Selling accounts on this forum is correct or not

[maku]

'Correct' is not the good term to use in this context. Selling accounts is technically legal - but I guess it is only because there is no way to determine if account was sold or not.
I wonder if there was a 100% way to know if account was sold then it would still be popular or legal.

[mixan]

Voted yes. selling accounts supports signature campaign and if there is no signature campaign there will be much less traffic here in forum

This is very true. I would think it accounts for 65% of the traffic on here. With out them existing I think the practice of selling accounts would weither away because they would not be worth as much.

[mixan]

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EDIT : I just voted but why I can't see the results or anything on the poll ?

When creating the poll, OP selected: Only show the results after the poll has expired.

I voted yes. Reason being accounts are hardly if ever used for scamming or spamming. Accounts are rather expensive and with the community being quite cautious, escrow can be used or message are requested to be signed from an old address. It is very hard for any scammer to scam with an account bought. The change in posting times, style and sudden activity are clear indications. Spamming wise, accounts are usually marked with a high price and if any user scams, they would be banned from the forum, it's a waste of money. Farming accounts is rather bad but the community here requests high quality accounts for signature campaigns and most seller's don't spam up the forum due to this. Banning selling of accounts is too hard and would just push it underground. I personally sold several accounts and they were mostly used to spam constructively and none were used to scam. That's speaking from my personal experience though.

Yes, it is correct. Results will be shown only after the end of the poll otherwise people may change mind. So we will wait until poll finish to see the results.

I'm going with no considering that there has been some scams where sold accounts were used to scam, one example that comes to my mind is coinbooster. The sifter account was most likely a bought account.
And if anyone notices has a look at my recent posts they can tell that I usually do not interfere in selling of accounts but allowing account sales to happen is not the same as supporting/encouraging it.

If some one want to scam he/she will surely find a ways to do that but I don't think if any one sell accounts without green trusted accounts they can easily scam any one.

We shouldn't make it easy just because scammers and people who intend to do bad things are going to find ways of doing it that's why I voted NO to make it harder for scammers. Afterall you don't need to buy an account here, you can create an account like you are supposed to do and start posting like you are supposed to do.

But it is just the amount of time spent in order to get to that level the account buyer wants is the problem.
Why wait for 5-6 months if they have the amount of btc to pay for one now? That is what I am thinking this buyers are wanting from all of this in the first place, that time spent is more valuable to them then the btc.

[fruito]

Voted, this is my another work for looking some bits here very helpful for me, YES!

[XinXan]

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EDIT : I just voted but why I can't see the results or anything on the poll ?

When creating the poll, OP selected: Only show the results after the poll has expired.

I voted yes. Reason being accounts are hardly if ever used for scamming or spamming. Accounts are rather expensive and with the community being quite cautious, escrow can be used or message are requested to be signed from an old address. It is very hard for any scammer to scam with an account bought. The change in posting times, style and sudden activity are clear indications. Spamming wise, accounts are usually marked with a high price and if any user scams, they would be banned from the forum, it's a waste of money. Farming accounts is rather bad but the community here requests high quality accounts for signature campaigns and most seller's don't spam up the forum due to this. Banning selling of accounts is too hard and would just push it underground. I personally sold several accounts and they were mostly used to spam constructively and none were used to scam. That's speaking from my personal experience though.

Yes, it is correct. Results will be shown only after the end of the poll otherwise people may change mind. So we will wait until poll finish to see the results.

I'm going with no considering that there has been some scams where sold accounts were used to scam, one example that comes to my mind is coinbooster. The sifter account was most likely a bought account.
And if anyone notices has a look at my recent posts they can tell that I usually do not interfere in selling of accounts but allowing account sales to happen is not the same as supporting/encouraging it.

If some one want to scam he/she will surely find a ways to do that but I don't think if any one sell accounts without green trusted accounts they can easily scam any one.

We shouldn't make it easy just because scammers and people who intend to do bad things are going to find ways of doing it that's why I voted NO to make it harder for scammers. Afterall you don't need to buy an account here, you can create an account like you are supposed to do and start posting like you are supposed to do.

But it is just the amount of time spent in order to get to that level the account buyer wants is the problem.
Why wait for 5-6 months if they have the amount of btc to pay for one now? That is what I am thinking this buyers are wanting from all of this in the first place, that time spent is more valuable to them then the btc.

Because everyone has waited that time, it's not fair that someone can just buy a high level account when other people had to wait months for it. The buyers can easily wait 1-2 months and be able to do pretty much anything, afterall this is a forum and the ranks were supposed to be just an indicative.

[Amph]

yes if there is a proper signing of the address and the account does not come with trust, to not allow for scamming

they are usually used only for sig campaign at this point

[mixan]

yes if there is a proper signing of the address and the account does not come with trust, to not allow for scamming

they are usually used only for sig campaign at this point

But most of the new sig campaigns are not legit, just look at blackfridaydeals, they just became defunct on their last day of payouts. Those campaigns that promise high payouts usually can't pay out their members or just disappear without paying at the end of their run.

[InvoKing]

- Are you supporting selling accounts on this forum?
I don't mind and I prefer to see the accounts sold here by known members rather than being sold by newbies(1) or in other forums/sites(2) which (1) is happening actually in an increasing rates.

