Can This Super-fast Camera be Used to Crack the Bitcoin Code?

[BADecker]

A new camera developed at MIT can photograph a trillion frames per second. Compare that with a traditional movie camera which takes a mere 24. This new advancement in photographic technology has given scientists the ability to photograph the movement of the fastest thing in the Universe, light. In the video below, you’ll see experimental footage of light photons traveling 600-million-miles-per-hour through water. The actual event occurred in a nano second, but the camera has the ability to slow it down to twenty seconds. For some perspective, according to New York Times writer, John Markoff, “If a bullet were tracked in the same fashion moving through the same fluid, the resulting movie would last three years.”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1201217.msg12609910#msg12609910

Information: http://magazine.good.is/articles/super-fast-camera-works-at-light-speed?mbid=psocial_wired

The video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8EtlBe8Ts

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[pawel7777]

Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'?

[Mickeyb]

Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'?

He probably implies that this camera has to have a very strong processor in order to push these frames. Then would this processor be able to crack Bitcoin code as he said?

I don't think this would be able OP, there are much stronger computers out there and even they are not able to crack Bitcoin for 6.5 years.

[dre1982]

Nice camera and nice vid about it, but I don't see how this could crack bitcoin.

[7788bitcoin]

I think this camera is processing huge data and extremely high speed. However, it might not do much "calculation". I think it can't be used to do any mining or private key hacking....

[n2004al]

A new camera developed at MIT can photograph a trillion frames per second. Compare that with a traditional movie camera which takes a mere 24. This new advancement in photographic technology has given scientists the ability to photograph the movement of the fastest thing in the Universe, light. In the video below, you’ll see experimental footage of light photons traveling 600-million-miles-per-hour through water. The actual event occurred in a nano second, but the camera has the ability to slow it down to twenty seconds. For some perspective, according to New York Times writer, John Markoff, “If a bullet were tracked in the same fashion moving through the same fluid, the resulting movie would last three years.”

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1201217.msg12609910#msg12609910

Information: http://magazine.good.is/articles/super-fast-camera-works-at-light-speed?mbid=psocial_wired

The video on Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Z8EtlBe8Ts

I am not at all a specialist in this field but I have read to many cases when someone has tried to crack the code of bitcoin. All have failed. I don't think that you will be able to crack this code. Because if you would be able to crack it, the bitcoin code it was cracked already. Someone who think that can crack the bitcoin code don't do posts in bitcointalk but act. 

[Q7]

Unless the technology that it uses to capture the image translates into some kind of super fast processing speed, I don't see how that would help. But even if it is made possible, it will still take a long time to actually crack the code. I think this has been discussed earlier about having quantum computers which pretty much is the same analogy to the example that you've given here.

[zzaza]

Nah, it cant crack the bitcoin code, no matter how fast it can take the pictures

[neoneros]

The camera as I understood it, does not photograph a trillion frames per second, it recreates a situation a trillion times and combines it into a series of images that appear to be a trillion frames per second. http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-16163931

so the camera's processor does not have to be fast at all, the setup has to be correct and it takes about an hour to get all the shots, still impressive, a trillion shots per hour, but not as much as per second

[LFC_Bitcoin]

No!

I don't see in any way how this could crack the bitcoin code.

[BADecker]

Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'?

He probably implies that this camera has to have a very strong processor in order to push these frames. Then would this processor be able to crack Bitcoin code as he said?

I don't think this would be able OP, there are much stronger computers out there and even they are not able to crack Bitcoin for 6.5 years.

My thought simply was along the lines of using split laser impulses like the camera does. If similar thinking were used with the super-fast computers, perhaps there is some way to test massive amounts of numbers all at the same time by applying the method for creating a visual image from various angles using reflected light.

I don't have any idea about how to apply this to testing multitudes of random character groups. But there is a process in this whole idea that might be able to be converted by someone who thoroughly knows both the numbers character-testing technique and the camera technique.

Perhaps I shouldn't be saying anything here. If someone listened to my posts, and took the idea to the right people, they just might be able to figure it out.

