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I'll assume that That photo means that Piglet is the winner of the bounty?
What were your other potential runnerups? Some of us might want to know how close we were
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I'll assume that That photo means that Piglet is the winner of the bounty?
What were your other potential runnerups? Some of us might want to know how close we were
I think he was between oink and piglet and Popsicle
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Bounty is still open, although we slowly inclines to the "Piglet". There's no hurry in closing the bounty, but as far as there won't be a better proposal, we'll choose this.
If we'll choose "Piglet", I'm also going to pay for "Oink", because I'm quite sure I'll use such lovely name for something related :-D.
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November 16, 2012, 06:00:10 PM Last edit: November 17, 2012, 05:09:50 PM by deepceleron |
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I'll assume that That photo means that Piglet is the winner of the bounty?
What were your other potential runnerups? Some of us might want to know how close we were
If so, that probably wouldn't work - Disney has an EU trademark for "piglet" that they have filed for every category under the sun: Nice class number: 3 List of goods and services: Bleaching preparations and other substances for laundry use; cleaning, polishing, scouring and abrasive preparations; soaps; perfumery, essential oils, cosmetics, hair lotions; dentifrices; after-shave lotions; antiperspirants; aromatherapy oils; artificial eyelashes and fingernails; baby oil; baby wipes; bath gels; bath powder; beauty masks; blush; body creams, lotions, and powders; breath freshener; bubble bath; cologne; deodorants; dusting powder; essential oils for personal use; eye liner; eye shadows; eyebrow pencils; face powder; facial creams; facial lotion; facial masks; facial scrubs; fragrance emitting wicks for room fragrance; fragrances for personal use; hair gel; hair conditioners; hair shampoo; hair mousse; hair creams; hair spray; hand cream; hand lotions; hand soaps; lip balm; lipstick; lipstick holders; lip gloss; liquid soaps; makeup; mascara; mouthwash; nail care preparations; nail glitter; nail hardeners; nail polish; perfume; potpourri; room fragrances; shaving cream; skin soap; talcum powders; toilet water; skin creams; skin moisturizer; sun block; sun screen; decorative glitter. Nice class number: 9 List of goods and services: Scientific, nautical, surveying, photographic, cinematographic, optical, weighing, measuring, signalling, checking (supervision), life-saving and teaching apparatus and instruments; apparatus and instruments for conducting, switching, transforming, accumulating, regulating or controlling electricity; apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of sound or images; magnetic data carriers, recording discs; automatic vending machines and mechanisms for coin operated apparatus; cash registers, calculating machines, data processing equipment and computers; fire-extinguishing apparatus; computer hardware and computer software, peripherals; operating and user instructions stored in digital form for computers and computer software, in particular on floppy disks or CD-ROM; eyeglasses and sunglasses; protective helmets; swimming jackets, life jackets; cinematographic films, exposed films; audio cassette recorders; audio cassette players; audio cassettes; audio discs; audio Speakers; binoculars; calculators; camcorders; cameras; CD-ROMs; CD-ROM drives (as part of the computer); CD-ROM writers (as part of the computer); cellular telephones; cellular telephone accessories; cellular telephone cases; face plates for cellular telephones; compact disc players; compact disc recorders; compact discs; computer game programs; computer game cartridges and discs; computer keyboards; computer monitors; computer mouse; computer disc drives; cordless telephones; decorative magnets; digital cameras; DVDs; DVD players; DVD recorders; digital versatile discs; digital video discs; electronic personal organizers; eyeglass cases; headphones; karaoke machines; microphones; MP3 players; modems (as part of a computer); mouse pads; motion picture films; pagers; personal Stereos; personal digital assistants; printers; radios; telephones; television sets; video cameras; video cassette recorders; video cassette players; video game cartridges; video game discs; video cassettes; videophones; walkie-talkies; wrist and arm rests for use with computers. Nice class number: 14 List of goods and services: Precious metals and their alloys and goods in precious metals or coated therewith (included in class 14); jewellery, precious stones; horological and chronometric instruments; alarm clocks; belt buckles of precious metal (for clothing); bolo ties with precious metal tips; bracelets; busts of precious metal; candle snuffers of precious metal; candlesticks of precious metal; charms; clocks; earrings; jewelry cases of precious metal; jewelry chains; key rings of precious metal; lapel pins; letter openers of precious metal; neck chains; necklaces; necktie fasteners; non-monetary coins; ornamental pins; pendants; rings; slides for bolo ties; stop watches; tie clips; tie fasteners; tie tacks; wall clocks; watch bands; watch cases; watch chains; watch