CryptoNote technical discussion and Chess Challenge

[mathgal23]

Rc6: 2 votes (XMRChina, XMRpromotions)
Kxh5: 1 vote (mathgal23)

[mathgal23]

3. Minimum mixin requirement on all transactions (with some special exceptions for existing "dust")

4. No new "dust" allowed.

Where can I find the definition of "dust"?

[boolberry]

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Rc6. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

white to move


Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:

Code:

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne2 35.Rh2 Nd4 36.Rf2 b5 37.Kb1 Ra8 38.Ne4 Ra6 39.Kc1 Nxf5 40.Kd2 Rc6

[boolberry]

I am out of productive ideas. If you have them please share. We are about to be 2 pawns down, still with pieces less active than our opponents.

Resign: 1 vote (boolberry)

[smooth]

3. Minimum mixin requirement on all transactions (with some special exceptions for existing "dust")

4. No new "dust" allowed.

Where can I find the definition of "dust"?

Mostly in the code.

The idea is anything not conforming to N * 10^M where N is 1-9 and M is an integer.

Since these values are limited in number within the range of plausible amounts (a total of 181 are currently possible but some of these are implausible) there will always be available outputs of the same size to mix with, in turn allowing mixing to be required.

Unfortunately there were a few edge cases not handled correctly and some new dust will be created in some cases, but the amount will be vastly reduced. This will need to be cleaned up in the next fork.

The other definition, of amounts that are simply "small" (such as 10^-12) we are allowing to be handled on an economic level for now. For example, miners are allowed to claim less than the full reward if they like, which means they can exclude the very small outputs. This makes their coinbase transaction smaller, which means it will verify and propagate faster (and of course leaves more room for fee-paying transactions). By default this is cutoff at 10^-5 but that is not forced, if miners disagree with that value they can change it.

[GoldTiger69]

b4: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

[LucyLovesCrypto]

resign: 1 vote (boolberry)
b4: 2 votes (GoldTiger69, LucyLovesCrypto)

Karjaken and Caruana leading the Candidates tournament with 7/12

2 rounds to go

http://worldchess.com/

[boolberry]

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play b4. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

black to move


Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:

Code:

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne2 35.Rh2 Nd4 36.Rf2 b5 37.Kb1 Ra8 38.Ne4 Ra6 39.Kc1 Nxf5 40.Kd2 Rc6 41.b4

[newb4now]

Kxh5: 1 vote (newb4now)

[newb4now]

3. Minimum mixin requirement on all transactions (with some special exceptions for existing "dust")

4. No new "dust" allowed.

Where can I find the definition of "dust"?

Mostly in the code.

The idea is anything not conforming to N * 10^M where N is 1-9 and M is an integer.

Since these values are limited in number within the range of plausible amounts (a total of 181 are currently possible but some of these are implausible) there will always be available outputs of the same size to mix with, in turn allowing mixing to be required.

Unfortunately there were a few edge cases not handled correctly and some new dust will be created in some cases, but the amount will be vastly reduced. This will need to be cleaned up in the next fork.

The other definition, of amounts that are simply "small" (such as 10^-12) we are allowing to be handled on an economic level for now. For example, miners are allowed to claim less than the full reward if they like, which means they can exclude the very small outputs. This makes their coinbase transaction smaller, which means it will verify and propagate faster (and of course leaves more room for fee-paying transactions). By default this is cutoff at 10^-5 but that is not forced, if miners disagree with that value they can change it.

Can you compare/contrast this with how Aeon handles dust both now and plans for the future (if different)?

[mathgal23]

Kxh5: 1 vote (newb4now)

Kxh5: 2 votes (newb4now, mathgal23)

[boolberry]

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Monero has chosen to play Kxh5. Now it is time for Team Boolberry to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

white to move


Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:

Code:

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne2 35.Rh2 Nd4 36.Rf2 b5 37.Kb1 Ra8 38.Ne4 Ra6 39.Kc1 Nxf5 40.Kd2 Rc6 41.b4 Kxh5

[GoldTiger69]

Kd3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)

[LucyLovesCrypto]

Kd3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nc5: 1 vote (LucyLovesCrypto)

[languagehasmeaning]

Kd3: 1 vote (GoldTiger69)
Nc5: 1 vote (LucyLovesCrypto)
resign: 1 vote (languagehasmeaning)

Karjakin is well positioned to win the Candidates Tournament. Due to better tiebreaks than Caruana and Anand he only needs a draw with white in the last round to clinch victory.

[boolberry]

3. Minimum mixin requirement on all transactions (with some special exceptions for existing "dust")

4. No new "dust" allowed.

Where can I find the definition of "dust"?

Mostly in the code.

The idea is anything not conforming to N * 10^M where N is 1-9 and M is an integer.

Since these values are limited in number within the range of plausible amounts (a total of 181 are currently possible but some of these are implausible) there will always be available outputs of the same size to mix with, in turn allowing mixing to be required.

Unfortunately there were a few edge cases not handled correctly and some new dust will be created in some cases, but the amount will be vastly reduced. This will need to be cleaned up in the next fork.

The other definition, of amounts that are simply "small" (such as 10^-12) we are allowing to be handled on an economic level for now. For example, miners are allowed to claim less than the full reward if they like, which means they can exclude the very small outputs. This makes their coinbase transaction smaller, which means it will verify and propagate faster (and of course leaves more room for fee-paying transactions). By default this is cutoff at 10^-5 but that is not forced, if miners disagree with that value they can change it.

I will add a link to this post in the OP. Please let me know if there is some Aeon content I should add there too

[boolberry]

Current position
Based on the votes in this thread Team Boolberry has chosen to play Kd3. Now it is time for Team Monero to respond. I will plan to count votes again tomorrow at approximately 0:00 UTC.

black to move


Team Boolberry (white pieces) vs. Team Monero (black pieces)
Game 2 PGN:

Code:

1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 g6 3.c4 Bg7 4.Nc3 O-O 5.e4 d6 6.Be2 e5 7.d5 a5 8.Bg5 h6 9.Be3 Na6 10.h3 Nh5 11.Qd2 Nf4 12.O-O-O Nxg2 13.Bxh6 Bxh6 14.Qxh6 Qf6 15.Kb1 Nf4 16.Nd2 Nc5 17.h4 a4 18.h5 Qg7 19.Qg5 a3 20.b3 f6 21.Qg3 g5 22.Rdg1 Qh7 23.Bg4 Bxg4 24.Qxg4 c6 25.Qf5 Qxf5 26.exf5 Kh7 27.Nde4 Nxe4 28.Nxe4 cxd5 29.cxd5 Kh6 30.Rd1 Ra5 31.Nxd6 Rxd5 32.Rxd5 Nxd5 33.f3 Nc3+ 34.Ka1 Ne2 35.Rh2 Nd4 36.Rf2 b5 37.Kb1 Ra8 38.Ne4 Ra6 39.Kc1 Nxf5 40.Kd2 Rc6 41.b4 Kxh5 42.Kd3

[boolberry]

OP has been updated with some new CryptoNote content (from Monero)

If anyone has new content or links for Aeon (or other CryptoNote projects) or competing technologies such as ZCash please let me know and I can add more links to the OP.

[newb4now]

Lets protect f6 and free our rook offensive duties.

Kg6: 1 vote (newb4now)

[XMRpromotions]

Karjaken and Caruana leading the Candidates tournament with 7/12

2 rounds to go

http://worldchess.com/

Congratulations Sergey! Good luck against Magnus
https://www.chess.com/news/karjakin-wins-candidates-tournament-qualifies-for-world-title-match-7629

Kg6: 2 votes (newb4now, XMRpromotions)