Everyone looses in the long run

[anonbit992]

not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run

100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

The more you lose in gambling, the more you try to recover it which makes you addicted from that behavior. While in trading, it is good in the long run because for every mistake you made in trading, it teaches you a lesson which will make your trading better for the future. No one really wins from gambling neither for short or long term because the house is impossible to beat.

The thing is, Gambling is for entertainment and not primarily for making money. People miss out on accepting this fact and they end up losing money gambling. If you want to make money, then you should for investing or trading.

[abel1337]

not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run

100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

The more you lose in gambling, the more you try to recover it which makes you addicted from that behavior. While in trading, it is good in the long run because for every mistake you made in trading, it teaches you a lesson which will make your trading better for the future. No one really wins from gambling neither for short or long term because the house is impossible to beat.

The thing is, Gambling is for entertainment and not primarily for making money. People miss out on accepting this fact and they end up losing money gambling. If you want to make money, then you should for investing or trading.

People has many reason why they use and play gambling . Many of us here just want to earn profit from the capital they use in the gambling game. We can accept the fact that People is enjoying playing gambling They make fun of it and they can entertain themselves at the same tkme they are earning money.

[conected]

not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

Dont ever consider gambling and trading pretty much the same. Unlike trading, gambling especially sportsbetting is hard to manipulate while trading is pretty much easy to manipulate if you have a group of people that owned alot of it . For example the current bitcoin price is just manipulation from chinese exchanger currently and people of the same group of the pumper is guaranteed to get huge profit in the long run while in gambling you are deemed to lose in the long run

100% agree with you. long run trading is much better than long run gambling. as long you play gambling as more your chance of getting loose will increase. but in trading you can still maintain your earnings.

The more you lose in gambling, the more you try to recover it which makes you addicted from that behavior. While in trading, it is good in the long run because for every mistake you made in trading, it teaches you a lesson which will make your trading better for the future. No one really wins from gambling neither for short or long term because the house is impossible to beat.

The thing is, Gambling is for entertainment and not primarily for making money. People miss out on accepting this fact and they end up losing money gambling. If you want to make money, then you should for investing or trading.

- Investment, business is good and less risky than gambling. Many people gamble because they want quickly and easily, they do not accept to wait for a long time. In gambling, after playing for a long time we would be very easy to lose a lot. But in investment, after a long time, income will stable and increase profits from time to time

[Harry Callahan]

Everyone who play long run will always loose, better do not play gambling, but if you think you can't stay without playing gambling than just play in small run. if you listen me I would suggest just play once a day. and if you see you are wining but still don't increase your playing time.

What kind of suggestion is this? you recommend people to play once a day just to check if he wins or not? whats the point of that ? If you feel like not playing at all then dont play. There are alot of things that , well I could really say that mostly is just weird thing that people keep on suggesting in this thread

What kind of answer do you expect as it is a known fact that people will lose money if you are gambling for a longer period of time and almost all gamblers here in this forum might have experienced that .So the OP started a thread which is in fact true to the words in the title and what should we expect others to tell .

[shulio]

In gambling, after playing for a long time we would be very easy to lose a lot. But in investment, after a long time, income will stable and increase profits from time to time

This is true in most cases and according to the math however dont forget that gambler still have chance to win so investment could not always be positive, sometimes you might lose money as well however it is rare for that to happen. It is much safer than gambling however there is always no guarantee to everything

[jossiel]

Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.

Whether you have a good control when you gamble. Losing in the long run in gambling will always happen and that's why I learned from it.

Because I thought that I'll be good in the long run but I wasn't able to beat the house with my way.

And I just end up losing in the long run.

Thats true losing in a long run is happen in many times but you can control it by stop gambling in a moment pr just movento the another games that will fit to you.Sometimes we are losing in a long run because of the game that cannot fit to you.

Stopping is also another reason why many are keep on losing in the long run, why? Because the crave of satisfaction when we stop is making us more vulnerable in gambling.

And even we will stop, that is just happening for a while and afterwards we will gamble again and the cycle goes on.

[Natalim]

Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.

Whether you have a good control when you gamble. Losing in the long run in gambling will always happen and that's why I learned from it.

Because I thought that I'll be good in the long run but I wasn't able to beat the house with my way.

And I just end up losing in the long run.

Thats true losing in a long run is happen in many times but you can control it by stop gambling in a moment pr just movento the another games that will fit to you.Sometimes we are losing in a long run because of the game that cannot fit to you.

Stopping is also another reason why many are keep on losing in the long run, why? Because the crave of satisfaction when we stop is making us more vulnerable in gambling.

And even we will stop, that is just happening for a while and afterwards we will gamble again and the cycle goes on.

Let us not make stopping a temporary thing, we stop because we realize that we are not doing good in gambling. Even if we lose when we lose, at least it is a positive actions because we were able to minimize our loses. Some addicted gamblers do last until their last centavo and their addiction has ruin their life and if we will not stop, we will probably gonna end up that way.

[TheUltraElite]

If you cannot beat the house then maybe you invest there and play at the same time. This way it will be all for fun because you have both sides. Kingdice for example is accepting investments for the house.

