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Question: Nasa Major Announcement Regarding Mars On the 28th: What Will It be?  (Voting closed: September 28, 2015, 04:53:03 PM)
Water on Mars. Plenty of it - 7 (43.8%)
Micro organism found. Life - 2 (12.5%)
Fossilized living "things" found. Life, but in the distant past - 3 (18.8%)
A 2 million year old human skull found, with a bullet hole in it - 4 (25%)
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September 29, 2015, 04:31:02 PM
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts.  

Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet?


You are making no sense now.  Please state your premises and supporting evidence.  I am tired of looney Youtube links.

So you didn't want to watch the NASA engineer talk about the Van Allen belts in the first video?

And you didn't watch the other man in NASA in "space" talking about how they can't get through the Van Allen belts and right now we can only fly in earth orbit and we "could" go to the moon if we could get through them?

Keep your eyes closed, then.
I'm only simply asking that you produce facts, and figures to support your opinions instead of Youtube videos.  No, I don't care to watch your videos and the idea that Youtube videos are some kind of "proof" is laughable.

Astrophysics is a science.  Buy a textbook or two.
Van Allen belts are well studied.  Look up the facts.  From a simple Wikipedia 1 minute check.

The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts.....Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field.

The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the United States Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity.


Emissions from the Sun are a major danger, not the Van Allen belts.

This is so funny, lol.

I said people from NASA said we haven't been through the Van Allen belts. The proof that they said it is in the videos.

I'm not arguing about whether or not we can. I'm not trying to prove we can or can't. But it's funny you think I am. I'm telling you the people from NASA said we can't. Why did they say that?
I'm not concerned about some video that you think says something.  You may have misunderstood it, their words may be taken out of context, whatever.   "One person from NASA talking" is not "NASA."

This isn't rocket science.

Yeah... it's not. I said these quotes -

"Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet?" (video links showing people at NASA saying it)

"I said people from NASA said we haven't been through the Van Allen belts."

I didn't say NASA said it in some sort of official document. I never claimed that. Please read next time.
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September 29, 2015, 06:17:01 PM
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts.  

Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet?


You are making no sense now.  Please state your premises and supporting evidence.  I am tired of looney Youtube links.

So you didn't want to watch the NASA engineer talk about the Van Allen belts in the first video?

And you didn't watch the other man in NASA in "space" talking about how they can't get through the Van Allen belts and right now we can only fly in earth orbit and we "could" go to the moon if we could get through them?

Keep your eyes closed, then.
I'm only simply asking that you produce facts, and figures to support your opinions instead of Youtube videos.  No, I don't care to watch your videos and the idea that Youtube videos are some kind of "proof" is laughable.

Astrophysics is a science.  Buy a textbook or two.
Van Allen belts are well studied.  Look up the facts.  From a simple Wikipedia 1 minute check.

The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts.....Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field.

The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the United States Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity.


Emissions from the Sun are a major danger, not the Van Allen belts.

This is so funny, lol.

I said people from NASA said we haven't been through the Van Allen belts. The proof that they said it is in the videos.

I'm not arguing about whether or not we can. I'm not trying to prove we can or can't. But it's funny you think I am. I'm telling you the people from NASA said we can't. Why did they say that?
I'm not concerned about some video that you think says something.  You may have misunderstood it, their words may be taken out of context, whatever.   "One person from NASA talking" is not "NASA."

This isn't rocket science.

Yeah... it's not. I said these quotes -

"Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet?" (video links showing people at NASA saying it)

"I said people from NASA said we haven't been through the Van Allen belts."

I didn't say NASA said it in some sort of official document. I never claimed that. Please read next time.
Here is the BS you are now backtracking on.

If you believe NASA.....

DID SPACE.COM ADMIT WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON?

NASA Admits
They Can't Send Humans Through The Van Allen Radiation Belts


Carry on!

But since you brought the subject up, let's explore it a bit.

1.  Do you now, or have you ever, held the belief in whole or part, that the US did not put men on the Lunar surface?
2.  Do you now, or have you ever, held the belief in whole or part, that the US did not have spaceships that move men through the Van Allen radiation belt?
3.  Do you have, or have you ever, an official Moon Denial card?
4.  Are you in reality a secret operative from the Nazi Lunar Base on the far side of the Moon?
5.  As a secret operative of the NLB, have you sworn to use propaganda Youtube links to sow confusion and mistrust of Diet Pepsi?

I await your answers. 
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September 29, 2015, 06:26:18 PM
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Yes, actually we can and have sent humans through the Van Allen belts.  

Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet?


