Electric cigarettes

[Lauda]

lol I don't mind being proven wrong, I have to say though I'm still suspicious though because I'd need to know about the links these guys have to any tobacco companies and which government officials are looking at this before I 99% believe it, when I see people pushing for something so heavily I'm often very skeptical about it.

Nobody is "really" pushing for this. Actually there were a lot of "studies" saying that it might even be worse than cigarettes which is completely wrong. Such companies were either using low grade vaping equipment or low quality liquids (don't buy things from unknown companies). Tobacco companies can't really increase their profits if smokers switch to this because the costs are lower in comparison to smoking. A person that bought a pack each day should have no problem with using only 5ml (or two) of liquid bi-weekly. In other words $4 (let's say this is the price, can be higher or lower depending where one lives) x 14 = 56$ in comparison to $5 (which is how much 5ml usually costs).

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[knightkon]

There is still to much unknown about e-cigs.  This unknown factor is what is going to hurt people in the long run and because of this, sooner or later they will be suing over the damages caused to your body because of it.  Just my opinion.

[lanbo]

There is still to much unknown about e-cigs.  This unknown factor is what is going to hurt people in the long run and because of this, sooner or later they will be suing over the damages caused to your body because of it.  Just my opinion.

Base from what I've read somewhere some initial findings suggest that e-cigs can really do cause serious potential health problem like cancer.

[Lauda]

There is still to much unknown about e-cigs.  This unknown factor is what is going to hurt people in the long run and because of this, sooner or later they will be suing over the damages caused to your body because of it.  Just my opinion.

Base from what I've read somewhere some initial findings suggest that e-cigs can really do cause serious potential health problem like cancer.

Enough already. This is starting to become worse than people saying "bacon causes cancer". What you read is irrelevant (unless you post the sources); the chances of it being proper research are slim to none (as rarely anyone ever does). You do realize that nobody ever claimed that they do not cause cancer? When they say 95% healthier than cigarettes, they aren't implying there are no long term effect nor that it does't cause cancer. Regardless, they are safe enough or at least better than cigarettes. People who have not switched over or have switched over with low quality gear should not talking at all. I remember the days of coughing up so much tar, while some say they're worse.  

i actually have never done electric cigarettes so i dont know the difference

Then why are you posting?

[lanbo]

There is still to much unknown about e-cigs.  This unknown factor is what is going to hurt people in the long run and because of this, sooner or later they will be suing over the damages caused to your body because of it.  Just my opinion.

Base from what I've read somewhere some initial findings suggest that e-cigs can really do cause serious potential health problem like cancer.

Enough already. This is starting to become worse than people saying "bacon causes cancer". What you read is irrelevant (unless you post the sources); the chances of it being proper research are slim to none (as rarely anyone ever does). You do realize that nobody ever claimed that they do not cause cancer? When they say 95% healthier than cigarettes, they aren't implying there are no long term effect nor that it does't cause cancer. Regardless, they are safe enough or at least better than cigarettes. People who have not switched over or have switched over with low quality gear should not talking at all. I remember the days of coughing up so much tar, while some say they're worse.  

According to an independent study it contain cancer causing agents.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/05/the-poison-in-your-e-cigarettes.html

[cooldgamer]

There is still to much unknown about e-cigs.  This unknown factor is what is going to hurt people in the long run and because of this, sooner or later they will be suing over the damages caused to your body because of it.  Just my opinion.

Base from what I've read somewhere some initial findings suggest that e-cigs can really do cause serious potential health problem like cancer.

Enough already. This is starting to become worse than people saying "bacon causes cancer". What you read is irrelevant (unless you post the sources); the chances of it being proper research are slim to none (as rarely anyone ever does). You do realize that nobody ever claimed that they do not cause cancer? When they say 95% healthier than cigarettes, they aren't implying there are no long term effect nor that it does't cause cancer. Regardless, they are safe enough or at least better than cigarettes. People who have not switched over or have switched over with low quality gear should not talking at all. I remember the days of coughing up so much tar, while some say they're worse.  

