BitStone (BST) -GemStones 4 Sale With BST - BTC MINERS FOR BST [OLD and LOCKED]

[Paul Revere]

That was in April. Did Bitstonedev , aka Dr. Keith Harville , aka Whocarez,  contact you then? How long have you known Dr. Keith Harville?  Also, is this an address associated with you? 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS ?  

Thank you for coming forward to explain your involvement with the Bitstone Operation, which appears to be a blatant fraud scam run by a proven liar, and I look forward to your reply.

Here is what I can be certain of.  The first mention of BitStone in my private messages was ~ a week ago.  I could find no communication with BitStoneDev prior to that.  I initially turned them down as that is my standard reply to altcoins looking for an escrow agent.  My first communication to BitStoneDev, regarding purchasing a silver bar, was made on December 2nd.  It was at that time I understood they were looking for someone to escrow their goods and not their altcoin release.  I then expressed an interest to get involved so that myself and others would be able to safely take advantage of their silver discount.  

I have no involvement with the BitStone operation outside of escrowing purchases of their goods.  I am not aware of anyone using the name Dr. Keith Harvile.  I have no idea who owns the address 1DVpZFrHcnpGcyDhPuAevP9o4K8FiBDAdS and it has no association with me.  

I am merely offering my escrow services to buyers who would like to purchase their goods safely, the same as I do for most members of this forum who request it.  The only difference is that I am offering it free of charge for the buyers in this case.  

I see. So you did not know that Bitstonedev was Dr. Keith Harville, and all of your dealings with his other sock puppet accounts- many of which he has positively identified- were simply with those other accounts and no mention or discussion about Bitstone ever occurred until these PMs that you are speaking of? Also, how is it that your first contact with Keith Harville, aka Bitstonedev, was made via PM? Did he just randomly pick you to contact after never having had contact with you before?

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[OgNasty]

I see. So you did not know that Bitstonedev was Dr. Keith Harville, and all of your dealings with his other sock puppet accounts- many of which he has positively identified- were simply with those other accounts and no mention or discussion about Bitstone ever occurred until these PMs that you are speaking of? Also, how is it that your first contact with Keith Harville, aka Bitstonedev, was made via PM? Did he just randomly pick you to contact after never having had contact with you before?

BitStoneDev has not identified himself to me as Dr. Keith Harville, nor do I care what his name is or what alts he uses.  BitStoneDev did not reach out to me, I reached out to him.  Another member of this forum mentioned BitStone in a PM asking if I would provide escrow for them, which I replied that I had no intention of providing escrow for an altcoin and then took a look at their thread.  It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

[Xian01]

It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.

[OgNasty]

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

... and <to allow members here to safely> purchase silver below spot. Got it.

FTFY

[Paul Revere]

I see. So you did not know that Bitstonedev was Dr. Keith Harville, and all of your dealings with his other sock puppet accounts- many of which he has positively identified- were simply with those other accounts and no mention or discussion about Bitstone ever occurred until these PMs that you are speaking of? Also, how is it that your first contact with Keith Harville, aka Bitstonedev, was made via PM? Did he just randomly pick you to contact after never having had contact with you before?

BitStoneDev has not identified himself to me as Dr. Keith Harville, nor do I care what his name is or what alts he uses.  BitStoneDev did not reach out to me, I reached out to him.  Another member of this forum mentioned BitStone in a PM asking if I would provide escrow for them, which I replied that I had no intention of providing escrow for an altcoin and then took a look at their thread.  It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

I see. Thank you for being so kind as to spend the time to clear up your association with Bitstone, Dr. Keith Harville and Bitstonedev. I do have another question or two though, if I may ask. You are clearly saying that Bitstonedev was never identified to you as Dr. Keith Harville. Were you aware of the association of any of the accounts that he uses here with Bitstone before you received this unsolicited offer from Bitstonedev? Also, there seems to be a few ways in which Dr. Keith Harville, aka Kilo17, aka Whocarez, aka Bitstonedev, and perhaps more accounts, identifies himself . He has submitted the Bitstone commits with the misspelling of his name "Kieth Harville" and he also sometimes refers to himself as Dr. Keith Harville, MD, as well as some other variants of the name / doctor presentation. Were you aware of the association of any of Bitstonedevs other accounts being associated with/being either Bitstonedev, any variant of Dr. Keith Harville's name, or the Bitstone coin?  

