Why I sold my S5 :/

[xmatt007x]

Hey Everyone!

Well, I only had my S5 for about a week.. fully invested and running. I had to sell my rig because the damn this was too loud.. I would like to get back into mining any ideas?

Diffrent rigs?

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[VirosaGITS]

Hey Everyone!

Well, I only had my S5 for about a week.. fully invested and running. I had to sell my rig because the damn this was too loud.. I would like to get back into mining any ideas?

Diffrent rigs?

I'd recommend... a S5 ironically. Update to latest firmware and set fan speed to 20%, add a second fan. Pretty quiet and its probably the best GH/$/Efficiency ratio you can get if you have a decent electricity rate.

[xmatt007x]

But wouldn't it over heat?

[kingcolex]

Hey Everyone!

Well, I only had my S5 for about a week.. fully invested and running. I had to sell my rig because the damn this was too loud.. I would like to get back into mining any ideas?

Diffrent rigs?

Should have modded the fans, I used 2 scythe fans in a push and pull method and I get around 37db while getting 1th/s

[VirosaGITS]

But wouldn't it over heat?

Not really, for instance 2 S1 fan which is about 2500~2800rpm is about the same cooling capacity as a single stock fan and its 20 less dB. You can do even better, add an enclosure, add a transversal box fan to blow air through the fins.

Edit: Right now i run those at 2k rpm and get 40c temp with 10c ambient.

[xmatt007x]

But wouldn't it over heat?

Not really, for instance 2 S1 fan which is about 2500~2800rpm is about the same cooling capacity as a single stock fan and its 20 less dB. You can do even better, add an enclosure, add a transversal box fan to blow air through the fins.

Well I cashed out.. I broke even. What would you recommend for the setup.. It was VERY loud in my house.

[VirosaGITS]

But wouldn't it over heat?

Not really, for instance 2 S1 fan which is about 2500~2800rpm is about the same cooling capacity as a single stock fan and its 20 less dB. You can do even better, add an enclosure, add a transversal box fan to blow air through the fins.

Well I cashed out.. I broke even. What would you recommend for the setup.. It was VERY loud in my house.

The aforementioned Scythe Kaze is very popular. Personally i just used S1 fans i cannibalized from the now undervolted/clocked S1 that run with some completely silent fans now.

There is also a 3d printed mod to add an enclosure.

If your electricity is really cheap you could go for S3's as well.

[kingcolex]

But wouldn't it over heat?

Not really, for instance 2 S1 fan which is about 2500~2800rpm is about the same cooling capacity as a single stock fan and its 20 less dB. You can do even better, add an enclosure, add a transversal box fan to blow air through the fins.

Well I cashed out.. I broke even. What would you recommend for the setup.. It was VERY loud in my house.

The aforementioned Scythe Kaze is very popular. Personally i just used S1 fans i cannibalized from the now undervolted/clocked S1 that run with some completely silent fans now.

There is also a 3d printed mod to add an enclosure.

If your electricity is really cheap you could go for S3's as well.

I did one scythe ultra kaze and a scythe slip stream to save a little bit.

[VirosaGITS]

But wouldn't it over heat?

Not really, for instance 2 S1 fan which is about 2500~2800rpm is about the same cooling capacity as a single stock fan and its 20 less dB. You can do even better, add an enclosure, add a transversal box fan to blow air through the fins.

Well I cashed out.. I broke even. What would you recommend for the setup.. It was VERY loud in my house.

The aforementioned Scythe Kaze is very popular. Personally i just used S1 fans i cannibalized from the now undervolted/clocked S1 that run with some completely silent fans now.

There is also a 3d printed mod to add an enclosure.

If your electricity is really cheap you could go for S3's as well.

I did one scythe ultra kaze and a scythe slip stream to save a little bit.

That could work, the problem with only one fan seem to be that the air go all over because of the way the heatsink is made, with a second fan the air has a path of least resistance to a proper air flow.

Tbh i'm not sure why the S5 did not come with 2 fan, especially with that icky heatsink.

Also the topic was moved into mining speculation, not sure why.