According to an independent study it contain cancer causing agents.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/05/the-poison-in-your-e-cigarettes.html

http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php/whats-new/whatsnew-2015/225-ceh

OP, buy yourself a nice mod like the Subox Mini.  60 bucks for all you need to start except juice.  Most of the people above that didn't like vaping probably had some cheap gear. There will be a detox period from the nasty stuff in cigs, but after that you should feel much better

Healthwise we don't have long term info on the effects.  However, it's hard to be worse than cigarettes.

Use low nic juice or make it a point to go outside and increasing addiction won't be much of an issue.

[Lauda]

According to an independent study it contain cancer causing agents.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/09/05/the-poison-in-your-e-cigarettes.html

Nonsense. Most of this "claimed" research that makes them look bad is financed by tobacco companies and is completely wrong. Why do you think they take the worst liquid producers when they do those "studies"? Liquid used for vaping does not have cancer causing agents; just because some companies include them that does not mean that vaping is unsafe.


Obviously the right one is going to cause trouble (and that's the kind that they use in these "vaping is dangerous studies"). Unfortunately people like you are easily deluded by mainstream media into thinking what capitalists want. While vaping might not be safe (as in no health effects at all), it is much safer than smoking. You can't deny it.

http://www.ecigarette-research.org/research/index.php/whats-new/whatsnew-2015/225-ceh

OP, buy yourself a nice mod like the Subox Mini.  60 bucks for all you need to start except juice.  Most of the people above that didn't like vaping probably had some cheap gear. There will be a detox period from the nasty stuff in cigs, but after that you should feel much better

Healthwise we don't have long term info on the effects.  However, it's hard to be worse than cigarettes.
Use low nic juice or make it a point to go outside and increasing addiction won't be much of an issue.

Finally someone understands it. To add up on the 'low nic juice' part: you can buy liquids that have 0 mg of nicotine (yes, that's a zero).
Small note: I haven't looked into the liquid on the picture. I don't know if that information is true (specifically to that liquid brand), but that is irrelevant. The point should be pretty clear.

[maartenhaha]

dont think will hep anyhow.

If u like to smoke smoke real thing, this electronic "things" are evil. I dont know how people can even smoke this things, its just crazy.

I think its not really help about our health.. and it can cause canser..

no it will not
i even hear and read in some cases some people got more addicted to nicotine after puffing that electric smokepole some time, because of reasons..
like it doesn't smell "bad" as regular smokepoling you can puff moar and stuff..

Useless post farming. Ignore them.

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Moving from one smoke to an electrical version of that smoke, even if it lacks most of the harmful chemicals, is not any better for your habit.

It is not? The day that I bought my vaping kit I stopped smoking. I'm reducing my nicotine dosage slowly to 0 mg. Once I am at 0mg, what is your point exactly?

why is it useless postfarming and why should it be ignored? elaborate
because you're staff fancy 12k posts? because no links to back it up?
why?
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Op do you live with someone?
instead of replacing the real thing, why not try to keep it at morning coffee, after dinner and maybe after you accomplished something good? specially the last one, after time you'll be thinking lesser about it.

with my last gf, she used to smoke before we knew eachother, she never said or made fuzz about my habbits, she let me smoke inside, but i mostly went outside anyway, after time i almost didn't smoke anymore. now it's over i still do this way and i even enjoy i more then i used to do.

[healer]

Thats a bad idea of those e-cigarettee, but lets see ..

[Lauda]

why is it useless postfarming and why should it be ignored? elaborate
because you're staff fancy 12k posts? because no links to back it up?
why?

Because everything that they've said is wrong and I've disproved it; you would know if you had read my previous posts. E-cigs are not dangerous especially in comparison to traditional cigarettes. They are not even addictive at all, it is the person who decides on if they want nicotine or not. This is because there are 0 mg nicotine liquids and anyone is free to buy them at the same price as the ones with high amounts of nicotine.
I've pretty much hammered down every single "potential argument" against them here. Most of these other posts are statements, not arguments nor evidence.