[NextGenCrypto]

I see. So you did not know that Bitstonedev was Dr. Keith Harville, and all of your dealings with his other sock puppet accounts- many of which he has positively identified- were simply with those other accounts and no mention or discussion about Bitstone ever occurred until these PMs that you are speaking of? Also, how is it that your first contact with Keith Harville, aka Bitstonedev, was made via PM? Did he just randomly pick you to contact after never having had contact with you before?

BitStoneDev has not identified himself to me as Dr. Keith Harville, nor do I care what his name is or what alts he uses.  BitStoneDev did not reach out to me, I reached out to him.  Another member of this forum mentioned BitStone in a PM asking if I would provide escrow for them, which I replied that I had no intention of providing escrow for an altcoin and then took a look at their thread.  It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

I see. Thank you for being so kind as to spend the time to clear up your association with Bitstone, Dr. Keith Harville and Bitstonedev. I do have another question or two though, if I may ask. You are clearly saying that Bitstonedev was never identified to you as Dr. Keith Harville. Were you aware of the association of any of the accounts that he uses here with Bitstone before you received this unsolicited offer from Bitstonedev? Also, there seems to be a few ways in which Dr. Keith Harville, aka Kilo17, aka Whocarez, aka Bitstonedev, and perhaps more accounts, identifies himself . He has submitted the Bitstone commits with the misspelling of his name "Kieth Harville" and he also sometimes refers to himself as Dr. Keith Harville, MD, as well as some other variants of the name / doctor presentation. Were you aware of the association of any of Bitstonedevs other accounts being associated with/being either Bitstonedev, any variant of Dr. Keith Harville's name, or the Bitstone coin?  

I thought Spoetnik was the biggest no life, low life on this forum, but the past few days you've sure earned that title.  Congratulations.

[OgNasty]

I see. Thank you for being so kind as to spend the time to clear up your association with Bitstone, Dr. Keith Harville and Bitstonedev. I do have another question or two though, if I may ask...

You're welcome.  

Let me make this simple.  I am not aware of, nor do I care about anyone's real name or what alternate accounts they use on these forums.  

[kilo17]

This will be the only post from me on this this thread using this account, all future comments will be made by me or another member of the BitStone Team using the BitStoneDev account as has been done up to this point.  

I am Keith Harville M.D. (kilo17) and yes I am on the BitStone Team.  Another member of the team submitted the commits for me as I do not code and I am unfamiliar with the process.  I will ask the other team members if the name on the commit can be corrected. If the misspelling of my name cannot be corrected please let this post serve to show that I am responsible.  

EDIT- Sorry OgNasty you have been dragged into this and I appreciate the escrow service .

[suchmoon]

This will be the only post from me on this this thread using this account, all future comments will be made by me or another member of the BitStone Team using the BitStoneDev account as has been done up to this point.  

I am Keith Harville M.D. (kilo17) and yes I am on the BitStone Team.  Another member of the team submitted the commits for me as I do not code and I am unfamiliar with the process.  I will ask the other team members if the name on the commit can be corrected. If the misspelling of my name cannot be corrected please let this post serve to show that I am responsible.  

EDIT- Sorry OgNasty you have been dragged into this and I appreciate the escrow service .

Excellent. Can you now log into your FukMoon account and show that you have the 10 BTC.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1278868.msg13173493#msg13173493

This doesn't reflect well on your ability to deliver.