[notlist3d]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

[VirosaGITS]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

Thats an interesting rumor, what source does it come from?

A bite-sized quiet S7 level miner would be very nice. Something like 1.6TH on 400watts. Would definitively make me review my recommendations of getting S5's, even though the price would probably be around 500-600USD.

[xmatt007x]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

Great information! Can you tell me a little more about the Avalon 4.1? How much is it?

Looks pretty cool! https://ehash.com/product/avalon4-module-1t/

[VirosaGITS]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

Great information! Can you tell me a little more about the Avalon 4.1? How much is it?

Looks pretty cool! https://ehash.com/product/avalon4-module-1t/

Its very hard to get, i had a buying thread opened for months saying i'm interested in buying one and i never had anyone PM me about it, ever. Its more expensive than the S5, its a rare unit, not many were built and the price did not really drop.

In term of value i'd put it around 1BTC shipped in term of ROI, a bit more expensive than a S5 but its actual sale value is definitively higher, probably close to 400USD or 1.5BTC~

[xmatt007x]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

Great information! Can you tell me a little more about the Avalon 4.1? How much is it?

Looks pretty cool! https://ehash.com/product/avalon4-module-1t/

Its very hard to get, i had a buying thread opened for months saying i'm interested in buying one and i never had anyone PM me about it, ever. Its more expensive than the S5, its a rare unit, not many were built and the price did not really drop.

In term of value i'd put it around 1BTC shipped in term of ROI, a bit more expensive than a S5 but its actual sale value is definitively higher, probably close to 400USD or 1.5BTC~

Yuck! I would like to get back into the game any ideas? Maybe $200ish to spend?

[VirosaGITS]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

Great information! Can you tell me a little more about the Avalon 4.1? How much is it?

Looks pretty cool! https://ehash.com/product/avalon4-module-1t/

Its very hard to get, i had a buying thread opened for months saying i'm interested in buying one and i never had anyone PM me about it, ever. Its more expensive than the S5, its a rare unit, not many were built and the price did not really drop.

In term of value i'd put it around 1BTC shipped in term of ROI, a bit more expensive than a S5 but its actual sale value is definitively higher, probably close to 400USD or 1.5BTC~

Yuck! I would like to get back into the game any ideas? Maybe $200ish to spend?

What is your electricity cost/rate in per/kWh? If its over 0.08~0.1$/kWh i'd say just forget it, grab a small USB miner for fun and thats pretty much it. Maybe something a little bit bigger to run as a lottery miner.

[xmatt007x]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

Great information! Can you tell me a little more about the Avalon 4.1? How much is it?

Looks pretty cool! https://ehash.com/product/avalon4-module-1t/

Its very hard to get, i had a buying thread opened for months saying i'm interested in buying one and i never had anyone PM me about it, ever. Its more expensive than the S5, its a rare unit, not many were built and the price did not really drop.

In term of value i'd put it around 1BTC shipped in term of ROI, a bit more expensive than a S5 but its actual sale value is definitively higher, probably close to 400USD or 1.5BTC~

Yuck! I would like to get back into the game any ideas? Maybe $200ish to spend?

What is your electricity cost/rate in per/kWh? If its over 0.08~0.1$/kWh i'd say just forget it, grab a small USB miner for fun and thats pretty much it. Maybe something a little bit bigger to run as a lottery miner.

Currently 0.08 - 0.10

[VirosaGITS]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

Great information! Can you tell me a little more about the Avalon 4.1? How much is it?

Looks pretty cool! https://ehash.com/product/avalon4-module-1t/

Its very hard to get, i had a buying thread opened for months saying i'm interested in buying one and i never had anyone PM me about it, ever. Its more expensive than the S5, its a rare unit, not many were built and the price did not really drop.

In term of value i'd put it around 1BTC shipped in term of ROI, a bit more expensive than a S5 but its actual sale value is definitively higher, probably close to 400USD or 1.5BTC~

Yuck! I would like to get back into the game any ideas? Maybe $200ish to spend?

What is your electricity cost/rate in per/kWh? If its over 0.08~0.1$/kWh i'd say just forget it, grab a small USB miner for fun and thats pretty much it. Maybe something a little bit bigger to run as a lottery miner.

