, 2012, 10:25:24 PM
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we so overregulated. it is a shame. I wonder if/when people will hit the streets about it

They already have, especially in the southern states! Trouble is, they seem to be protesting "austerity" itself (hang on, isn't a reduction in government spending in and of itself a good thing?) rather than what is, IMO, the real underlying problem, i.e. the sheer corrupt politics and sham economic policies, not to mention that the "austerity" is being done for the benefit of the Banksters and not the "common" people.
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October 16, 2012, 10:26:10 PM
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we so overregulated. it is a shame. I wonder if/when people will hit the streets about it

They already have, especially in the southern states! Trouble is, they seem to be protesting "austerity" itself (hang on, isn't a reduction in government spending in and of itself a good thing?) rather than what is, IMO, the real underlying problem, i.e. the sheer corrupt politics and sham economic policies, not to mention that the "austerity" is being done for the benefit of the Banksters and not the "common" people.

What you fail to see is that the only austerity going on is raising taxes and not cutting of government expenses

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October 16, 2012, 10:50:32 PM
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"Exactly what the "performance" and energy consumption quote looks like we don't know at the time of writing, "

in short, an article build on fud.

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October 16, 2012, 10:55:28 PM
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we so overregulated. it is a shame. I wonder if/when people will hit the streets about it

They already have, especially in the southern states! Trouble is, they seem to be protesting "austerity" itself (hang on, isn't a reduction in government spending in and of itself a good thing?) rather than what is, IMO, the real underlying problem, i.e. the sheer corrupt politics and sham economic policies, not to mention that the "austerity" is being done for the benefit of the Banksters and not the "common" people.


Corporations getting taxpayer bailouts while the same taxpayers need to live off noodles to survive is a major issue.

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October 16, 2012, 11:11:45 PM
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we so overregulated. it is a shame. I wonder if/when people will hit the streets about it

They already have, especially in the southern states! Trouble is, they seem to be protesting "austerity" itself (hang on, isn't a reduction in government spending in and of itself a good thing?) rather than what is, IMO, the real underlying problem, i.e. the sheer corrupt politics and sham economic policies, not to mention that the "austerity" is being done for the benefit of the Banksters and not the "common" people.


Corporations getting taxpayer bailouts while the same taxpayers need to live off noodles to survive is a major issue.
Why?  If the taxpayers are agreeing to work at a wage that only allows them noodles to live off of, isn't that their problem?
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October 16, 2012, 11:36:53 PM
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There is a good reason why the United Kingdom, wants out of Europe, it's stupid crap like this we've put up with ever since we join have had the pleasure of being the first countries basically funded these idiots who come up with this crap and go around telling everyone in europe what to do, even when it clearly makes no sense.

Yes, I can see energy efficient computers a noble goal. It's something I do consider when designing a server, or usually opting for a laptop rather than a tower PC for my next work computer.
Do I think it should be some kind of law or regulation that can mean if you don't abide to it, you can't sell in europe, not really.
However I could atleast understand it, if it was at least measured by the thing you are trying to lower, the energy it uses.

Memory Bandwidth doesn't directly correlate to energy use, it shouldn't even be part of the equation. I would of respected them an ounce more (it's very low as it is), if they had atleast set the standards based in wattage increments of the TDP, from say 15-150W, maybe a nice little bonus for those who's sleep mode can operate under 2.5W for example. At least that would of made abit more sense, clearly they haven't consulted any experts.
It's still very stupid and on average the previous generation of GPU's have became more energy efficient, just like CPU's have. Their Power hasn't increased that much over the years, they have mostly increased in energy efficiency, so they can't make out they needed to force them to do this. They are making this progression on their own, so why come up with this in the first place?

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October 16, 2012, 11:44:43 PM
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Corporations getting taxpayer bailouts while the same taxpayers need to live off noodles to survive is a major issue.

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Absolutely this is. But on the streets we hear mostly chants of "stop the cuts!"

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October 17, 2012, 05:47:17 AM
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Nuts. Hopefully the big two are putting some money toward lobbyists.
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October 18, 2012, 09:24:43 PM
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All that the future cards will need is to be designed by default to operate in a lower power eco-green-earthy mode.  Who wouldn't like that, right?  You could even use these future gaming beasts in eco-mode with one PCI-e power connector instead of two (the green colored one is the one you'd use, of course) Tongue.

In EU countries, the non-green one could be covered with tape or something saying "Don't remove this!!! BAD! NO NO!"

Then include a simple software or firmware utility for all non-EU customers to UNLEASH THE BEAST. After pressing "I accept" to prove that you're not in an EU country, then it's all good, and you can game just like anywhere else in the world  Grin

I'm sure nobody will find a way to smuggle such software into the EU.

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October 18, 2012, 09:31:42 PM
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And they also banned 100W light bulbs.

The problem with this is that the replacement bulbs (compact fluorescent) fail in enclosed fixtures; especially in high-temperature locations. They also use mercury, which is more hazardous than tunsgten.

I hate the EU for that.
The solution for me is using fixtures with multiple light-bulbs where I can. And I have recently came up with a way for "smuggling" 100W bulbs out of Eastern Europe.  Cheesy


Anyways the European Union is the worst conglomeration of useless Bureaucrats ever, I can't wait for it's collapse.

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October 18, 2012, 09:55:39 PM
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We have an awesome grocery store here that sells 8 packs of Sylvania bulbs for a buck. So I can easily stock up for a great price.

They also sell their brand of LED lighting for $10 a pop (insanely cheap). Still too expensive, IMHO.

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October 18, 2012, 09:59:00 PM
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We have an awesome grocery store here that sells 8 packs of Sylvania bulbs for a buck. So I can easily stock up for a great price.

They also sell their brand of LED lighting for $10 a pop (insanely cheap). Still too expensive, IMHO.



The problem with LED bulbs is they don't have a good CRI rating. There are ways to archive a decent color rendering if multiple LEDs with different wavelengths are used but there isn't affordable solution for home use yet, except DIY.

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October 20, 2012, 02:07:13 PM
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We're talking about the people who think they can regulate how bent a banana should be..

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bent_banana_regulation

"bananas sold as unripened, green bananas should be green and unripened, firm and intact, fit for human consumption, not rotten, clean, free of pests and damage from pests, free from deformation or abnormal curvature, free from bruising, free of any foreign smell or taste"

The horror!

People on this board make up so much bullshit every time any government or regulation is mentioned, this is like the third time I've had to defend one simply on common sense, and I'm an anarchist lol.

All the complete nonsense that gets thrown around here is not doing us any favours.
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October 20, 2012, 02:08:58 PM
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European Union is run by homosexuals.

...thanks?? I thought it was run by laws and votes.
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October 20, 2012, 02:36:55 PM
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European Union is run by homosexuals.

...thanks?? I thought it was run by laws and votes.

Unelected, appointed Commissioners actually, but who cares about their sexuality anyway?

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October 20, 2012, 03:20:41 PM
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I'm not saying this is true, but it really wouldn't surprise me if it is.

The likelihood of the euro zone even still being around in 2014 isn't all that high at this point, I wouldn't worry too much.
Euro zone != EU. Also, I don't think your prediction will hold true, unfortunately.
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October 21, 2012, 12:37:07 PM
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wonder when the time will come, the ppl need to stand up and let it be known that we dont want shit like the EU or NAU in our lives...
wont be long til they implement a union in asia eather i guess...

most ppl here in norway have said no in the past and still say no to this day, but the gov is still pushing hard to make it in... police state fml

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