Isreal prepares for war... again ?

[Bitware]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rofFA4_KOW4

[dotcom]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

[Werner]

how does US support other nation when it does not support US?

[Charlie Prime]

What's this video about?

[Lethn]

Israel - Proving since 1948 that war is nothing more than a dick waving competition



( I hope that date is right LOL )

[myrkul]

Israel - Proving since 1948 that war is nothing more than a dick waving competition



( I hope that date is right LOL )

^^^^^^^^
Couldn't be arsed to check wikipedia.... (Yes, it's 1948 )

[legitnick]

USA nukes Israel in 5.4.3.2.

[stochastic]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

What else would weapons be used for?

But do your research before commenting on where Israel gets it weapons.  It seems Israel likes to gear their military men and women with Glocks (Austria), Browning (Belgium), Baretta (Italy), H&K (Germany), and M4/M16 (USA).  They also have a large sizeable ammunition cache that originally was made in the Soviet Union.  This was obtained after defeating their enemies in war and capturing the weapons.  When getting to the sophisticated weapons, then that is mostly made in America, but where else would they get their fighter planes, Airbus?

[cedivad]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

What else would weapons be used for?

But do your research before commenting on where Israel gets it weapons.  It seems Israel likes to gear their military men and women with Glocks (Austria), Browning (Belgium), Baretta (Italy), H&K (Germany), and M4/M16 (USA).  They also have a large sizeable ammunition cache that originally was made in the Soviet Union.  This was obtained after defeating their enemies in war and capturing the weapons.  When getting to the sophisticated weapons, then that is mostly made in America, but where else would they get their fighter planes, Airbus?

You don't get it.
They pay the Italian weapons, they get the USA one for free along with tons of money.
Israel is a usefull tool in for the USA in the region.

My guess is that a war to Iran is really every day nearer.

[gyverlb]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

What else would weapons be used for?

But do your research before commenting on where Israel gets it weapons.  It seems Israel likes to gear their military men and women with Glocks (Austria), Browning (Belgium), Baretta (Italy), H&K (Germany), and M4/M16 (USA).  They also have a large sizeable ammunition cache that originally was made in the Soviet Union.  This was obtained after defeating their enemies in war and capturing the weapons.  When getting to the sophisticated weapons, then that is mostly made in America, but where else would they get their fighter planes, Airbus?

Airbus is too busy cutting into Boeing airliners business to enter the fighter planes one

Try Dassault instead if you are looking at other western countries (that can be made fun of). The Rafale was a good plane last time I checked. That said they don't seem very eager/or know how to sell it to foreign countries though (only a handful of aborted negotiations). It's probable that spendings on fighter jets is more driven by politics than technical reasons too. Just imagine what would happen if Israël announced that they decided to partner with Sukoy to design their next generation fighter plane...

One important thing is that they build all their UAVs themselves. Fighter planes might appeal to people (this is why it is a sensitive political subject), but UAVs will and have begun to gradually replace them.

[firefop]

Yah well... you know... arabs keep trying to kill them.

[dotcom]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

What else would weapons be used for?

But do your research before commenting on where Israel gets it weapons.  It seems Israel likes to gear their military men and women with Glocks (Austria), Browning (Belgium), Baretta (Italy), H&K (Germany), and M4/M16 (USA).  They also have a large sizeable ammunition cache that originally was made in the Soviet Union.  This was obtained after defeating their enemies in war and capturing the weapons.  When getting to the sophisticated weapons, then that is mostly made in America, but where else would they get their fighter planes, Airbus?

So what your saying is, I need to do my research because Israel doesn't get financial aid and weapons from the U.S., BUT Israel gets financial aid and weapons from the U.S.?

Makes sense.

[firefop]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

What else would weapons be used for?

But do your research before commenting on where Israel gets it weapons.  It seems Israel likes to gear their military men and women with Glocks (Austria), Browning (Belgium), Baretta (Italy), H&K (Germany), and M4/M16 (USA).  They also have a large sizeable ammunition cache that originally was made in the Soviet Union.  This was obtained after defeating their enemies in war and capturing the weapons.  When getting to the sophisticated weapons, then that is mostly made in America, but where else would they get their fighter planes, Airbus?

So what your saying is, I need to do my research because Israel doesn't get financial aid and weapons from the U.S., BUT Israel gets financial aid and weapons from the U.S.?