You are making no sense now.  Please state your premises and supporting evidence.  I am tired of looney Youtube links.

So you didn't want to watch the NASA engineer talk about the Van Allen belts in the first video?

And you didn't watch the other man in NASA in "space" talking about how they can't get through the Van Allen belts and right now we can only fly in earth orbit and we "could" go to the moon if we could get through them?

Keep your eyes closed, then.
I'm only simply asking that you produce facts, and figures to support your opinions instead of Youtube videos.  No, I don't care to watch your videos and the idea that Youtube videos are some kind of "proof" is laughable.

Astrophysics is a science.  Buy a textbook or two.
Van Allen belts are well studied.  Look up the facts.  From a simple Wikipedia 1 minute check.

The Apollo missions marked the first event where humans traveled through the Van Allen belts.....Astronauts' overall exposure was actually dominated by solar particles once outside Earth's magnetic field.

The total radiation received by the astronauts varied from mission to mission but was measured to be between 0.16 and 1.14 rads (1.6 and 11.4 mGy), much less than the standard of 5 rem (50 mSv) per year set by the United States Atomic Energy Commission for people who work with radioactivity.


Emissions from the Sun are a major danger, not the Van Allen belts.

This is so funny, lol.

I said people from NASA said we haven't been through the Van Allen belts. The proof that they said it is in the videos.

I'm not arguing about whether or not we can. I'm not trying to prove we can or can't. But it's funny you think I am. I'm telling you the people from NASA said we can't. Why did they say that?
I'm not concerned about some video that you think says something.  You may have misunderstood it, their words may be taken out of context, whatever.   "One person from NASA talking" is not "NASA."

This isn't rocket science.

Yeah... it's not. I said these quotes -

"Can you tell me why the people at NASA don't think they have yet?" (video links showing people at NASA saying it)

"I said people from NASA said we haven't been through the Van Allen belts."

I didn't say NASA said it in some sort of official document. I never claimed that. Please read next time.
Here is the BS you are now backtracking on.

If you believe NASA.....

DID SPACE.COM ADMIT WE NEVER WENT TO THE MOON?

NASA Admits
They Can't Send Humans Through The Van Allen Radiation Belts


Carry on!

I'm not backtracking.

That was a quote where I was responding to someone. You just seemed to ignore that.

They wrote, "Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people Smiley )"

So I responded, that the statement is true, (that life can happen on mars) if you can believe NASA. If NASA says we went to the moon officially, and people from NASA say we can't get through the Van Allen Belts, I find it hard to believe anything NASA says officially.

Tarry on though, this is funny.

Edit: I think you think I named the links, I copied the youtubes name for the links. I wasn't saying the link's names as a statement. Wink
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September 29, 2015, 07:08:11 PM
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I'm not backtracking.

That was a quote where I was responding to someone. You just seemed to ignore that.

They wrote, "Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people Smiley )"

So I responded, that the statement is true, (that life can happen on mars) if you can believe NASA. If NASA says we went to the moon officially, and people from NASA say we can't get through the Van Allen Belts, I find it hard to believe anything NASA says officially.

Tarry on though, this is funny.

Edit: I think you think I named the links, I copied the youtubes name for the links. I wasn't saying the link's names as a statement. Wink
In case it isn't clear, I am practicing here the "Are you still beating your wife?" logical fallacy.  Which if even answered implies -

1.  You have a wife.
2.  You have a history of beating your wife.
3.  You may today be beating your wife.

Now, before thinking all that through too carefully....what is life like today in those secret far side Nazi Lunar bases?  When vil de Battle de Earth commenz?
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September 29, 2015, 07:15:53 PM
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I'm not backtracking.

That was a quote where I was responding to someone. You just seemed to ignore that.

They wrote, "Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people Smiley )"

So I responded, that the statement is true, (that life can happen on mars) if you can believe NASA. If NASA says we went to the moon officially, and people from NASA say we can't get through the Van Allen Belts, I find it hard to believe anything NASA says officially.

Tarry on though, this is funny.

Edit: I think you think I named the links, I copied the youtubes name for the links. I wasn't saying the link's names as a statement. Wink
In case it isn't clear, I am practicing here the "Are you still beating your wife?" logical fallacy.  Which if even answered implies -

1.  You have a wife.
2.  You have a history of beating your wife.
3.  You may today be beating your wife.

Now, before thinking all that through too carefully....what is life like today in those secret far side Nazi Lunar bases?  When vil de Battle de Earth commenz?

And why are you wasting your time writing out fallacies?