[Paul Revere]

I see. Thank you for being so kind as to spend the time to clear up your association with Bitstone, Dr. Keith Harville and Bitstonedev. I do have another question or two though, if I may ask...

You're welcome.  

Let me make this simple.  I am not aware of, nor do I care about anyone's real name or what alternate accounts they use on these forums.  

Fair enough. Just to be clear, you can see that there are some people questioning why you are involved with Bitstones, which appears to be a Matrix type of Pyramid Scheme. I thought that it might be best if I put forth some of the obvious questions in a clear, concise , and respectable manner to try to clear this up. Thank you for your responses.

Just to let you know some background with Keith and myself. If you are not aware, a brand new "totally not Keith Harville  " account here is offering a bounty to identify both Suchmoon and myself. I have received a lot of harassment , LOTS of blatant attacks upon my character with no substantiation, and even some threats over the past year, some of this coming from close associates of Dr. Keith Harville during the time period when dead animals were being mailed to Mike Johnson of Coinfire by someone in the Hashtalk crowd of fucking creeps and imbeciles where Keith liked to hang out during the height of the Paycoin fraud operation. Although I have been concerned and pretty pissed off over one or two threats in particular, I did not view them as legitimate threats to the safety of my family and myself. If and when he successfully pays to identify me, I am going to have to rethink that. I prefer to handle my own affairs and the rare occasions that I have had to contact any law enforcement agency in the last half century or so have been due to necessity as in filing an insurance claim , reporting an emergency, or when I feel that there is something beyond what I can do personally. I suspect that this anonymous person who just made this account offering a bounty to  identify Suchmoon and myself so that we would be open to both cyber/internet and even real world attacks is someone associated with Bitstone, perhaps even Keith Harville himself. If that is the case, I feel that what he is doing is criminal intimidation in support of what is likely a fraud operation, even if I am not positively identified. IANAL though. If I am positively identified I think my best course of action might be to contact these folks and let them know my concerns.
If anyone else has a better suggestion, please let me know.

[iFUD4BTC]

Fair enough. Just to be clear, you can see that there are some people questioning why you are involved with Bitstones, which appears to be a Matrix type of Pyramid Scheme. I thought that it might be best if I put forth some of the obvious questions in a clear, concise , and respectable manner to try to clear this up. Thank you for your responses.

Just to let you know some background with Keith and myself. If you are not aware, a brand new "totally not Keith Harville  " account here is offering a bounty to identify both Suchmoon and myself. I have received a lot of harassment , LOTS of blatant attacks upon my character with no substantiation, and even some threats over the past year, some of this coming from close associates of Dr. Keith Harville during the time period when dead animals were being mailed to Mike Johnson of Coinfire by someone in the Hashtalk crowd of fucking creeps and imbeciles where Keith liked to hang out during the height of the Paycoin fraud operation. Although I have been concerned and pretty pissed off over one or two threats in particular, I did not view them as legitimate threats to the safety of my family and myself. If and when he successfully pays to identify me, I am going to have to rethink that. I prefer to handle my own affairs and the rare occasions that I have had to contact any law enforcement agency in the last half century or so have been due to necessity as in filing an insurance claim , reporting an emergency, or when I feel that there is something beyond what I can do personally. I suspect that this anonymous person who just made this account offering a bounty to  identify Suchmoon and myself so that we would be open to both cyber/internet and even real world attacks is someone associated with Bitstone, perhaps even Keith Harville himself. If that is the case, I feel that what he is doing is criminal intimidation in support of what is likely a fraud operation, even if I am not positively identified. IANAL though. If I am positively identified I think my best course of action might be to contact these folks and let them know my concerns.
If anyone else has a better suggestion, please let me know.

bitch if you cant take the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen

fucking cry baby

[Paul Revere]

Fair enough. Just to be clear, you can see that there are some people questioning why you are involved with Bitstones, which appears to be a Matrix type of Pyramid Scheme. I thought that it might be best if I put forth some of the obvious questions in a clear, concise , and respectable manner to try to clear this up. Thank you for your responses.