Makes sense.

Actually - I think he meant that you say "so much money and guns" well... the money being given isn't even one half of one percent of your national budget, and it's less than 3 percent of israels national budget. It really isn't much money when you compare it to all the other foreign aid the us provides.

As for guns, we trade with israel (who happens to be at the bleeding edge of weapons tech) They're getting known good hardware in exchange for designing manufacturing processes for new weapons tech. The fairness of this trade is debatable imo... but so far it seems to be working out well for both sides.

[dotcom]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

What else would weapons be used for?

But do your research before commenting on where Israel gets it weapons.  It seems Israel likes to gear their military men and women with Glocks (Austria), Browning (Belgium), Baretta (Italy), H&K (Germany), and M4/M16 (USA).  They also have a large sizeable ammunition cache that originally was made in the Soviet Union.  This was obtained after defeating their enemies in war and capturing the weapons.  When getting to the sophisticated weapons, then that is mostly made in America, but where else would they get their fighter planes, Airbus?

So what your saying is, I need to do my research because Israel doesn't get financial aid and weapons from the U.S., BUT Israel gets financial aid and weapons from the U.S.?

Makes sense.

Actually - I think he meant that you say "so much money and guns" well... the money being given isn't even one half of one percent of your national budget, and it's less than 3 percent of israels national budget. It really isn't much money when you compare it to all the other foreign aid the us provides.

As for guns, we trade with israel (who happens to be at the bleeding edge of weapons tech) They're getting known good hardware in exchange for designing manufacturing processes for new weapons tech. The fairness of this trade is debatable imo... but so far it seems to be working out well for both sides.

By population, we give more money to Israel than any other nation (except Afghanistan, which I don't agree with either). I think you guys are really missing the point here (which is amazing because it seems so obvious), we're aiding another country in it's own little wars for no reason. You're argument is "well it's really not THAT much". I don't give a fuck how much it is, $400 per Israeli citizen is a hell of a lot of money that could be going towards internal problems right now. But instead of using that money on ourselves we're just throwing it to another nation that spits on us so it can fight wars that we have no part in which just fuels the hate other nations in the region have for us so we can spend MORE money on fighting other wars in the region that we shouldn't be fighting in the first place (run-on sentence, I know). If we stop giving money to Israel will it solve all our financial problems here in the U.S.? Pry not. But it's one of thousands of instances in which we are throwing away money for no good reason and then complaining that we can't balance our budget.

As far as weapons go, since when is it o.k. to trade modern weapons to another nation so it can fight a small civilian population (that we have no quarrel with) that's using home-made bombs and rockets that half the time don't even work properly?

[cedivad]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

What else would weapons be used for?

But do your research before commenting on where Israel gets it weapons.  It seems Israel likes to gear their military men and women with Glocks (Austria), Browning (Belgium), Baretta (Italy), H&K (Germany), and M4/M16 (USA).  They also have a large sizeable ammunition cache that originally was made in the Soviet Union.  This was obtained after defeating their enemies in war and capturing the weapons.  When getting to the sophisticated weapons, then that is mostly made in America, but where else would they get their fighter planes, Airbus?

So what your saying is, I need to do my research because Israel doesn't get financial aid and weapons from the U.S., BUT Israel gets financial aid and weapons from the U.S.?

Makes sense.

Actually - I think he meant that you say "so much money and guns" well... the money being given isn't even one half of one percent of your national budget, and it's less than 3 percent of israels national budget. It really isn't much money when you compare it to all the other foreign aid the us provides.

As for guns, we trade with israel (who happens to be at the bleeding edge of weapons tech) They're getting known good hardware in exchange for designing manufacturing processes for new weapons tech. The fairness of this trade is debatable imo... but so far it seems to be working out well for both sides.

By population, we give more money to Israel than any other nation (except Afghanistan, which I don't agree with either). I think you guys are really missing the point here (which is amazing because it seems so obvious), we're aiding another country in it's own little wars for no reason. You're argument is "well it's really not THAT much". I don't give a fuck how much it is, $400 per Israeli citizen is a hell of a lot of money that could be going towards internal problems right now. But instead of using that money on ourselves we're just throwing it to another nation that spits on us so it can fight wars that we have no part in which just fuels the hate other nations in the region have for us so we can spend MORE money on fighting other wars in the region that we shouldn't be fighting in the first place (run-on sentence, I know). If we stop giving money to Israel will it solve all our financial problems here in the U.S.? Pry not. But it's one of thousands of instances in which we are throwing away money for no good reason and then complaining that we can't balance our budget.

