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October 16, 2012, 08:47:29 PM
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How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them? I am becoming more convinced we are dealing with an organization here a la Bavarian Illuminati, who started many of the world's revolutions.

If we can prove that there is no consistency among the communications of Nakamoto, we can prove that Bitcoin's first implementation is the work of many anonymous individuals.

People have said that Satoshi Nakamoto has been very hard to communicate with. The software has been said to be beyond the work of one person.

Let's settle this once and for all.

Update: http://www.fastcompany.com/1785445/bitcoin-crypto-currency-mystery-reopened
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October 16, 2012, 08:51:41 PM
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Let's settle this once and for all.

Irrelevant and pointless. I mean name a single good reason why it would matter?

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October 16, 2012, 08:52:55 PM
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Let's settle this once and for all.

Irrelevant and pointless. I mean name a single good reason why it would matter?

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October 16, 2012, 08:53:48 PM
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Let's settle this once and for all.

Irrelevant and pointless. I mean name a single good reason why it would matter?

For history's sake. Historians make a living at this kind of thing.

Hmm, Hazek, you wouldn't happen to be associated with Satoshi Nakamoto, would you?
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October 16, 2012, 08:58:01 PM
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Let's settle this once and for all.

Irrelevant and pointless. I mean name a single good reason why it would matter?

Irrelevant and pointless. A human doesn't need a reason to know the truth.
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October 16, 2012, 08:58:14 PM
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The third time, Casascius is Satoshi Nakamoto. Everything from timing to ability, style and motive matches.

But I or anybody else can't prove it, so it might as well be somebody else or multiple people.

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October 16, 2012, 09:01:23 PM
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The third time, Casascius is Satoshi Nakamoto. Everything from timing to ability, style and motive matches.

But I or anybody else can't prove it, so it might as well be somebody else or multiple people.

It's the 3rd time u mention that Satoshi = Casascius. I got why u do it. U try to hide that Satoshi is YOU!
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October 16, 2012, 09:03:05 PM
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The third time, Casascius is Satoshi Nakamoto. Everything from timing to ability, style and motive matches.

But I or anybody else can't prove it, so it might as well be somebody else or multiple people.

It's the 3rd time u mention that Satoshi = Casascius. I got why u do it. U try to hide that Satoshi is YOU!

That would be really nice if it were true Smiley

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October 16, 2012, 09:06:35 PM
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I thought Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for more than one person. I just don't think you can do a simple semantic equation with 'his' writings to find true similarities. I wouldn't expect that from top cryptographers.
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October 16, 2012, 09:08:50 PM
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How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them?
Writing analysis is remarkably easy to cheat.  The easiest way is to impersonate someone else's writing style.  E.g. some author or journalist.

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October 16, 2012, 09:17:15 PM
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How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them?

Someone already did it. I read about it more than a year ago, but can't find that paper now.
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October 16, 2012, 09:33:58 PM
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The analysis first must answer is Satoshi a single person or group. Or probably group that used only single spokesperson. As far as I know only Seppuku Fujitsu used Satoshi's identity to communicate.
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The software has been said to be beyond the work of one person.
Not all programmers are noobs. The original client is very well written but I have seen even more impressive code made by single person.

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October 16, 2012, 09:42:38 PM
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How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them?

Someone already did it. I read about it more than a year ago, but can't find that paper now.
Have any defunct links for it?
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October 16, 2012, 09:49:32 PM
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For history's sake. Historians make a living at this kind of thing.

Historians make a living a)Teaching new historians and 2)Selling cars and real estate.

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October 16, 2012, 09:52:44 PM
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How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them?

Someone already did it. I read about it more than a year ago, but can't find that paper now.
Have any defunct links for it?

http://www.fastcompany.com/1785445/bitcoin-crypto-currency-mystery-reopened

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I started with some amateur textual analysis of Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin paper, extracting fragments of phrases and running them through Google. I figured I'd see if any of the ones in the paper appear elsewhere online. People tend to repeat themselves. The trick is to plug in unique-sounding fragments and place them in quotes. That way you only get a handful of results to comb through. I struck out on the first few, which all appeared solely in the Bitcoin paper, and there was one irrelevant link. Then I tried the term "computationally impractical to reverse." It resulted in 26 results...

EDIT: ...and some info here - http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2011/10/10/111010fa_fact_davis
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October 16, 2012, 09:53:30 PM
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How can we get a writing analysis done on all of Satoshi's written works to see if there is consistency among them?

Someone already did it. I read about it more than a year ago, but can't find that paper now.
Have any defunct links for it?

http://www.fastcompany.com/1785445/bitcoin-crypto-currency-mystery-reopened

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I started with some amateur textual analysis of Satoshi Nakamoto's Bitcoin paper, extracting fragments of phrases and running them through Google. I figured I'd see if any of the ones in the paper appear elsewhere online. People tend to repeat themselves. The trick is to plug in unique-sounding fragments and place them in quotes. That way you only get a handful of results to comb through. I struck out on the first few, which all appeared solely in the Bitcoin paper, and there was one irrelevant link. Then I tried the term "computationally impractical to reverse." It resulted in 26 results...

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October 16, 2012, 10:33:17 PM
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Limechat is a well known IRC client, especially on iOS.
Many devs in the core team use a Mac to code and communicate via IRC.
The publisher of Limechat is a developper named Satoshi Nakagawa.
Any other question ?

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October 17, 2012, 12:29:50 AM
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Casascius is a reasonable person but I probably remember that moronic Bitcoin 2.0 proposal too. Such scamcoin 2.0 proposals pop up from time to time but for most part they are a result of spending too many bitcoins on Silk Road weed, not attempt to hide who is Satoshi.

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October 17, 2012, 01:06:25 AM
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I am becoming more convinced we are dealing with an organization here a la Bavarian Illuminati, who started many of the world's revolutions...

Ooookay...     


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October 17, 2012, 02:03:21 AM
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The third time, Casascius is Satoshi Nakamoto. Everything from timing to ability, style and motive matches.

But I or anybody else can't prove it, so it might as well be somebody else or multiple people.

I remember a thread Casascius started, way back when, about his idea for Bitcoin 2.0 (because of the early adopter having too many easily gained Bitcoins). His idea had something to do with the block reward being based on difficulty, and you would be able to convert your Bitcoins into Bitcoin 2.0 by destroying them. The early low difficulty coins would exchange for fewer Bitcoin 2.0 and the later high difficulty coins would exchange for more.

This is all going from memory, apologies if I made a mistake somewhere.

Anyway, I suppose his motive for making such a suggestion and being so adamant about it (at the time) was to help hide his identity?

I also remember when he quit Bitcoin because of perceived conflicts with his profession (something about handling payrolls). I guess that was a clever ruse as well!

Edit: It wasn't Bitcoin 2.0, it was something like Bitcoin+.

I don't think Mike is Satoshi...lol. Mike is a guy with a well known full name and address. Sure, he's clever, but clearly we have lots of clever folks in our community and we don't think them all to be Satoshi. Also, I presume Satoshi is rich. If Mike were rich, he would hire people to write his code Smiley

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