Antminer S8 ?

[RichBC]

The only option to make an S8 miner is to make a more efficient miner with the same BM1385 28nm chip. Now i can see the logic to create something like S8 (only speculating). After the halving, it is very possible to be hard to find a profitable miner, and Bitmain could decide to create a new miner running with a low frequency; perphaps 250Mhs or 350Mhs and a longer string. They could reach to something like 0.15 or 0.20 w/gh (maybe 0.18 w/gh)? a miner with 350 chips, doing 6 Th/s and draining 1100w?

But if they wanted to do that all they need to do is to turn down the voltage & frequency on a 135 chip S7. It just needs a change to a Byte in the code running on the PIC that controls the voltage.


Rich

So it could be done easilly?

I think so, what I do not know is where you can get to with the Hash Rate & Efficiency?

This thread details a repair / mod to the S7 Hash Board that freplaces the PIC with a potentiometer that enables you to adjust the core voltage which gives the same result as changing the code in the PIC

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1420909.0

Rich

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[QuintLeo]

Wouldn't be an S8 - and I doubt there ever will be an S8 for the same reasons there never was an S6.

 I could see a faint possibility of an S7- :

 More chips per board, running the BM1385 at it's most efficient point.
 Probably 2/3ds as many strings as an S7 due to needing more chips for the efficient string operating point.

 Very long shot, 2 boards instead of 3 - but that might be an "S7- Lite" instead, which would be a LONG OVERDUE actual home miner but the price point would have to be too low to make it viable to Bitmain as a product given how cheap they've had to drop the S7 to.



 S9 would be the "next gen" Bitmain chip - and it better show up a lot sooner than a year from now or Bitfury among a couple others aren't going to leave them any market TO share, unless that "next gen" Bitmain chip and mners based on it are noticeably more efficient than anything then on the market.


 Clock rate has almost ZERO effect on efficiency, efficiency is almost ALL about the voltage you run the chip at - thus the need for "more chips per string" to maximise the efficiency of the BM1385 in a potential future miner.

[j1pvt]

Apparently MiningSweden has bought S9s
the launch should be just around the corner

[vortexz]

Apparently MiningSweden has bought S9s
the launch should be just around the corner

proof ?

[Blitzboy]

I never heard that antminer release a s8 and i think it needs more power consumption. and i think its not recommend for now.. Because its not profitable unless the s8 is cheap and the your power is free..
S9 impossible never heard it..

[ps_jb]

I never heard that antminer release a s8 and i think it needs more power consumption. and i think its not recommend for now.. Because its not profitable unless the s8 is cheap and the your power is free..
S9 impossible never heard it..

There are rumors that some Sweden got S9. I was not told exact name of pool - but Sweden was pronounced

Maybe that is just a campaign to drop S7 price down

[IanFoxley]

I looked in my crystal ball and saw the Antminer S9 on sale before July

 

[IanFoxley]

I never heard that antminer release a s8 and i think it needs more power consumption. and i think its not recommend for now.. Because its not profitable unless the s8 is cheap and the your power is free..
S9 impossible never heard it..

There are rumors that some Sweden got S9. I was not told exact name of pool - but Sweden was pronounced

Maybe that is just a campaign to drop S7 price down

Not rumours.

Mining Sweden are selling S9 hashpower preorders on their website. Make of that what you will.

[IanFoxley]

Apparently MiningSweden has bought S9s
the launch should be just around the corner

proof ?

Only proof right now is on the Mining Sweden website.

They did S7 hashpower preorders a month or two before the S7 got released. So if you go by that, then it could mean the Antminer S9 could be on sale within a month or two.

Difference is this time Bitmain are keeping quiet on it so whether Mining Sweden have just left the cat out the bag bigtime, who knows for sure.

[philipma1957]

Apparently MiningSweden has bought S9s
the launch should be just around the corner

proof ?

Only proof right now is on the Mining Sweden website.

They did S7 hashpower preorders a month or two before the S7 got released. So if you go by that, then it could mean the Antminer S9 could be on sale within a month or two.

Difference is this time Bitmain are keeping quiet on it so whether Mining Sweden have just left the cat out the bag bigtime, who knows for sure.

what cat these are simply preorders on cloud mining.

100 share of 20gh = 2000gh or 2th  of a s-9  that does not pay until they come.


 2000gh for a year earns about  705 back

 without a 1/2ing


they want 598 for the 2000gh good luck with buying that.

[5h4do3]

all the release dates, tech,etc etc is all going to depend on BTC price after halving.