Just to let you know some background with Keith and myself. If you are not aware, a brand new "totally not Keith Harville  " account here is offering a bounty to identify both Suchmoon and myself. I have received a lot of harassment , LOTS of blatant attacks upon my character with no substantiation, and even some threats over the past year, some of this coming from close associates of Dr. Keith Harville during the time period when dead animals were being mailed to Mike Johnson of Coinfire by someone in the Hashtalk crowd of fucking creeps and imbeciles where Keith liked to hang out during the height of the Paycoin fraud operation. Although I have been concerned and pretty pissed off over one or two threats in particular, I did not view them as legitimate threats to the safety of my family and myself. If and when he successfully pays to identify me, I am going to have to rethink that. I prefer to handle my own affairs and the rare occasions that I have had to contact any law enforcement agency in the last half century or so have been due to necessity as in filing an insurance claim , reporting an emergency, or when I feel that there is something beyond what I can do personally. I suspect that this anonymous person who just made this account offering a bounty to  identify Suchmoon and myself so that we would be open to both cyber/internet and even real world attacks is someone associated with Bitstone, perhaps even Keith Harville himself. If that is the case, I feel that what he is doing is criminal intimidation in support of what is likely a fraud operation, even if I am not positively identified. IANAL though. If I am positively identified I think my best course of action might be to contact these folks and let them know my concerns.
If anyone else has a better suggestion, please let me know.

bitch if you cant take the heat get the fuck out of the kitchen

fucking cry baby

Excuse me, kind sir, but I think you have misunderstood what I have said. I am not going anywhere. If this is how Keith wants to proceed then that is where it will lead. This is honest and not meant to be derogatory: I suspect that Keith Harville is mentally unstable or perhaps under the influence of drugs, as evidenced in his posts. And now it appears that he may be targeting me because I am exposing his Bitstone Operation, which appears, based on the information available, to be a fraud scheme. At that point I have to put my family first and swallow my pride and ask for help.  That was the point I was trying to make, which you seem to have missed somehow.  

[buckrogers]

It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.

Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.

Have you guys no shame?

You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.

This just goes to show that these guys have no interest in finding out any truths, you are simply are trying to do what you always do, which is annoy people.

I saw suchmoon post something along the lines of "how much should I buy"

Buy whatever you want, no one is forcing you to, and at the same time how can you try to create negative feedback or a synthetic lack of appeal on a good you didn't or wont buy?  Stop with all this nonsense and accusations you guys, its embarrassing (for you).


If the OP is selling goods and a trusted escrow is going to handle the transaction, then so be it.  It happens every day on this forum.

Everything else on that topic has no bearing here.

If you are trying to dig up info on all the developers of all the coins in the world you will always find something to debate. Did you guys ever think of running with a presidential campaign? I think you would be great on the dirt and smear campaigns.

thanks!

[Paul Revere]

It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.

My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.

Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.

Have you guys no shame?

You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.

This just goes to show that these guys have no interest in finding out any truths, you are simply are trying to do what you always do, which is annoy people.

I saw suchmoon post something along the lines of "how much should I buy"

Buy whatever you want, no one is forcing you to, and at the same time how can you try to create negative feedback or a synthetic lack of appeal on a good you didn't or wont buy?  Stop with all this nonsense and accusations you guys, its embarrassing (for you).


If the OP is selling goods and a trusted escrow is going to handle the transaction, then so be it.  It happens every day on this forum.

Everything else on that topic has no bearing here.

If you are trying to dig up info on all the developers of all the coins in the world you will always find something to debate. Did you guys ever think of running with a presidential campaign? I think you would be great on the dirt and smear campaigns.

thanks!