straps; watches; wedding bands; wristwatches. Nice class number: 16 List of goods and services: Paper, cardboard and goods made from these materials (included in class 16); printed matter; bookbinding material; photographs; stationery; adhesives for stationery or household purposes; artists' materials; paint brushes; typewriters and office requisites (except furniture); instructional and teaching material (except apparatus); plastic materials for packaging (included in class 16); printers' type; printing blocks; address books; almanacs; appliqués in the form of decals; appointment books; art prints; arts and craft paint kits; autograph books; baby books; ball point pens; baseball cards; binders; bookends; bookmarks; books; bumper stickers; calendars; cartoon strips; christmas cards; chalk; children's activity books; coasters made of paper; coin albums; coloring books; color pencils; comic books; comic strips; coupon books; decals; decorative paper centerpieces; diaries; disposable diapers for babies; drawing rulers; envelopes; erasers; felt pens; flash cards; gift cards; gift wrapping paper; globes; greeting cards; guest books; magazines; maps; memo pads; modeling clay; newsletters; newspapers; note paper; notebooks; notebook paper; paintings; paper flags; paper party favors; paper cake decorations; paper party decorations; paper napkins; paper party bags; paperweights; paper gift wrap bows; paper pennants; paper place mats; paper table cloths; pen or pencil holders; pencils; pencil sharpeners; pen and pencil cases and boxes; pens; periodicals; photograph albums; photo-engravings; pictorial prints; picture books; portraits; postcards; posters; printed awards; printed certificates; printed invitations; printed menus; recipe books; rubber stamps; score cards; stamp albums; staplers; stickers; trading cards; ungraduated rulers; writing paper; writing implements. Nice class number: 18 List of goods and services: Leather and imitations of leather and goods made of these materials (included in class 18); animal skins, hides; trunks and travelling bags; umbrellas, parasols and walking sticks; whips, harness and saddlery; all purpose sport bags; athletic bags; baby backpacks; backpacks; beach bags; book bags; calling card cases; change purses; coin purses; diaper bags; duffel bags; fanny packs; gym bags; handbags; knapsacks; key cases; leather key chains; lipstick holders; luggage; luggage tags; overnight bags; purses; satchels; shopping bags; tote bags; waist packs; wallets. Nice class number: 20 List of goods and services: Furniture, mirrors, picture frames; goods (included in class 20) of wood, cork, reed, cane, wicker, horn, bone, ivory, whalebone, shell, amber, mother-of-pearl, meerschaum and substitutes for all these materials, or of plastics; air mattresses for use when camping; bassinets; beds; benches; bookcases; cabinets; chairs; coat racks; computer furniture; computer keyboard trays; cots; couches; decorative mobiles; desks; drinking straws; engraved and cut stone plaques; figurines and statuettes made of bone, plaster, plastic, wax, or wood; flagpoles; foot stools; gift package decorations made of plastic; hand fans; hand-held mirrors; jewelry boxes not of metal; key fobs not of metal; lawn furniture; love seats; magazine racks; mattresses; non-Christmas ornaments made of bone, plaster, plastic, wax or wood; ottomans; party ornaments of plastic; pedestals; pillows; plant stands made of wire and metal; decorative wall plaques; plastic flags; plastic name badges; plastic novelty license plates; plastic pennants; plastic cake decorations; sea shells; sleeping bags; tables; toy chests; umbrella stands; venetian blinds; wind chimes. Nice class number: 24 List of goods and services: Textiles and textile goods (included in class 24); bed and table covers; afghans; barbecue mitts; bath linen; bath towels; bed blankets; bed canopies; bed linen; bed sheets; bed skirts; bed spreads; blanket throws; calico; children's blankets; cloth coasters; cloth doilies; cloth flags; cloth pennants; comforters; crib bumpers; curtains; fabric flags; felt pennants; golf towels; hand towels; handkerchiefs; hooded towels; household linen; kitchen towels; oven mitts; pillow cases; pillow covers; pot holders; quilts; receiving blankets; silk blankets; table linen; textile napkins; textile place mats; textile tablecloths; throws; towels; washcloths; woollen blankets. Nice class number: 25 List of goods and services: Clothing, footwear, headgear; belts; athletic shoes; bandanas; baseball caps; beach cover-ups; beachwear; bibs; bikinis; blazers; boots; bow ties; bras; caps; chaps; cloth bibs; coats; dresses; ear muffs; gloves; golf shirts; halloween costumes; hats; head bands; hosiery; infantwear; jackets; jeans; jerseys; kerchiefs; leotards; leg warmers; mittens; neckties; night shirts; night gowns; pajamas; pants; panty hose; polo shirts; ponchos; rainwear; robes; sandals; scarves; shirts; shoes; skirts; shorts; slacks; slippers; sleepwear; socks; stockings; sweaters; sweat pants; sweat shirts; swimsuits; tank tops; tights; t-shirts; underwear; vests; wrist bands. Nice class number: 28 List of goods and services: Games and playthings; gymnastic and sporting articles (included in class 28); decorations for Christmas trees (except illumination articles and confectionery); playing cards; action skill games; action figures and accessories