This whole thing has been a blast for me. Maybe not for you, but hopefully you learned you should actually read/watch what someone writes about before responding to it as if you know what's going on with assumptions.
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September 29, 2015, 09:14:26 PM
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I'm not backtracking.

That was a quote where I was responding to someone. You just seemed to ignore that.

They wrote, "Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people Smiley )"

So I responded, that the statement is true, (that life can happen on mars) if you can believe NASA. If NASA says we went to the moon officially, and people from NASA say we can't get through the Van Allen Belts, I find it hard to believe anything NASA says officially.

Tarry on though, this is funny.

Edit: I think you think I named the links, I copied the youtubes name for the links. I wasn't saying the link's names as a statement. Wink
In case it isn't clear, I am practicing here the "Are you still beating your wife?" logical fallacy.  Which if even answered implies -

1.  You have a wife.
2.  You have a history of beating your wife.
3.  You may today be beating your wife.

Now, before thinking all that through too carefully....what is life like today in those secret far side Nazi Lunar bases?  When vil de Battle de Earth commenz?

And why are you wasting your time writing out fallacies?

This whole thing has been a blast for me. Maybe not for you, but hopefully you learned you should actually read/watch what someone writes about before responding to it as if you know what's going on with assumptions.

Oh, ignore Spendy. He's a government agent or a troll for government or both.

The question always was the Van Allen Belts. Back in the '60s, NASA let slip that there was some kind of iodine isotope injection for astronauts that they could take to protect them from the radiation. Of course, when they let it slip out, they were simply playing us all so that we would think that they had gone through the Belts.

Now that the technology is really here to do a real moon shot, and the only problem needing fixing is the Belts problem, NASA is trying to let the truth about the fake moon shots of the past come out slowly. Besides, they did such a shoddy job of making it look real back then, that the truth is surfacing anyway, without the NASA admittance.

Spendy has some good ideas at times, but he is a total government stooge. So, expect that he will run you in circles when you start to get too far out of line regarding the thing that government wants us to believe.

Smiley

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September 29, 2015, 09:18:15 PM
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I'm not backtracking.

That was a quote where I was responding to someone. You just seemed to ignore that.

They wrote, "Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people Smiley )"

So I responded, that the statement is true, (that life can happen on mars) if you can believe NASA. If NASA says we went to the moon officially, and people from NASA say we can't get through the Van Allen Belts, I find it hard to believe anything NASA says officially.

Tarry on though, this is funny.

Edit: I think you think I named the links, I copied the youtubes name for the links. I wasn't saying the link's names as a statement. Wink
In case it isn't clear, I am practicing here the "Are you still beating your wife?" logical fallacy.  Which if even answered implies -

1.  You have a wife.
2.  You have a history of beating your wife.
3.  You may today be beating your wife.

Now, before thinking all that through too carefully....what is life like today in those secret far side Nazi Lunar bases?  When vil de Battle de Earth commenz?

And why are you wasting your time writing out fallacies?

This whole thing has been a blast for me. Maybe not for you, but hopefully you learned you should actually read/watch what someone writes about before responding to it as if you know what's going on with assumptions.

Oh, ignore Spendy. He's a government agent or a troll for government or both.

The question always was the Van Allen Belts. Back in the '60s, NASA let slip that there was some kind of iodine isotope injection for astronauts that they could take to protect them from the radiation. Of course, when they let it slip out, they were simply playing us all so that we would think that they had gone through the Belts.

Now that the technology is really here to do a real moon shot, and the only problem needing fixing is the Belts problem, NASA is trying to let the truth about the fake moon shots of the past come out slowly. Besides, they did such a shoddy job of making it look real back then, that the truth is surfacing anyway, without the NASA admittance.

Spendy has some good ideas at times, but he is a total government stooge. So, expect that he will run you in circles when you start to get too far out of line regarding the thing that government wants us to believe.

Smiley

Lol. Well it wasn't the best way. The links I was discussing and all the back and forth, probably called a lot more attention to the videos, which in turn probably made more people check them out.
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September 29, 2015, 09:34:24 PM
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I'm not backtracking.

That was a quote where I was responding to someone. You just seemed to ignore that.

They wrote, "Flowing Water On Mars indicates that LIFE CAN HAPPEN ON MARS. (Screw the religious people Smiley )"

So I responded, that the statement is true, (that life can happen on mars) if you can believe NASA. If NASA says we went to the moon officially, and people from NASA say we can't get through the Van Allen Belts, I find it hard to believe anything NASA says officially.

Tarry on though, this is funny.