Currently 0.08 - 0.10

Thats more than what you'd pay for hosted mining so...Its honestly hard to recommend you anything.

Odds are even something efficient than a S7 will not ROI before the halving, which at which point make any profit an uncertain thing.
And going back to a S5 is also not recommended since your electricity cost would already take a significant portion of the earning. If you get S5's for 200$~ you could try it but its very hard to get it in the low 200$'s. Though not impossible. You might be able to break even after 6 months and then profit by selling it.

Finding a hosted solution might be better however.

[notlist3d]

If you want quiet look at Avalon 4.1 for example it comes quiet, no mods needed.  I wish you would have asked on the S5 before buying, and also before selling.

The S5 run's hot and loud.  That is just how it was made.  There are some who modded it.  I think most likely is you modding with much quieter fan's can do push/pull even.  But you sold it... so would be a shame to buy another S5.

There are rumors of a new S7 that no one knows much about... so if you wait it is possible it's smaller but no one knows for sure.  But chances are it will still be loud, even changing fan's out voids warranty though.

Great information! Can you tell me a little more about the Avalon 4.1? How much is it?

Looks pretty cool! https://ehash.com/product/avalon4-module-1t/

Its very hard to get, i had a buying thread opened for months saying i'm interested in buying one and i never had anyone PM me about it, ever. Its more expensive than the S5, its a rare unit, not many were built and the price did not really drop.

In term of value i'd put it around 1BTC shipped in term of ROI, a bit more expensive than a S5 but its actual sale value is definitively higher, probably close to 400USD or 1.5BTC~

Yuck! I would like to get back into the game any ideas? Maybe $200ish to spend?

What is your electricity cost/rate in per/kWh? If its over 0.08~0.1$/kWh i'd say just forget it, grab a small USB miner for fun and thats pretty much it. Maybe something a little bit bigger to run as a lottery miner.

Currently 0.08 - 0.10

Thats more than what you'd pay for hosted mining so...Its honestly hard to recommend you anything.

Odds are even something efficient than a S7 will not ROI before the halving, which at which point make any profit an uncertain thing.
And going back to a S5 is also not recommended since your electricity cost would already take a significant portion of the earning. If you get S5's for 200$~ you could try it but its very hard to get it in the low 200$'s. Though not impossible. You might be able to break even after 6 months and then profit by selling it.

Finding a hosted solution might be better however.

A lot of hosting centers are around the .10 area.   Once having some guess they will go down more, but hard to say now.  Some are a tad below but a lot want X watts to get that lower rate.   

As far ass ROI before having really all depends.  Those buying S7 when was 280 or so did a lot better then those buying at 230.     And it could change even more we don't know.   But at having the unit will still have value for sure on S7.  So I predict some might have to sell to ROI, but I see a lot ROI on them.

[kpitti]

To my opinion there will hard to find ASIC which is quite as you looking for. 
You can have a look for hosting option, or just find a place where noice is not that important.

[QuintLeo]

Best probabilities for quiet right now are the Avalon 4.1 and the Spondoolies SP20 - SP20 clocked at 1.1-1.2 can run the fan at 20% at almost any reasonable temp and is pretty quiet, I have read that the 4.1 was just quiet period though it's not as efficient as a S5 or an undervolted SP20 can get.

 Everything I've seen about the "next gen" miners (S7, Avalon 6, LK/BW B11) are that they will be at least as loud as an S5 and will probably NEED the full capabilities of their fan setup or very close to work.


 As far as RoI goes - even with the recent Bitcoin price surge, IMO the S7 has zero chance of achieving RoI before the halfing next July, and will be very close to unprofitable afterwards (probably still won't RoI even with that final trickle of profits for a very few months) unless your electric cost is VERY VERY VERY low.

 *IF* (and I class this is a huge if, picture those letters 10 meters high at least) Bitcoin pricing kept fairly close pace on increases to the diff increases of late, that would change - but I suspect the current price increase isn't going to last, as it has no new news backing it and no real reason to exist except POSSIBLY the Chinese economy falling into the pot.