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December 21, 2015, 06:52:35 AM
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Tim Fillmore:

"I made a mistake when updating the Database"

WTF. Fuck you guys. He admitted there is an error in his DB pertaining to MY COIN! FUCK YOU! This is FRAUD!

Use a linked quote. That is useless.

Todamont:

"I enjoy fucking goats."



See how easy that is?

Use a forum quote.

I see what you did there. Your strategy of posting to create a new page to avoid my question has failed. Quote your supposed admission with an active link.
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December 21, 2015, 06:52:41 AM
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Tim Fillmore:

"I made a mistake when updating the Database"

WTF. Fuck you guys. He admitted there is an error in his DB pertaining to MY COIN! FUCK YOU! This is FRAUD!
An error which did NOT show the coin as funded.

At this point, I am going to stop following this thread.

As far as I am concerned, he opened the coin, took out the 1BTC (spent it), and is trying to get a free bitcoin on top of it.  Or, he simply fucked up and now wants someone else to pay for it.  He is using bitcointalk as a troll/FUD.  I am half curious as to why you would have peeled the coin anyway if not simply because you were suspect of it in the first place.

I formally accuse Tim Fillmore of securities fraud.
From your prior posts, I don't think anyone would take you seriously anyway.

Good luck with your future bitcoin purchases/sells.

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December 21, 2015, 06:54:49 AM
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I formally accuse Tim Fillmore, President of Titan Btc, of securities fraud.
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December 21, 2015, 06:56:56 AM
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I formally accuse Tim Fillmore, President of Titan Btc, of securities fraud.

I formally accuse you of fucking goats and liking it. Where is that supposed admission of guilt that TitanBTC made? I don't think it has any more basis than your goat fucking. Please link (I mean the quote, no goat porn please).
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December 21, 2015, 06:58:55 AM
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I formally accuse Tim Fillmore, President of Titan Btc, of securities fraud.
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December 21, 2015, 06:59:55 AM
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I formally accuse Tim Fillmore, President of Titan Btc, of securities fraud.
Reported for post spam. Still waiting for you to link that quote.
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December 21, 2015, 07:01:14 AM
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Hey man, I'm not the on who is posting crazy shit about goat pron. Dumbass.
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December 21, 2015, 07:04:01 AM
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Hey man, I'm not the on who is posting crazy shit about goat pron. Dumbass.

You are the one making claims of admissions of guilt that you refuse to source (read it never happened). My claims about you fucking goats have just as much validity as your claims against TitanBTC until you source your claims.
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December 21, 2015, 07:05:17 AM
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>fucking goats

You are a loser, Tecshare. You have lost all credibility.
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December 21, 2015, 07:07:30 AM
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I formally accuse Tim Fillmore, President of Titan Btc, of securities fraud.
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December 21, 2015, 07:08:54 AM
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>fucking goats

You are a loser, Tecshare. You have lost all credibility.

You hurt my feelings... you don't know this but your opinion means a lot to me. Now, personal attacks and distractions from the topic at hand aside, where is the linked quote to the supposed admission of a DB mistake that TitanBTC made resulting in your loss of funds that you claim exists?
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December 21, 2015, 07:24:13 AM
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Tim wants me to participate in a criminal investigation, just, no police involved.

He wants me to rely on his "investigator" that he hired, over a 1btc dispute. Lol. Fucking scammer.
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December 21, 2015, 07:27:29 AM
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Before I decided to ignore the thread, I decided to do a little research.

You specifically bought redeemed coins on bitcoin talk.  What would be the ods of you trying to make money on those specific coins?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=551096.msg6042783#msg6042783

From User:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=81933

You paid .16 worth, while your offer was .08for one.  Your Feedback send was:  "Bought a (redeemed) 1btc titan physical bitcoin, silvergoldandbitcoin shipped the coin and it arrived as expected."

That user hasn't been active since August 03.  Nice waiting time before you decided to pull a claim since he is no longer after.

I just wonder (since it wasn't made public yet) if that was the person the coin belonged to.  Either you or Titan can confirm that.

Name:   silvergoldandbitcoin
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December 21, 2015, 07:28:35 AM
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That other coin was already accounted for. I have them all sitting together in front of me. There is only 1 coin "in dispute" here. As I said, I unsealed this coin with a witness present.
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December 21, 2015, 07:44:04 AM
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See Tim. Now I am under suspicion. Everyone who ever came into contact with that coin is under suspicion and it is marked "unfunded".

FUCK! Thanks a lot. Merry fuckin' Christmas 2015. Sorry if your whole business coming under suspicion of securities fraud is inconvenient for you.
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December 21, 2015, 07:56:50 AM
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I don't even want any payment on this coin any more. I just want awareness that Titan Btc is not to be trusted. I want awareness, from the DA. I wish I was never associated with this fucking coin.
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December 21, 2015, 08:07:07 AM
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I hate you because of this.
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December 21, 2015, 10:03:02 AM
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You now realise the mistake/s you have now made, and now think posting personal attacks and unsubstantiated accusations will serve your frustration, right? Compound that frustration my friend, with knowing that you have helped Tim/Titan come out of this looking more upstanding and credible, than before this issue. Theres a lesson there, somewhere.     
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December 21, 2015, 02:38:10 PM
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Our coins have a few different page "states" which may show up when you go to verify its value on our website.  "Not-yet-funded", "Funded" and "Redeemed".  The funded page state is different for 2FA coins vs. Private key coins, as well.  