therefore; board games; card games; children's multiple activity toys; badminton sets; balloons; basketballs; bath toys; baseballs; beach balls; bean bags; bean bag dolls; board games; building blocks; bowling balls; bubble making wands and solution sets; chess sets; children's play cosmetics; christmas stockings; collectable toy figures; crib mobiles; crib toys; disc toss toys; dolls; doll clothing; doll accessories; doll playsets; electric action toys; equipment sold as a unit for playing card games; fishing tackle; golf balls; golf gloves; golf ball markers; hand held unit for playing electronic games; hockey pucks; inflatable toys; jigsaw puzzles; jump ropes; kites; magic tricks; marbles; manipulative games; mechanical toys; music box toys; musical toys; parlor games; party favors in the nature of small toys; party games; plush toys; puppets; roller skates; rubber balls; skateboards; soccer balls; spinning tops; squeeze toys; stuffed toys; table tennis tables; target games; teddy bears; tennis balls; toy action figures; toy bucket and shovel sets; toy mobiles; toy vehicles; toy scooters; toy cars; toy model hobby craft kits; toy figures; toy banks; toy trucks; toy watches; wind-up toys; yo-yos; paper party hats. Nice class number: 41 List of goods and services: Education and entertainment services; providing of training; sporting and cultural activities; production, presentation, distribution, and rental of motion picture films; production, presentation, distribution, and rental of television and radio programs; production, presentation, distribution (publication), and rental of sound and video recordings; entertainment information; production of entertainment shows and interactive programs for distribution via television, cable, satellite, audio and video media, cartridges, laser discs, computer discs and electronic means; production and provision of entertainment, news, and entertainment information via communication and computer networks; amusement park and theme park services; educational and entertainment services rendered in or relating to theme parks; live stage shows; presentation of live performances; theater productions; entertainer services.
Here's mine, unsubmitted before because it seems more like a linux release name, but completely trademark-free, and you are able to build a brand without previous meaning associations (like how amazon.com has nothing to do with rivers, and few monsters are at monster.com): "Brookesia" btw: This is what a member of the genus brookesia looks like if you need the name to inspire iconography: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fnews.bbcimg.co.uk%2Fmedia%2Fimages%2F58499000%2Fjpg%2F_58499388_tiny_chameleons_photo2_brookesia_micra_juvenile_on_finger_frank_glaw.jpg&t=665&c=ACxDL3QkhcqhWw) Specific species in this genus have names like "brookesia minima", "brookesia micra", "brookesia bonsi", if you want to borrow them for product names under a company name.
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November 16, 2012, 06:07:58 PM Last edit: December 27, 2012, 04:31:44 PM by slush |
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Isn't "piglet" casual english word?
Btw I don't see "Bitcoin hardware wallets" in the list ;-).
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^^^ Actually, I think if possible you should go with piglet, just to teach this *'%&## namestealing corporations a lesson. But you should consult a lawyer before doing so.
If you get the OK by one, than go with it. Legally Stealing a protected name from Disney could make some awesome press.
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November 16, 2012, 06:20:19 PM Last edit: November 16, 2012, 06:41:54 PM by deepceleron |
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Isn't "piglet" casual english word?
Btw I don't wee "Bitcoin hardware wallets" in the list ;-).
You would think "Phoenix" would be a word you could use, but it didn't fly, and neither did "Firebird", and then even "Firefox" took licensing agreements because a EU trademark turned up later. The Diamond "Viper" video card name had to be licensed from a car alarm company. An EU or US name has a trademark infringement if it can be put in a category (numbered above) where there is a previous trade use. "Popsicle" is a nice name, but also happens to be a trademark of a large company http://www.unileverusa.com/brands-in-action/detail/Popsicle-/296139/ - they will likely defend it's use to prevent it from becoming generic like many people think it is. In the UK, this is an "ice lolly". "Oink" sounds like a search engine.
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You would think "Phoenix" would be a word you could use, but it didn't fly, and neither did "Firebird", and then even "Firefox" took licensing agreements because a EU trademark turned up later. The Diamond "Viper" video card name had to be licensed from a car alarm company. A EU or US name has a trademark infringement if it can be put in a category (numbered above) where there is a previous trade use.
Are trademarks valid also for categories which are out of business for trademark holder? I mean - can Disney really protect "piglet" for some electronic gadget? Btw Honda Firebird is also motorbike and Dodge Viper is a car. I'm not affraid that Disney will go over us with USB gadget (as far as we won't misuse Disney's piglet images).