[QuintLeo]

Dragon A2's were beasts I'm not knocking them I know some data centers they were put on a ton of stress... and lived.  They were really good miners, only thing they lacked was a nice PSU.  Assuming LKETC a2 eventually a PSU dying was kinda common.

 Yeah, I've had one PS die already (no idea how old the miner was, used unit from Zoomhash PS died on first turning - they DID compensate me for it, bit of miscommunication issues but no real hassle).
 I find a Seasonic X1250 is a VERY VERY good fit in place of the stock unit - it's a bit longer, but the fan lines up with the hole in the side of the case well and the modular connectors you NEED to put in have enough clearance to work well.
 EVGA 1300 G2 does NOT fit well (it's a little longer than the X1250), the fan hole doesn't line up nearly as well *AND* clearances on the cables are so bloody tight you pretty much would have to move the controller board to avoid shorting stuff out from cables rubbing against sharp things pretty quickly.

 Both have PLENTY of power to run A2 Mega Terminator units as a nicely high overclock.



 I don't think an S9 by July is likely - but I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, and it's certainly not impossible (Bitmain DID announce they were working on their next-gen chip at the same time as they released the S7 after all).

[IanFoxley]

 I don't think an S9 by July is likely - but I wouldn't mind being proven wrong, and it's certainly not impossible (Bitmain DID announce they were working on their next-gen chip at the same time as they released the S7 after all).

June at least, or earlier

[kahir]

I'm guessing (hoping) we don't see an S8 until July of 2016.  I would expect we'd see something like 8TH/s @ 1250 watts.

i'm expecting 10 TH/S for 1000 watts   maybe around nov this year after halving

[paradoxum]

I'm guessing (hoping) we don't see an S8 until July of 2016.  I would expect we'd see something like 8TH/s @ 1250 watts.

i'm expecting 10 TH/S for 1000 watts   maybe around nov this year after halving

I still think we're a year off before we reach effective 1TH/100w - at least on 110V miners. 240V rigs will be closer to that goal.

[QuintLeo]

In theory, if you set up a miner with a buck setup to run a string of the new BitFury chips, it COULD hit the mystical 100w/TH mark - but I suspect most miners using it will opt for fewer chips = higher hashrate per chip = lower $/hash at the cost of efficiency.

 Same reason you don't see the BM1585 (or any other mining chip Bitmain made) getting close to IT'S max efficiency - fewer chips = lower cost per TH = bigger performance = more folks WANT the miner even if it's not max on efficiency (which is what killed Spondoolies, they made GOOD tuneable miners but too many folks wanted low cost/MH).

[RichBC]

Same reason you don't see the BM1585 (or any other mining chip Bitmain made) getting close to IT'S max efficiency - fewer chips = lower cost per TH = bigger performance = more folks WANT the miner even if it's not max on efficiency (which is what killed Spondoolies, they made GOOD tuneable miners but too many folks wanted low cost/MH).

I agree we are not seeing them hit their best efficiency because the main market for them has very low electricity cost and what matters is how fast they hash rather that the last ounce of efficiency. S1, S3 & S5 all were able to be pushed to significant efficiency improvements and I am sure that S7 could see a big gain as well, but they would rather just sell the next generation.


Rich

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Rumors on the BTC ether:

S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.

https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/

They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.

Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers

$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares

Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)

$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
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Product Description

We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.

2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.

This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm

[Amph]

Rumors on the BTC ether:

S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.

https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/

They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.

Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers

$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares

Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)

$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
--------------------------
Product Description

We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.

2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.

This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm

can you buy it directly? what are the spec of this new s9?

[notlist3d]

Rumors on the BTC ether:

S9 builds already out of stock, the Swedes already bought them all.

https://www.miningsweden.se/product/mining-shares-200-gh-s9-antminers/

They forgot some zero's here & there in the descriptions of the hashing power to rent via the so called S9 capabilities.

Mining Shares 200 GH – S9 Antminers

$49.95
SKU: MS9200 Category: Mining Shares

Company-share
Mining Sweden Antminer S9 2000GH Shares (MS9)

$479.00
SKU: MS92000 Category: Mining Shares
--------------------------
Product Description

We have now information about that the new S9 miner soon will come out on the market so now you can preorder your mining shares with the new S9 Miners.

2000 GH S9 Mining including all costs for 12 months.

This product doesn’t start mining before we have them in the farm

can you buy it directly? what are the spec of this new s9?

It's a cloud site trying to get buzz with this sale.  They offer NO details on S9 let alone a date it comes online.  So they are offering a certain amount of a S9... they don't even need to know final specs to do this.

It all seems very shady to me personally.  I would not pre-order "Mining Shares" just due to them putting up a S9 sale that offers no details.