Keith seems to think he can do and say anything he wants regarding this operation and that magically makes it ok and legal. Unlike him, I have received actual real threats- some from his close associates. If he wants to openly threaten the safety of myself and my family and engage in what appears to be criminal intimidation in support of what appears to be a blatant fraud scheme, I can assure you that I am not going to do nothing. If that bothers you, tough shit.

If he decides to proceed with what appears to me to be an intentional act of criminal intimidation, I suggest investing in Popcorn Coin because it will get interesting when all of Keith's sock puppet accounts and such are exposed and a fuller picture of the Bitstones operation will become clear.

Disclaimer: I made up the name Popcorn Coin, so if it actually exists disregard my advice. 

[Xian01]

It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.

Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.
Have you guys no shame?
You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.

Yep. Questioning one of the most respected escrows on these forums, when he's (un?)wittingly involved himself in a confidence scam, is shameful behavior alright. How will I ever be able to look at myself in the mirror again ?!?

Where is your shame for not seeing this scheme for what it really is ?

I won't even bother touching on the regulatory issues this coin is likely to face, should authorities decide to investigate; Anyone remember the hassle the physical Bitcoin guys went through for a while, way back when ?

It's like people don't learn from history around here or something.

[BitStoneDev]

Hello Community,

As we stated in previous comments, the BitStone Team planned to host miners on a BTC mining pool of our choice to contribute to a forever going means of buy support.

This is beneficial for many reasons. These miners will take care of the 1% a month POS inflation along with continuous buy pressure as we set up support with the miners earnings on a day to day basis.

Yes, that is correct. The BitStone Team will post a daily update from what are Avalon 6 Miners are producing on a day to day basis, then use that BTC to fill the buy books on the exchange.

We feel over time the $30-$40 in BTC the 13TH +/- in Avalons mine per day will be a great benefit to the long term price stability we planned to have for BST.

Few shots of our miners in action on BitMinter as of right now:



See them for yourself as our worker name is "BitStoneFund"

https://bitminter.com/livestats/big
  
We also want to let the community know that we will be honoring a Holidays Savings Price Break for all BitStone Store Inventory.

For the rest of year we will be offering even more savings on our inventory and you can count on seeing more value given to the BitStone currency regardless of market price on exchanges.

Yes, that is right....more details on this soon.

Thanks,

BitStoneDev

[Xian01]

The BitStone Team will post a daily update from what are Avalon 6 Miners are producing on a day to day basis, then use that BTC to fill the buy books on the exchange.
We feel over time the $30-$40 in BTC the 13TH +/- in Avalons mine per day will be a great benefit to the long term price stability we planned to have for BST.

How often are you reinvesting in more mining equipment ? Your mining operations will not sustain $30-$40 per day for very long with the difficulty constantly rising.

[suchmoon]

Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.

Have you guys no shame?

You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.

This just goes to show that these guys have no interest in finding out any truths, you are simply are trying to do what you always do, which is annoy people.

I saw suchmoon post something along the lines of "how much should I buy"

Buy whatever you want, no one is forcing you to, and at the same time how can you try to create negative feedback or a synthetic lack of appeal on a good you didn't or wont buy?  Stop with all this nonsense and accusations you guys, its embarrassing (for you).


If the OP is selling goods and a trusted escrow is going to handle the transaction, then so be it.  It happens every day on this forum.

Everything else on that topic has no bearing here.

If you are trying to dig up info on all the developers of all the coins in the world you will always find something to debate. Did you guys ever think of running with a presidential campaign? I think you would be great on the dirt and smear campaigns.

thanks!

You seem to have a reading comprehension problem, no wonder you get into these scams without due diligence.

Nowhere did I say anything about OgNasty, and I do respect his position in this, i.e. ensure the transaction goes smoothly should someone choose to buy from "Kieth".

Whether he's putting his reputation on the line - I don't know, I guess that's what escrows do. If there were no shady deals and no risk we wouldn't need escrow. I don't have a significant concern of collusion or any other shady dealings here. There just seems to be some of the usual sleazeball tactics by "Kieth" - it's a gift, then it's a payment, etc etc. The thing to watch is what happens when the first few escrow transactions are complete - will "Kieth" try to say "I'm trustworthy now send me your moneys directly" or smth like that.