Investing the money in the casino bankroll is a good investment - meant for long term profit. But this thread is about people trying to make short term profits from gambling and ending up losing everything.

If you take both sides then I agree it will be fun to observe the outcomes - but even there is no profit since the house keeps a percentage while the rest is obtained as investment profit. So actually you will be losing more than you win as profit from the game and investment taken together.

[EdenHazard]

but most of the people play gambling for making money and not for entertainment and they can only entertained in gambling if they are making money in gambling. but it is also a fact that majority of people lose money in gambling but still they continue their struggle to make money in gambling.

People wont be able to make any money in gambling for sure. I'll probably be the first one to be rich in gambling if I could be making money from it. I have been gamble alot and Im not rich for sure , the only way to make money is to only invest in a gambling sites that has top volume and the result is worth it

no i disagree with your opinion, you could make money in gambling it is just the mater of how much your chance. and the answer are there is very low chance for you to make it happen , you need a super lucky to leave gambling in the right time.

and ended up your career with a good amount to live in the rest of your life.

You could earn if you are not that greedy. Make sure that you can provide a healthy bankroll to start with and not be greedy when the time comes you need it. Bet proper amounts and withdraw small amounts, in the long run, you could win. There is no assurance in that if you just gamble and not making good decisions. Better be safe than sorry.

healthy bankroll you mean with larger bankroll? i don't think it was a good idea.

higher bankroll you bring in higher risk you take to lost the whole amount . why you have to do it when you can make low amount to the high when you are lucky enough right? better to lost small amount rather than take too big risk.

A gambler is not an idiot to raise a bigger bankroll if he does not believe in his capacity to win. Though it's possible to raise a big amount of bankroll, it's still important they we should not violate the principle of not to gamble what you can afford to lose. Those who can raise a good amount are people who considers gambling as their profession.

agree , a professional gambler who gamble on skill based games like poker or sportsbetting because i never heard about a pro gambler in dice game  , first of all you have to be skillful and then yes it is not a problem anymore when you want to increase the bankroll.

but let's talk about a common people who aren't experienced enough, is it a good idea to do it? i don't think so.

[The_prodigy]

Not everyone lose in the long run i proved it my self we lose when we stop playing gambling once we lose why togive up if there still a chance to win? Be smart and don't be afraid as long as you have money to bet don't afraid to lose everything will be successful in the end :$

[Betwrong]

If you cannot beat the house then maybe you invest there and play at the same time. This way it will be all for fun because you have both sides. Kingdice for example is accepting investments for the house.

Investing the money in the casino bankroll is a good investment - meant for long term profit. But this thread is about people trying to make short term profits from gambling and ending up losing everything.

If you take both sides then I agree it will be fun to observe the outcomes - but even there is no profit since the house keeps a percentage while the rest is obtained as investment profit. So actually you will be losing more than you win as profit from the game and investment taken together.

He'll be losing much much more, it cant' be even compared. I think only if you are the owner of an online casino you really can have fun like he described, otherwise he will lose in the long run for sure.

The only thing we can do about the fact that everyone loses in the long run is to try to lose less. And not due to "recovering", thus you will lose even more, but due to making small bets.

[shulio]

He'll be losing much much more, it cant' be even compared. I think only if you are the owner of an online casino you really can have fun like he described, otherwise he will lose in the long run for sure.

Having an online casino is a serious task and not for fun especially when there are investment option because no matter what , your site is going to be a target of blackhat hacker that are looking for backdoors through your code . When you are in charge of other's money then that is not fun and a serious job to do

[splitups]

Definitely, gambling is a negative sum game, you are playing against the house that has the edge. the highest outcome would be in peer-to-peer games like betfair and in pvp games generally, and even in these there is house fees, but it's lower than the edge and the odds are close to equal.

[marlboroza]

Not everyone lose in the long run i proved it my self we lose when we stop playing gambling once we lose why togive up if there still a chance to win? Be smart and don't be afraid as long as you have money to bet don't afraid to lose everything will be successful in the end :$

If you are so successful in gambling, why are you wearing betcoinag signature and posting for peanuts when you can earn money in long run from gamble? 
I have to disagree with you, you can't say everything will be good in the end because you don't know outcome of the game.

[HanSchultz]

As I said in other parts of the forum,you need to split everything in other activities, not stick to once.

That is a good idea,since there are many dice site ,you now have the option to go out to different sites and play for a certain time in one site and then try another one so that you can beat the house edge  

[tabas]

He'll be losing much much more, it cant' be even compared. I think only if you are the owner of an online casino you really can have fun like he described, otherwise he will lose in the long run for sure.

Having an online casino is a serious task and not for fun especially when there are investment option because no matter what , your site is going to be a target of blackhat hacker that are looking for backdoors through your code . When you are in charge of other's money then that is not fun and a serious job to do

It is not all about "fun" when you are going to own and operate a casino, it's more of a business. And that's why many of us are losing in the long run because their goal and mission is to get profit from its gamblers. But they aren't making their gamblers lose all the time, they are doing some marketing like making a certain gambler a winner for a while and still they lose in the long run.