When the coins are shipped, that "Not-yet-funded" page state will be visible until the user verifies that they have received the shipment.  With 2FA coins, the user enters in a confirmation number from their packing slip and the email address and password they want to register the coin to.  When they've clicked a confirmation link that arrives in their email, that page state changes to show that the coin is funded.  With private key coins, the buyer emails us to confirm safe delivery and we change that state in the DB manually.

At that point, the coins will show as "Funded" until a redemption request has been made.

Coins may show as "not yet funded" in a few scenarios.

1.  A reseller on ebay is trying to dodge eBay rules against selling bitcoins.  As such, they are waiting to do the initial coin registration until they have resold the coin.  It is being advertised EXPLICITLY as unfunded so that eBay does not kill the auction.  A buyer would really need to trust the seller if they were to purchase this type of coin because of option 2...

2. A coin may have been "lost" in transit.  This has happened many times where a buyer claims that the package didn't arrive.  We don't dispute those claims.  We just send out a replacement shipment.  Every coin is unique, so the replacement has a unique coin ID from the one that was originally sent out.  If a buyer continues to claim that they aren't receiving their orders after multiple attempts (even if we have delivery confirmation from USPS) we simply refund their purchase and apologize.

3. I made a mistake when updating the Database field that dictate the page states.

Option #2 means that there coins out there that are intact but unfunded, and will never be funded because they were marked as "lost".  We do keep records of these coins, and there's about 2 dozen of them.

Todamont's coin was not one of these "lost" coins.  That would be easy for us to claim, but that's not the case here.  His coin was registered in 2013 and redeemed in 2014.  The page state for the coin in question should say "redeemed" and it does not.  This was likely scenario #3.  A mistake on my part in updating the flag that determines the page state, as the DB update was done by me manually.  Instead of correcting the "error", we've left it as is until we've been able to complete the vulnerability analysis on our servers.

I'm happy to explain further but it probably makes sense to answer specific questions at this point.



This unfunded coin sale on ebay is very, very unusual. Specifically the "certificate of authenticity" stating:

"At the time of sale, this coin was certified to be uniquely associated with an address which bears the amount and type of the cryptological currency stated on the coin's obverse."

Signed by Tim Fillmore

ebay.com/itm/TITAN-ONE-BIT-COIN-UNFUNDED-HOLOGRAM-RARE-COLECTOR-COIN-NOT-CASACIUS-LEALANA-BTC-/111849058989?hash=item1a0ab932ad:g:l7QAAOSwrklVYzfE
This really, really looks like some of the coins that Tim certified as funded were, in fact, not funded.

to play a devil's advocate here, I feel like TitanBTC owes slightly more detailed response to a few things:

1) Including a certificate that says the coin is associated with a funded address BEFORE that occurs is misleading and opens up these sort of issues. If you want to include an authenticity card like that, it should be shipped as a seperate document AFTER the coin is funded. When you sign up for college/university, they dont give you a diploma until AFTER you meet the criteria, even though the diploma was included in the cost. see the commonality between a "to-be-loaded coin" and a "to-be-graduated student"?

2) we know the coin is this one: https://www.titanbtc.com/verify/vFZKfWyJ/    Surely you can provide a more detailed explanation of sale date, and if it was sold to anyone who has reported lost coins or otherwise requested not to load the coins. Is the 1BTC for the coin still in a coldwallet waiting to be validated by the original buyer?

3) what about that ebay coin? id like to know how that is possible. is it a "lost" coin?

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December 21, 2015, 02:43:51 PM
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My fault was that I didn't check a verify page that I didn't know existed? Or is it my fault that Tim signs fraudulent certificates saying coins have been funded, when his database and website indicate that they haven't?

Is it this coin you bought?: "Bought a (redeemed) 1btc titan physical bitcoin, silvergoldandbitcoin shipped the coin and it arrived as expected." (source: you left this trust review for someone selling redeemed coins)

And yes, i'd consider it your fault you did not validate a coin you purchased from a 3rd party. If you had done any reasearch before spending >1BTC on a coin you would have seen that TitanBTC strongly recommends validating the balance before purchase or resale.

I don't remember who I bought it from and I would not implicate them in the chain of ownership if I did. There may have been any number of owners between the original owner and myself, and it's not fair to throw any number of people under suspicion of theft or fraud over this unfunded/redeemed coin issue.
digging yourself a hole

I don't even want any payment on this coin any more. I just want awareness that Titan Btc is not to be trusted. I want awareness, from the DA. I wish I was never associated with this fucking coin.

I hate you because of this.
man, you turned the rationality knob down to 1, and snapped off the insanity slider. I'm actually concerned by the fact you own a gun, because all you are doing is posting the same "security fraud" accusation over and over, and showing anger that TitanBTC seems fairly willing to work with you in a criminal investigation THAT YOU KEEP SAYING YOU WILL PERSUE

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