As far as weapons go, since when is it o.k. to trade modern weapons to another nation so it can fight a small civilian population (that we have no quarrel with) that's using home-made bombs and rockets that half the time don't even work properly?

You are doing it

FOR YOUR OWN PROFIT.

You are not giving money for free to anyone.

Got it? It's simple!

[dotcom]

Ya I heard about that, it's such unnecessary bloodshed.

I also really wish the U.S. would stop giving so much money and guns to Israel. There's nothing that annoys me more than hearing about how other countries are using american-gifted weapons to kill their own enemies.

What else would weapons be used for?

But do your research before commenting on where Israel gets it weapons.  It seems Israel likes to gear their military men and women with Glocks (Austria), Browning (Belgium), Baretta (Italy), H&K (Germany), and M4/M16 (USA).  They also have a large sizeable ammunition cache that originally was made in the Soviet Union.  This was obtained after defeating their enemies in war and capturing the weapons.  When getting to the sophisticated weapons, then that is mostly made in America, but where else would they get their fighter planes, Airbus?

So what your saying is, I need to do my research because Israel doesn't get financial aid and weapons from the U.S., BUT Israel gets financial aid and weapons from the U.S.?

Makes sense.

Actually - I think he meant that you say "so much money and guns" well... the money being given isn't even one half of one percent of your national budget, and it's less than 3 percent of israels national budget. It really isn't much money when you compare it to all the other foreign aid the us provides.

As for guns, we trade with israel (who happens to be at the bleeding edge of weapons tech) They're getting known good hardware in exchange for designing manufacturing processes for new weapons tech. The fairness of this trade is debatable imo... but so far it seems to be working out well for both sides.

By population, we give more money to Israel than any other nation (except Afghanistan, which I don't agree with either). I think you guys are really missing the point here (which is amazing because it seems so obvious), we're aiding another country in it's own little wars for no reason. You're argument is "well it's really not THAT much". I don't give a fuck how much it is, $400 per Israeli citizen is a hell of a lot of money that could be going towards internal problems right now. But instead of using that money on ourselves we're just throwing it to another nation that spits on us so it can fight wars that we have no part in which just fuels the hate other nations in the region have for us so we can spend MORE money on fighting other wars in the region that we shouldn't be fighting in the first place (run-on sentence, I know). If we stop giving money to Israel will it solve all our financial problems here in the U.S.? Pry not. But it's one of thousands of instances in which we are throwing away money for no good reason and then complaining that we can't balance our budget.

As far as weapons go, since when is it o.k. to trade modern weapons to another nation so it can fight a small civilian population (that we have no quarrel with) that's using home-made bombs and rockets that half the time don't even work properly?

You are doing it

FOR YOUR OWN PROFIT.

You are not giving money for free to anyone.

Got it? It's simple!

>"You are not giving money for free to anyone."
>"You are not giving money for free"
>"not giving money for free"
>wat

They're paying us back plus interest? I didn't know man, i'm sorry.

[cedivad]

>"You are not giving money for free to anyone."
>"You are not giving money for free"
>"not giving money for free"
>wat

They're paying us back plus interest? I didn't know man, i'm sorry.

Are you serious?

Ever tough about why the Israel state was created and why there?

It doesn't touch you that somebody could have some little interested in the region?

This stuff is better than 3% yearly interests...

[dotcom]

>"You are not giving money for free to anyone."
>"You are not giving money for free"
>"not giving money for free"
>wat

They're paying us back plus interest? I didn't know man, i'm sorry.

Are you serious?

Ever tough about why the Israel state was created and why there?

It doesn't touch you that somebody could have some little interested in the region?

This stuff is better than 3% yearly interests...

I wish I understood what you wrote

[cedivad]

>"You are not giving money for free to anyone."
>"You are not giving money for free"
>"not giving money for free"
>wat

They're paying us back plus interest? I didn't know man, i'm sorry.

Are you serious?

Ever tough about why the Israel state was created and why there?

It doesn't touch you that somebody could have some little interested in the region?

This stuff is better than 3% yearly interests...

I wish I understood what you wrote

Nevermind.

[mai77]

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