For example, fast computers simply test one set of characters after another. What if they could test them in such a way that for any given set of characters being tested, an extended set based off each character in the original set could simultaneously be tested, using GPU combined with an ASIC combined with the laser camera process set up for characters rather than photography?

I really don't know what I am aiming for, but I have a feeling that this might be able to be made to work.

Actually, if it can be done, it would be better to do it now than to wait until Bitcoin is the world currency.

[BADecker]

Interesting. But how would that possibly 'crack the bitcoin code'?

He probably implies that this camera has to have a very strong processor in order to push these frames. Then would this processor be able to crack Bitcoin code as he said?

I don't think this would be able OP, there are much stronger computers out there and even they are not able to crack Bitcoin for 6.5 years.

My thought simply was along the lines of using split laser impulses like the camera does. If similar thinking were used with the super-fast computers, perhaps there is some way to test massive amounts of numbers all at the same time by applying the method for creating a visual image from various angles using reflected light.

I don't have any idea about how to apply this to testing multitudes of random character groups. But there is a process in this whole idea that might be able to be converted by someone who thoroughly knows both the numbers character-testing technique and the camera technique.

Perhaps I shouldn't be saying anything here. If someone listened to my posts, and took the idea to the right people, they just might be able to figure it out.

For example, fast computers simply test one set of characters after another. What if they could test them in such a way that for any given set of characters being tested, an extended set based off each character in the original set could simultaneously be tested, using GPU combined with an ASIC combined with the laser camera process set up for characters rather than photography?

I really don't know what I am aiming for, but I have a feeling that this might be able to be made to work.

Actually, if it can be done, it would be better to do it now than to wait until Bitcoin is the world currency.

Of course, part of the reason that this should be done now is so that the same technology can be implemented into the blockchain for future encryption.

We would be getting planar encryption rather than simply linear. Somewhere into the future we could get spacial encryption. And after quantum computers become a household word, we might even go for fourth dimension (time) encryption. Time encryption just might show us how to unravel time, so that we can view into the past when the technique is re-applied to photography.

[spazzdla]

No.. just no.

[BADecker]

Nice camera, but how can this camera can crack bitcoin ?
Processor on camera is designed only to process image, so it can't be used for other jobs even it's very fast.

I still think quantum computer is better to crack bitcoin

If you had to use the photography process, why not post a plate that had all the encryption characters on it, in front of the camera laser beam, so that the beam could read the characters all at once, and use multiple laser beams to supply planar encryption readouts? A GPU would be used to control the activities of one or more ASICs in undreamed of ways.

Bitcoin technology didn't happen overnight. There are systems and problems that would need to be worked out with this method.

[BADecker]

http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg

No.. just no.

You are simply in denial. Nobody is talking about breaking any of the laws of nature, the universe, or physics. The idea of a camera that could be made to photograph light waves was an impossibility a decade ago. Now we have it. Why can't we trick nature into breaking the Bitcoin code in a similar way?

[JeWay]

Well done MIT, you just invented a tool that has the possibility to crack Bitcoin code.

[RodeoX]

Wow. That is friking amazing!

[spazzdla]

http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg

No.. just no.

You are simply in denial. Nobody is talking about breaking any of the laws of nature, the universe, or physics. The idea of a camera that could be made to photograph light waves was an impossibility a decade ago. Now we have it. Why can't we trick nature into breaking the Bitcoin code in a similar way?

Do you even math bro?

[7788bitcoin]

http://miguelmoreno.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/fYFBsqp.jpg

No.. just no.

You are simply in denial. Nobody is talking about breaking any of the laws of nature, the universe, or physics. The idea of a camera that could be made to photograph light waves was an impossibility a decade ago. Now we have it. Why can't we trick nature into breaking the Bitcoin code in a similar way?

This just can't be done. For example, 1+1=2. I think human knew this fact since very very very very long time ago, and it will always be correct. 1+1 will never be 3.

[shorena]

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This just can't be done. For example, 1+1=2. I think human knew this fact since very very very very long time ago, and it will always be correct. 1+1 will never be 3.

In |F₂ 1+1=0. Mabye we should first talk about what "crack the code" means.