[jossiel]

Everyone looses in a long run because of having no self control, and yet they wanted to win back again the money or bitcoin that had lost by playing gambling. They should not gamble for more bets so that they won't end up to lose in a long run as the rounds of gambling is very hot and tempting.

Whether you have a good control when you gamble. Losing in the long run in gambling will always happen and that's why I learned from it.

Because I thought that I'll be good in the long run but I wasn't able to beat the house with my way.

And I just end up losing in the long run.

Thats true losing in a long run is happen in many times but you can control it by stop gambling in a moment pr just movento the another games that will fit to you.Sometimes we are losing in a long run because of the game that cannot fit to you.

Stopping is also another reason why many are keep on losing in the long run, why? Because the crave of satisfaction when we stop is making us more vulnerable in gambling.

And even we will stop, that is just happening for a while and afterwards we will gamble again and the cycle goes on.

Let us not make stopping a temporary thing, we stop because we realize that we are not doing good in gambling. Even if we lose when we lose, at least it is a positive actions because we were able to minimize our loses. Some addicted gamblers do last until their last centavo and their addiction has ruin their life and if we will not stop, we will probably gonna end up that way.

Whatever the reason why we are stopping still when a gambler is a certified gambler on his heart, he will do something to get back.

And they are just going to stop for a while but after that, they will do what they want that leads team in losing a lot of their bankroll.

[wxa7115]

Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.

What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run

You are not listening, winning the lottery is hard but every day someone wins it, winning in the long run at sports betting is hard but it is possible and there are people doing it every single day, the same way there are people winning at blackjack using card counting and other strategies.

All things you mentioned do happen and people win but see the frequency of those wins. Maybe i play 100 days and after that one day i win the lottery. What about the loss which i made in rest 99 days. Also i need to have that much investment to invest for all these days on a loss. Same is true for sports betting etc.
Gambling is game for rich only.

Maybe you are right, because they have the liberty to spend their money and be entertain even if they lose. The thing is, when you are not in the situation where you can easily spend for gambling, most likely you will not gonna enjoy as the fear of losing is more dominant in your feelings.
Having said that, you are starting to be irresponsible in gambling as when the outcome does not favor you, it will greatly affect your life.

If you are worried about that you could set a weekly budget for your gambling activities that way you will not have to worry about losing too much money in the casino, so when you hit your limit you just stop playing until next week when you will have available funds to gamble.

[Caladonian]

Evidence shows it is possible, it is not easy, that is why not everyone can do it but there are a significant amount of people figuring out when the odds in an event are not right and getting nice profits with their methods.

What kind of evidence are you talking about? there is no way that you can beat the house edge in the long run no matter how you try unless you are lucky with some jackpots or whatever it is but it is not possible in just normal gameplay. If there are people that win, Im sure that they didnt win in the long run

You are not listening, winning the lottery is hard but every day someone wins it, winning in the long run at sports betting is hard but it is possible and there are people doing it every single day, the same way there are people winning at blackjack using card counting and other strategies.

All things you mentioned do happen and people win but see the frequency of those wins. Maybe i play 100 days and after that one day i win the lottery. What about the loss which i made in rest 99 days. Also i need to have that much investment to invest for all these days on a loss. Same is true for sports betting etc.
Gambling is game for rich only.

Maybe you are right, because they have the liberty to spend their money and be entertain even if they lose. The thing is, when you are not in the situation where you can easily spend for gambling, most likely you will not gonna enjoy as the fear of losing is more dominant in your feelings.
Having said that, you are starting to be irresponsible in gambling as when the outcome does not favor you, it will greatly affect your life.

If you are worried about that you could set a weekly budget for your gambling activities that way you will not have to worry about losing too much money in the casino, so when you hit your limit you just stop playing until next week when you will have available funds to gamble.

its easy to set it up you just needed to make sure that you empty your wallet just in case you lose already from that particular week you don't be bother or you will not be tempted to play more since your bankroll was already been empty its a best practice especially for those who really don't know how to control we should practice this.

[phr0stbyt3]

i agree partially with this thread, not everyone lose with gambling, gambling rely on pure luck, some people are very luck and despite their huge amount of bets they still come up victorious and take to home a very nice profit, but i understand that for every 1 that is so lucky there are millions that are not

I think you are wrong you should have said that not everyone wins in gambling but I agree to your point that 1 in every million is lucky so if you all think gambling is soo risky then why invest it.
Why don't people invest in sports betting instead as I have been betting for a long time and I found it less risky than gambling even though you can't double your investment with one bet always but it's still fine.

not everyone likes sports or sports betting, and surely enough not everyone follows all the sports to have the information in order to be able to make a good prediction and a winning bet.
it is like trading in many senses, i trade happily and say why not everyone does it. but not everyone is capable of doing it the right way.

I don't think you actually need any sort of skills of course everyone knows that in football a team with more amount of goals win normally sites like sportsbet.io have live betting and they keep the markets open till the 89-90th min the odds are normally less but you can get an idea of which team will win or it will be draw. Till now I haven't lost in football with this method but tennis is screwed up I lost lot's of money but that's fine I deserve it for my greed.