Regarding me buying the coins - that was in direct response TO YOU:

If not then you are not a potential customer, and you are not being solicited, and probably why you are on his ignore list.

This fallacy is very popular as an excuse for not addressing legitimate concerns. And you know what - in the past I've put my money in some of these questionable entities just to show how absurd that is. They never disappoint. None of these sleazy "entrepreneurs" treat you any better whether you're a customer/investor/etc or not.

So it's a fair question - do you really think investing in BitStone would "unignore" me and answer my questions, perhaps even call off the doxing? I think it's the other way around, the expectation is that only the most gullible would invest, therefore serious questions would never arise. But I'd like to hear your interpretation.

[BitStoneDev]

The BitStone Team will post a daily update from what are Avalon 6 Miners are producing on a day to day basis, then use that BTC to fill the buy books on the exchange.
We feel over time the $30-$40 in BTC the 13TH +/- in Avalons mine per day will be a great benefit to the long term price stability we planned to have for BST.

How often are you reinvesting in more mining equipment ? Your mining operations will not sustain $30-$40 per day for very long with the difficulty constantly rising.

We have multiple miners running in our warehouse now, and when that difficulty rises..we can run over to a rack with a laptop and eth into them and configure more to run under the BitStoneFund worker on BitMinter. Would take us 5-10 mins tops.

We actually planned on doing that within the next week, and hope to bring it up to about $60 a day earnings for BST market support.

The Avalon 6's fluctuate a lot, and sometimes we run 14 TH/s on that set, and sometimes it drops to the high 8's.

Thanks,

BitStoneDev

[buckrogers]

It was seeing their offer of silver below spot that made me reach out to them and decide to become involved as I wanted to purchase one for myself and wanted to use escrow.
My involvement here is to keep buyers of their physical goods safe.  Period.

... and purchase silver below spot. Got it.

Seriously Xian01, Paul Revere, and suchmoon.
Have you guys no shame?
You attack everyone here, even one of the oldest and trusted escrows on this forum.

Yep. Questioning one of the most respected escrows on these forums, when he's (un?)wittingly involved himself in a confidence scam, is shameful behavior alright. How will I ever be able to look at myself in the mirror again ?!?

Where is your shame for not seeing this scheme for what it really is ?

I won't even bother touching on the regulatory issues this coin is likely to face, should authorities decide to investigate; Anyone remember the hassle the physical Bitcoin guys went through for a while, way back when ?

It's like people don't learn from history around here or something.

Your line of questioning was extremely rude, and inappropriate.

Unless you have actual facts this this is a "confidence scam" than you have just insulted one of the most trusted people on bitcointalk without any proof.

So I would suggest before you look too foolish, that you let things play out before you throw out accusations at top members of this forum.

I would bet that a large percentage of members here have done a thing or two in their day, so basing a "scam" on something speculative, is not that intelligent.

I could be wrong, I will state that now, but I have no PROOF or reason at this point in time BEFORE the store is even open, and orders have been processed, to call this a scam.

I have definitely been wrong in the past, in a big way with GAW, and I came back to this forum to apologize to anyone I may have insulted, and was open to a requested Q & A, by someone I didn't even know....I was ridiculed none the less, with lines like tough shit, we don't care, and more childish remarks from so called people who care about the welfare of their families....see above comments.

It didn't bother me, as I moved on with my ventures, but these people have not, and insist on insulting people without any rationale.

This a far cry from a GAW scam IMO, they were operating for over 6 months and delivering on their goods and promises, before Josh went AWOL in the head.

The bitstone store isn't even up yet to my knowledge and no orders have been taken. I would be happy to order some various items, and see if this is the real deal.  

If not, they you guys can all call scam until you turn blue in the face.

thanks!