Edit: I think you think I named the links, I copied the youtubes name for the links. I wasn't saying the link's names as a statement. Wink
In case it isn't clear, I am practicing here the "Are you still beating your wife?" logical fallacy.  Which if even answered implies -

1.  You have a wife.
2.  You have a history of beating your wife.
3.  You may today be beating your wife.

Now, before thinking all that through too carefully....what is life like today in those secret far side Nazi Lunar bases?  When vil de Battle de Earth commenz?

And why are you wasting your time writing out fallacies?

This whole thing has been a blast for me. Maybe not for you, but hopefully you learned you should actually read/watch what someone writes about before responding to it as if you know what's going on with assumptions.

Oh, ignore Spendy. He's a government agent or a troll for government or both.

The question always was the Van Allen Belts. Back in the '60s, NASA let slip that there was some kind of iodine isotope injection for astronauts that they could take to protect them from the radiation. Of course, when they let it slip out, they were simply playing us all so that we would think that they had gone through the Belts.

Now that the technology is really here to do a real moon shot, and the only problem needing fixing is the Belts problem, NASA is trying to let the truth about the fake moon shots of the past come out slowly. Besides, they did such a shoddy job of making it look real back then, that the truth is surfacing anyway, without the NASA admittance.

Spendy has some good ideas at times, but he is a total government stooge. So, expect that he will run you in circles when you start to get too far out of line regarding the thing that government wants us to believe.

Smiley

Lol. Well it wasn't the best way. The links I was discussing and all the back and forth, probably called a lot more attention to the videos, which in turn probably made more people check them out.

I wasn't really suggesting to ignore him. And, you are right. All the extra publicity.

This forum format is a good one. There should be some way to set up a forum like this for each good topic that we have in this one, rather than only Bitcoin.

Smiley

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September 29, 2015, 10:43:34 PM
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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September 29, 2015, 10:47:44 PM
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.
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September 29, 2015, 11:06:33 PM
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.

MythBusters were asked to use their brains, and... myth busted. Not even plausible.

Saying that you don't trust someone because of their behavior is completely valid.
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September 29, 2015, 11:15:10 PM
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.

You're so funny. Tongue

Making things up and coming up with fallacies for no reason.
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.

MythBusters were asked to use their brains, and... myth busted. Not even plausible.

True.  Here's the link.  Didn't take them very long, either. 

http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landing
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September 29, 2015, 11:25:06 PM
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.

Charlie Chaplin made some pretty good films back in the '20s.

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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.

When you use your brain to get the truth, even if it is on Youtube, you may not need to open a book.

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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.

When you use your brain to get the truth, even if it is on Youtube, you may not need to open a book.

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Of course Spendy is referring to the videos of actual people from NASA talking and discounting them being from NASA because they're on Youtube. It's like discounting the pope was in the US because you only saw it on TV. lol
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.

MythBusters were asked to use their brains, and... myth busted. Not even plausible.

True.  Here's the link.  Didn't take them very long, either.  

http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landing

For someone who needs books for proof, MythBusters?   Huh

http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

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EDIT: I forgot the part about "brains." No matter.

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September 29, 2015, 11:33:27 PM
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.

MythBusters were asked to use their brains, and... myth busted. Not even plausible.

True.  Here's the link.  Didn't take them very long, either.  

http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landing

For someone who needs books for proof, MythBusters?   Huh

http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

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Did you notice the cute comment on the MythBusters page, "The episode proves that landing on the Moon can be reproduced in studio Smiley
Knock, knock – wake up!"
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September 29, 2015, 11:37:29 PM
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Not sure which is the better conspiracy theory... that NASA made it to the moon or that NASA altered physics and/or used CGI decades before it was invented, to produce the Apollo videos at the time.
According to some, you should just Ask Youtube To Get Your Answer.

No need to use your brain or open a book.

MythBusters were asked to use their brains, and... myth busted. Not even plausible.

True.  Here's the link.  Didn't take them very long, either.  

http://mythbustersresults.com/nasa-moon-landing

For someone who needs books for proof, MythBusters?   Huh

http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm

Smiley

Did you notice the cute comment on the MythBusters page, "The episode proves that landing on the Moon can be reproduced in studio Smiley
Knock, knock – wake up!"

LOL! Didn't think of that.

Problem is that according to the evidence offered at http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm, MythBusters failed, because their set was way too small.

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September 30, 2015, 02:58:32 AM
 #80

Did you notice the cute comment on the MythBusters page, "The episode proves that landing on the Moon can be reproduced in studio Smiley
Knock, knock – wake up!"
No, the episode does not prove that.

Proof that the Moon Landing was not faked is not proof that the Moon Landing could have been faked.

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