EskimoBob - Possibly lied about owning YARR

[augustocroppo]

After a long smear campaing against Usagi's business, Eskimobob decided that it was time to show off his talents for the Bitcointalk forum. Eskimobob had given up the old pyramid scheme to sell imaginary tokens!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102010

Some of my friends are planning to set up their own art studio. To make it happen, they need to buy very specific equipment. (...) Plan is to sell virtual Support Tokens. Please, do not confuse this with a security. It is not. (...) Yes, we can have really bad months and earn close to nothing. Summer can be the worst time because pole are on long vacations. (...) So, The Plan is to rise about 15K EUR worth of crowdfunding and for that, we are selling up to 34 000 virtual Support Tokens.

This proposal is blatantly inconsistent and fraudulent. A close reading of Eskimobob's posts reveals the intention to defraud the potential investors. For example:

I think here you got it wrong. I do not run assets-otc and business I run is not illegal. My business in NOT selling the tokens. BTW, GLBSE was a only a market. All the stuff sold there was not legal in USA - basically everything offered in this forum. (...) I think we need to remove the promise to share profits and this will fix the problem. BTW, this "problem" will be eliminated soon by Jumpstart Our Business Startups Act

Notice the last sentence where Eskimobob affirms that 'this "problem" will be eliminated soon by Jumpstart Our Business Startups Act'. The problem cited by Eskimobob regards the method to share the profits. He is deceiving the potential investors into believeing that the USA federal government will secure the financial instrument he is offering. At the same time, he is indirectly proposing to investors that his enterprise will be fully supported by USA laws. This proposal is deceitful because Eskimobob does not reside in USA territory.

The two last paragraphs of the contract offered by Eskimobob are remarkable:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=102010.msg1285534#msg1285534

D. FORCE MAJEURE

1. Issuer or manager(s) shall not be liable for any failure to perform its obligations where such failure is as a result of Acts of Nature (including fire, flood, earthquake, storm, hurricane or other natural disaster), war, invasion, act of foreign enemies, hostilities (whether war is declared or not), civil war, rebellion, revolution, insurrection, military or usurped power or confiscation, terrorist activities, nationalisation, government sanction, blockage, embargo, labour dispute, strike, lockout or interruption or failure of electricity [or telephone service], and no other Party will have a right to terminate this Agreement under Clause 19 (Termination) in such circumstances."

2. Any Party asserting Force Majeure as an excuse shall have the burden of proving that reasonable steps were taken (under the circumstances) to minimize delay or damages caused by foreseeable events, that all non-excused obligations were substantially fulfilled, and that the other Party was timely notified of the likelihood or actual occurrence which would justify such an assertion, so that other prudent precautions could be contemplated.

In other words, Eskimobob included in the contract terms which have no meaning for the financial instrument he is offering. He is offering a term which only protects him: 'Issuer or manager(s) shall not be liable...'. Then he proceeds to commit a mistake: 'Any Party asserting Force Majeure as an excuse shall have the burden of proving..". These terms are contradictory. This is a fraudulent term which allows him to refute full liability for any loss incurred in his management with a shallow excuse: 'interruption or failure of electricity...'

Eskimobob plagiarized the last paragraphs of his contract from a sample published in Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_majeure

Sample clause

The following is an example of how force majeure might be described in a specific contract.
Clause 19.

Force Majeure
A party is not liable for failure to perform the party's obligations if such failure is as a result of Acts of God (including fire, flood, earthquake, storm, hurricane or other natural disaster), war, invasion, act of foreign enemies, hostilities (regardless of whether war is declared), civil war, rebellion, revolution, insurrection, military or usurped power or confiscation, terrorist activities, nationalisation, government sanction, blockage, embargo, labor dispute, strike, lockout or interruption or failure of electricity or telephone service. No party is entitled to terminate this Agreement under Clause 17 (Termination) in such circumstances.

If a party asserts Force Majeure as an excuse for failure to perform the party's obligation, then the nonperforming party must prove that the party took reasonable steps to minimize delay or damages caused by foreseeable events, that the party substantially fulfilled all non-excused obligations, and that the other party was timely notified of the likelihood or actual occurrence of an event described in Clause 19 (Force Majeure).

Force Majure is part of contract law:

http://www.lexology.com/library/detail.aspx?g=96337601-469c-4c89-a8da-67da226f84ee

FIDIC

In Clause 19 of the FIDIC 1999 Red2, Yellow3 and Silver4 Books, the term "Force Majeure" is principally identified as being an "exceptional" event or circumstance, beyond the Party's control, and something that it could not have reasonably provided against before entering into the Contract.

FIDIC (International Federation of Consulting Engineers):

http://fidic.org/about-fidic

FIDIC also publishes business practice documents such as policy statements, position papers, guidelines, training manuals and training resource kits in the areas of management systems (quality management, risk management, business integrity management, environment management, sustainability) and business processes (consultant selection, quality based selection, tendering, procurement, insurance, liability, technology transfer, capacity building).

The sample which Eskimobob plagiarized comes from a publication by an association of engineers. This proves that Eskimobob intentionally manipulated data to create a fraudulent contract.

Moreover, Eskimobob does not have any qualifications to manage a financial portfolio. Eskimobob is also known as Krokodill_G, or Krokodill Geena.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=23664.msg307700#msg307700

I joined this adventure 1 days ago and at the moment I have 8 members in my minipool @ https://Krokodill.triplemining.com/

This is Eskimobob's first message, an advertisement full of enthusiasm about his mining pool! He invited the readers to participate in this new fair share enterprise, guaranteed by the participation of 8 fictional members.

