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March 20, 2016, 08:58:27 PM
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Ra6: 2 votes (newb4now, XMRpromotioms)

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March 21, 2016, 12:06:08 AM
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Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Ra6. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

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Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:
Code:
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne2 35.Rh2 Nd4 36.Rf2 b5 37.Kb1 Ra8 38.Ne4 Ra6
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March 21, 2016, 12:58:39 AM
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I know this is going to sound like a bad idea, but we need to put the King into action.

Kc1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

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March 21, 2016, 04:49:09 AM
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I know this is going to sound like a bad idea, but we need to put the King into action.

Kc1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

I think after Kc1 Nxf5 we are close to losing. Unfortunately I cannot find any good alternatives. I considered Rf1, b4, Ng3 and Nc5. They are all bad.

Activating our King is a good idea, but we probably missed a few opportunities to play more active earlier:
The key to this endgame is piece activity. Good luck to both teams.

39.Ng3 Rc6 illustrates this point well. We defend f5 for another move but find ourselves in zugzwang! 40.Rf1 would allow Rc2, other rook or knight move loses a pawn, b4 loses to Rc4 and Ka1 of course loses to Rc1 checkmate. Our kingside pawn structure made things difficult but we definitely should have found a way to play more actively.

Kc1: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, boolberry)

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March 21, 2016, 03:40:21 PM
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I know this is going to sound like a bad idea, but we need to put the King into action.

Kc1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

I think after Kc1 Nxf5 we are close to losing. Unfortunately I cannot find any good alternatives. I considered Rf1, b4, Ng3 and Nc5. They are all bad.

Activating our King is a good idea, but we probably missed a few opportunities to play more active earlier:
The key to this endgame is piece activity. Good luck to both teams.

39.Ng3 Rc6 illustrates this point well. We defend f5 for another move but find ourselves in zugzwang! 40.Rf1 would allow Rc2, other rook or knight move loses a pawn, b4 loses to Rc4 and Ka1 of course loses to Rc1 checkmate. Our kingside pawn structure made things difficult but we definitely should have found a way to play more actively.

Kc1: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, boolberry)

Since Ng3 loses and we are losing f5 anyway why not play Nc5 and prevent the black rook from using the c file?

Kc1: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, boolberry)
Nc5: 1 vote (LucyLovesCrypto)
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March 21, 2016, 06:07:59 PM
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I know this is going to sound like a bad idea, but we need to put the King into action.

Kc1: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

I think after Kc1 Nxf5 we are close to losing. Unfortunately I cannot find any good alternatives. I considered Rf1, b4, Ng3 and Nc5. They are all bad.

Activating our King is a good idea, but we probably missed a few opportunities to play more active earlier:
The key to this endgame is piece activity. Good luck to both teams.

39.Ng3 Rc6 illustrates this point well. We defend f5 for another move but find ourselves in zugzwang! 40.Rf1 would allow Rc2, other rook or knight move loses a pawn, b4 loses to Rc4 and Ka1 of course loses to Rc1 checkmate. Our kingside pawn structure made things difficult but we definitely should have found a way to play more actively.

Kc1: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, boolberry)

Since Ng3 loses and we are losing f5 anyway why not play Nc5 and prevent the black rook from using the c file?

Kc1: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, boolberry)
Nc5: 1 vote (LucyLovesCrypto)

That's an interesting move, but then we need to play b4 to keep the Knight there, and then we have yet another pawn to protect Smiley

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March 21, 2016, 07:13:45 PM
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Kc1: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, boolberry)
Nc5: 1 vote (LucyLovesCrypto)
resign: 1 vote (languagehasmeaning)
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March 22, 2016, 12:24:17 AM
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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play Kc1. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

black to move


Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:
Code:
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne2 35.Rh2 Nd4 36.Rf2 b5 37.Kb1 Ra8 38.Ne4 Ra6 39.Kc1
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March 22, 2016, 05:30:32 PM
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Nxf5: 1 vote (XMRpromotions)