Thoses accounts will likely be used to join a signature compaign -> what is the problem? Once he started spamming he will get banned. (and i am supporting a severe punishment in this specific case)
Thoses accounts will be used to scam other members -> simply do not trust anyone here if he didn't use an escrow service (to keep a part of his money on it just in case) else use it at your own risk...

[GannickusX]

- Are you supporting selling accounts on this forum?
I don't mind and I prefer to see the accounts sold here by known members rather than being sold by newbies(1) or in other forums/sites(2) which (1) is happening actually in an increasing rates.

Thoses accounts will likely be used to join a signature compaign -> what is the problem? Once he started spamming he will get banned. (and i am supporting a severe punishment in this specific case)
Thoses accounts will be used to scam other members -> simply do not trust anyone here if he didn't use an escrow service (to keep a part of his money on it just in case) else use it at your own risk...

Why make it easier for sig farmers/spammers? Not all sig spammers get banned that easily and trust me I have seen plenty that are not banned and still active because not all of them are so obvious like the ones spamming in off-topic.

[Fwdxlsh]

Who cares? I say do as you please as long as you are not scamming anyone.

[Mickeyb]

I don't know what to think about account selling to be honest! I guess that I have nothing against it. But trust should be reset to neutral during each account sale. Selling of trust is a big NO NO in my opinion since the trust is really the only way to have any confidence in members around here!

[Athertle]

I don't know what to think about account selling to be honest! I guess that I have nothing against it. But trust should be reset to neutral during each account sale. Selling of trust is a big NO NO in my opinion since the trust is really the only way to have any confidence in members around here!

I recently talked with a guy who had an account with positive trust and was planning to sell it, and he told me that he didn't tell anyone simply because he knew you could make a lot more money selling with positive trust. Humans are naturally greedy and it's a lost cause hoping that they'll turn away extra money.

[wisecoin]

I would say NO, since trust is a long term process to be achieved and just can't be bought.. Since I'm new to these forums, I'll have to build it by myself
But I understand the persons willing to sell.. years of work - must be valuable to them.

Can't even vote on this topic with my low ratings, lol.

[ranochigo]

I don't know what to think about account selling to be honest! I guess that I have nothing against it. But trust should be reset to neutral during each account sale. Selling of trust is a big NO NO in my opinion since the trust is really the only way to have any confidence in members around here!

I recently talked with a guy who had an account with positive trust and was planning to sell it, and he told me that he didn't tell anyone simply because he knew you could make a lot more money selling with positive trust. Humans are naturally greedy and it's a lost cause hoping that they'll turn away extra money.

There is little market for selling accounts with trust. Main reason being that almost all of the users are buying it for signature campaign. Secondly, it's easy to detect the change of ownership with address and posting styles. There is much more market for accounts with constructive post since many campaign now requires it.

[Laosai]

Hmm, I voted yes cuz I used to sell accounts before that I got as a collateral from defaulted loans and I also got some for cheaper prices (I stopped it right cuz you know ) I can't see anything bad or illegal about it, its discouraged though. Its actually good for me , as a seller cuz I earn profit and probably will also be good for buyers that actively participate and want to earn some BTC on sig campaigns with higher rank accounts.

[orryde]

I voted yes because For me Selling accounts in this forum help people who do not use forum anymore or just leave the world bitcoin from here people will take a profit from selling those account. But the people or seller must have attention to who he should sell it, to avoid things that something negative happens. If this happen the first owner will get the problem

[tss]

sadly, since then, the feedbacks have been changed and the user in question is no longer red.  

regardless, the forum is not here to regulate your actions (this would prove very difficult and futile)

people can run scams and receive trust ratings yet still are able to post and continue their activities on the site.

although scamming is not supported, it can not be regulated or stopped.  same goes for account selling and farming.  that is the only reason (i think) why it is allowed to go on.

people on default trust list and others can leave feedback to any other members strictly based on their opinions and how they feel that day..

that is self regulation.

[Xialla]

it is correct - NO
is there any direct way how to change it - NO
is there any indirect way how to change it - YES. just disable signature campaigns at it will fix situation faster, than you can even imagine

[Xapodat]

Who cares? I say do as you please as long as you are not scamming anyone.

Scamming is the problem. Selling account is not. Make it clear that an account is bought and do not tag negative to the bought account. This will be a good business for the forum.

[Mickeyb]

I don't know what to think about account selling to be honest! I guess that I have nothing against it. But trust should be reset to neutral during each account sale. Selling of trust is a big NO NO in my opinion since the trust is really the only way to have any confidence in members around here!

I recently talked with a guy who had an account with positive trust and was planning to sell it, and he told me that he didn't tell anyone simply because he knew you could make a lot more money selling with positive trust. Humans are naturally greedy and it's a lost cause hoping that they'll turn away extra money.

There is little market for selling accounts with trust. Main reason being that almost all of the users are buying it for signature campaign. Secondly, it's easy to detect the change of ownership with address and posting styles. There is much more market for accounts with constructive post since many campaign now requires it.

Still I am sure that many people get away with it and I don't think this is fair! Trust should never be sold, but that's human greed as we all know it. I guess no system is perfect!