[Lauda]

Thats a bad idea of those e-cigarettee, but lets see ..

The study has shown that electronic cigarettes do produce considerable levels of highly reactive free radicals capable of causing cancer and other diseases as well as damaging cells, although these levels are still 1000 to 100 times lower than those produced by regular cigarettes, as the scientists claim in the paper published in the journal Chemical Research in Toxicology.

Very unhealthy indeed.  

[bizerinm]

Liquid poison..who knows what is inside?? In some countries are forbidden now..if you want to smoke smoke normal cigarettes,tompus,cigarilos..but don't take this crap

[Lauda]

Liquid poison..who knows what is inside?? In some countries are forbidden now..if you want to smoke smoke normal cigarettes,tompus,cigarilos..but don't take this crap

I suggest that you stop with the signature spam or you will most likely get banned. Your post is nonsense. Vaping is apparently beyond your mental comprehension.

[hahay]

Do they really helped you to quit cigarettes

I'm smoking about 2 years, its not too much but now I'm starting to worry about cancer it can cause. But every morning I woke up and thinking to light one so I did it. And I'm thinking to switch to electric cigarettes.
So I'm asking if there is anyone with experience, can tell me are they really helping to quit smoking and are they more or less healthy.
Thanks

electric cigarette will not help you to quit smoking, so if you want to quit smoking try to reduce its, IMO.

[Lauda]

electric cigarette will not help you to quit smoking, so if you want to quit smoking try to reduce its, IMO.

Of course it will. What are you talking about? When it comes to the liquid for your vape pen you can choose the nicotine dosage and flavors. You can start off high to satisfy a heavy smoker and then keep reducing it  every few weeks (12 -> 9 -> 6 -> 3 -> 0 mg). Eventually you lose the addiction to nicotine and you can either vape at 0 mg if you like it or stop completely. This works much better than any other method (e.g. patches, gums). I've been through this process and know a few people that are halfway there.

[CoinInvestorZ]

They are not helping.
Only cigarettes worth mention - green one

[hahay]

electric cigarette will not help you to quit smoking, so if you want to quit smoking try to reduce its, IMO.

Of course it will. What are you talking about? When it comes to the liquid for your vape pen you can choose the nicotine dosage and flavors. You can start off high to satisfy a heavy smoker and then keep reducing it  every few weeks (12 -> 9 -> 6 -> 3 -> 0 mg). Eventually you lose the addiction to nicotine and you can either vape at 0 mg if you like it or stop completely. This works much better than any other method (e.g. patches, gums). I've been through this process and know a few people that are halfway there.

I honestly do not know what it vape pen but I ever not smoked for 3-4 days and I can. it all depends on your own intentions what percentage you want to quit smoking? if you have a strong intention to quit smoking I'm sure you can.

[Lauda]

They are not helping.
Only cigarettes worth mention - green one

Stop posting nonsense.

I honestly do not know what it vape pen but I ever not smoked for 3-4 days and I can. it all depends on your own intentions what percentage you want to quit smoking? if you have a strong intention to quit smoking I'm sure you can.

You could say that they're advanced version of electric cigarettes. Read this. You can quit smoking without any help obviously, however vaporizers help you enormously. You've got two choices: 1) Quit smoking and vaping; 2) Switch from smoking to vaping. Both options are much better than smoking.

[criptix]

hey people,

i started to vape for a while now and got me some new hardware to christmas.

I'm a proud owner of a RX200 and a Cuboid. Right now im using a Uwell Crown, TFV4 and a Melo 2 for my different liquids.

It is awesome and im completely cigarette free for around 1 month now.


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Pro advice: Dont buy cheap 10 $ stuff - it's pretty shit imo. Just pay 30$ bucks more and buy a real vaping device/regulated mod.

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Reddit has a pretty big community definitely worth to visit it atleast once.

[maskott]

12 years smoking -> 1 year vaporizing, now proud non-smoker.
It helps.