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You would think "Phoenix" would be a word you could use, but it didn't fly, and neither did "Firebird", and then even "Firefox" took licensing agreements because a EU trademark turned up later. The Diamond "Viper" video card name had to be licensed from a car alarm company. A EU or US name has a trademark infringement if it can be put in a category (numbered above) where there is a previous trade use.
Are trademarks valid also for categories which are out of business for trademark holder? I mean - can Disney really protect "piglet" for some electronic gadget? Disney does business in electronic gadgets, and they have a trademark in that business category. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi.t.com.com%2Fi%2Flumiere%2F2006%2F11%2F16%2F32133409-320-0-24799-20061116_130100-320x240.jpg&t=665&c=FotadlGU2gwcqg) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsite.accessorygeeks.com%2Fyswimages%2Fapple-iphone-piglet-plastic-cas.jpg&t=665&c=dL8qgWktwSBZeQ) Btw Honda Firebird is also motorbike and Dodge Viper is a car. I'm not affraid that Disney will go over us with USB gadget (as far as we won't misuse Disney's piglet images).
Viper the car is in a different category than computer peripherals, but Viper the car alarm was found to be in the same electronics category as a video card. This is an example of how different products will be found to occupy the same trademark category. Firebird the vehicle is a different product class than software, so using this name for something completely different would be fine if there was no trademark in the other area. Firebird also ended up being the same name as database software though, so the name was already taken in the same category. Thunderbird for an email reader doesn't infringe on Thunderbird the car. Firefox FAQ: Why did you choose Firebird in the first place?
With the assistance of attorneys we assessed other uses before selecting Firebird and did not consider these uses to be in the same domain as our web browser. It is very difficult to come up with a good name that is not also used by some other company or project, so choosing and verifying the availability of a name is a complicated process that involves many difficult judgment calls. If you have a small project, likely a large monolithic corporation won't come after you. That is, unless they are part of a large copyright and trademark cartel that enforces the status quo of media consumption and international limitation of free commerce, with lots of lawyers, and they don't like what you are doing.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_pig ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think you will be fine as long as you arent putting disney's characters in there. Also maybe Pig-let would work better (piglet being a combonation of piggiebank and wallet)
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Bounty is still open, although we slowly inclines to the "Piglet". There's no hurry in closing the bounty, but as far as there won't be a better proposal, we'll choose this.
If we'll choose "Piglet", I'm also going to pay for "Oink", because I'm quite sure I'll use such lovely name for something related :-D.
I knew there was a reason I liked you ^_^
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_pig ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think you will be fine as long as you arent putting disney's characters in there. Also maybe Pig-let would work better (piglet being a combonation of piggiebank and wallet) The characters and images are protected by copyright. The word and name is protected by trademark. You'd probably be fine because they'd never notice. I could make a "Zune" FPGA miner and might not get cease-and-desisted or sued by Microsoft, but the possibility is there.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Domestic_pig ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) I think you will be fine as long as you arent putting disney's characters in there. Also maybe Pig-let would work better (piglet being a combonation of piggiebank and wallet) The characters and images are protected by copyright. The word and name is protected by trademark. You'd probably be fine because they'd never notice. I could make a "Zune" FPGA miner and might not get cease-and-desisted or sued by Microsoft, but the possibility is there. That's insane, I think that being able to copyright the word "piglet" is idiotic
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Are trademarks valid also for categories which are out of business for trademark holder? I mean - can Disney really protect "piglet" for some electronic gadget?
Btw Honda Firebird is also motorbike and Dodge Viper is a car. I'm not affraid that Disney will go over us with USB gadget (as far as we won't misuse Disney's piglet images).
Just claim to be from China and you should be fine. ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) They are copyright exempt
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Kunekune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunekune.. pronounced coon-nee coon-nee is a small domestic pig from New Zealand, they are intelligent and sociable and widely used for pets ... mostly for farm kids of course. Kunekune are suitable for a novice owner as they are placid, friendly and love human company. They are intelligent and easy to train. Can't imagine that is copyrighted ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kunekune.co.nz%2Fimages%2Fwigs.jpg&t=665&c=AnqYqUoq3LhuDA) kunekune piglet ... comes in many colours http://www.kunekune.co.nz/forsale.html
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Kunekune http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunekune.. pronounced coon-nee coon-nee is a small domestic pig from New Zealand, they are intelligent and sociable and widely used for pets ... mostly for farm kids of course. Kunekune are suitable for a novice owner as they are placid, friendly and love human company. They are intelligent and easy to train. Can't imagine that is copyrighted ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kunekune.co.nz%2Fimages%2Fwigs.jpg&t=665&c=AnqYqUoq3LhuDA) kunekune piglet ... comes in many colours http://www.kunekune.co.nz/forsale.htmlCoinieKune Piglet?
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