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March 22, 2016, 09:44:38 PM
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Nxf5: 1 vote (XMRpromotions)
Rc6+: 1 vote (mathgal23)
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March 22, 2016, 10:13:56 PM
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Nxf5: 2 votes (XMRpromotions, newb4now)
Rc6+: 1 vote (mathgal23)
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March 23, 2016, 12:02:07 AM
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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Nxf5. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

white to move


Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:
Code:
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne2 35.Rh2 Nd4 36.Rf2 b5 37.Kb1 Ra8 38.Ne4 Ra6 39.Kc1 Nxf5


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March 23, 2016, 12:12:57 AM
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I was hoping for 39.Kc1 Nxb3 40.axb3 a2 41.Rxa2 Rxa2 43.Nxf6

We are running out of tricks. Defending with 41.Rh2 Nd4 42.Rh3 Rc6+ seems hopeless

I think Rc2 activating or rook is our best chance for those not yet ready to resign.

Rc2: 1 vote (boolberry)
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March 23, 2016, 08:00:22 PM
Last edit: March 23, 2016, 08:59:52 PM by GoldTiger69
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I was hoping for 39.Kc1 Nxb3 40.axb3 a2 41.Rxa2 Rxa2 43.Nxf6

We are running out of tricks. Defending with 41.Rh2 Nd4 42.Rh3 Rc6+ seems hopeless

I think Rc2 activating or rook is our best chance for those not yet ready to resign.

Rc2: 1 vote (boolberry)

Edit: Thinking better, I want to propose this:


Rc2: 1 vote (boolberry)
Kd2: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

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March 23, 2016, 11:46:37 PM
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I was hoping for 39.Kc1 Nxb3 40.axb3 a2 41.Rxa2 Rxa2 43.Nxf6

We are running out of tricks. Defending with 41.Rh2 Nd4 42.Rh3 Rc6+ seems hopeless

I think Rc2 activating or rook is our best chance for those not yet ready to resign.

Rc2: 1 vote (boolberry)

Edit: Thinking better, I want to propose this:


Rc2: 1 vote (boolberry)
Kd2: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

Rc2: 1 vote (boolberry)
Kd2: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, LucyLovesCrypto)

At least our King is out of the corner:)
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March 24, 2016, 12:44:19 AM
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Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play Kd2. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

black to move


Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:
Code:
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne2 35.Rh2 Nd4 36.Rf2 b5 37.Kb1 Ra8 38.Ne4 Ra6 39.Kc1 Nxf5 40.Kd2

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March 24, 2016, 01:18:02 AM
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Cryptonote technical discussion:

Monero yesterday completed its first planned hard fork, implementing several changes:

1. Block time 1 minute -> 2 minutes (with block reward also doubled)

2. Minimum block size increased to 60 KB (50% increase from the previous 20 KB considering the block time change)

3. Minimum mixin requirement on all transactions (with some special exceptions for existing "dust")

4. No new "dust" allowed.

There were some minor glitches with forks of the pool software (though the original open source software apparently works fine), but other than that everything seems to have gone well.

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March 24, 2016, 04:19:48 AM
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Cryptonote technical discussion:

Monero yesterday completed its first planned hard fork, implementing several changes:

1. Block time 1 minute -> 2 minutes (with block reward also doubled)

2. Minimum block size increased to 60 KB (50% increase from the previous 20 KB considering the block time change)

3. Minimum mixin requirement on all transactions (with some special exceptions for existing "dust")

4. No new "dust" allowed.

There were some minor glitches with forks of the pool software (though the original open source software apparently works fine), but other than that everything seems to have gone well.



This is an important milestone for Monero. All of the changes above would be very controversial and difficult for Bitcoin to adopt.
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March 24, 2016, 04:21:58 AM
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White wants to play Kc3 and Kb4. We can stop that now with Rc6 and collect the h5 pawn later.

Rc6: 1 vote (XMRChina)
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March 24, 2016, 10:48:25 PM
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Rc6: 2 votes (XMRChina, XMRpromotions)

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