It turned out that the fair share enterprise was similar to a pyramid scheme. The developer of the Triplemining enterprise was even caught with stolen data:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=26549

BTW: You stole that banner from Panda, lol. You even leeched off his photobucket account. But I guess parasites will find a shortcut for everything.

This is Eskimobob twitter account:

https://twitter.com/Krokodill_G

Krokodill Geena
@Krokodill_G
I am the best thing that ever happened to your spam infested timeline. #Bitcoin #innovation #economy #technology #foss. BTW. I am filthy rich and good looking

Krokodill Gena's favorite hobby is to produce spam. He also appreciates playing poker as a passtime:

http://www.intellipoker.ee/leagues/Open-League/leaderboard?username=Krokodillg&user_id=3110394&month=-2

http://lv.donkr.com/Poker/Tournament/569323030

http://www.intellipoker.com.br/leagues/Open-League/leaderboard?username=Krokodillg&user_id=3110394

Krokodill Gena is apparently living in Estonia:

http://www.amur.eu/user/KrokodillG.html

Name Krokodill Gena
City Tartu
Country Estonia
University Tartu Ülikool (TÜ)
Education выcшee oбpaзoвaниe

Krokodill Gena is also known as Tundmatu Sõdur (Unknown Soldier):

http://www.minut.ee/comments.pl?sid=91657&cid=108508

Re:Esimene Eestis, kes BTC kasutusele võttis?
by Tundmatu Sõdur 15:43 2. juuli, 2011 (#108508)
Esimene blokk on leitud! BTC kantakse kõigile laiali, kes osalesid https://krokodill.triplemining.com/ kaevandamises.

http://www.facebook.com/tundmatu.sodur

Tundmatu Sõdur
Lives in Kesklinn

He is a student at an institute of history and archaeology:

http://ut-ee.academia.edu/TS

T S
University of Tartu, Ajaloo ja arheoloogia instituut, Faculty Member

[Bitcoin Oz]

And eskimobob was the one that probably had the influence on nefario so that he started to give out the asset info. Why should he do this while knowing at the same time that this would reveal to you that he scammed you? That makes no sense. So im sure he had 9 Yarr but they got sold without he being able to know it. No scamtry happened.

Very good point. It will be amusing to see how usagi's delusional thinking will try to reason his way out of this one again.

Simple; if EskimoBob forces the issue of his claim when there is clear proof he is lying, then he is a fraud, and I will not be processing his claim. He has said he will find out why his name is not on the list. This means he recognizes the validity of my complaint. I do in fact have a right to ask for proof he owns the shares.

Give him time to provide the proof he said he would.

SebastianJu, good point.

Usagi, I have not forced the issue in any way. All I did was I told you that I hold 9 YARR's because the sales order was never filled (at least I am not aware of it and the coin never arrived to my account, after the GLBSE closed. Guess how you responded?
You started to call me names and immediately accused me of lying and scamming your. 
I posted a thread "Good news... " Guess how you replied -  you called me a liar
You started your Nyan etc thread and you called me a liar  - you still had no proof what so ever, that I have ever lied. This is my 8th? time. Show me a post where I have lied. So far you have not responded to my request.
Di james tell you that the list is complete or did he tell you that the list is not complete? No matter, you call me a liar and accuse me of scamming you.
I mean, wtf man! Get a grip on yourself.

So, because you have no idea wtf is really going on, why don't you change the subject of this thread to something less inaccurate? 
At the moment, only liar here is you, usagi.

Did you try to claim any coins ?

[augustocroppo]

Eskimobob caught lying and trying to defraud a broker for 5 BTC:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110352.msg1204645#msg1204645

Contract reads like it's written by a 12 year old
Verification: None

Can I send you 5000 coins? If yes, please send me 5 BTC to 1KLhpqL3QGi4a78scb4bonHybrm5iSsoTz to confirm you wish to be blessed.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110352.msg1208936#msg1208936

I made a joke few pages back abut 5 BTC to get my blessing.
Guess what, this joker sent me 0.0005 BTC and the account number for 5000 BTC transfer.
Those guys are either scammers or this is just another joke on BTC community greed and stupidity.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=110352.msg1209289#msg1209289

I made a joke few pages back abut 5 BTC to get my blessing.
Guess what, this joker sent me 0.0005 BTC and the account number for 5000 BTC transfer.
Those guys are either scammers or this is just another joke on BTC community greed and stupidity.

EsikmoBob, since you have admitted that you indeed had checked the address, you're a fool who was fooled. The investors who dare to take a little bit on this venture is much much more smart than you.

Attached is the PM history between me and EskimoBob. Smart people won't waste their time to check the address as they can know it is only a parody joke. And after my replying that the 0.0005 BTC was generated by my "mind power", he still persisted publicly here that the coin is sent by me. So my investors, you can guess the EQ level of EsikmoBob. So he trolls me and you are buying my share, I think you are not necessarily wrong.

EsikmoBob, I don't know who sent you the 0.0005BTC. It's not me. (Actually, I am not even sure whether there is really a tip coins donated to you. I don't care.) I have reminded you to check the address first to prevent you from being fool enough to send the 5000 coins right away.

Contract reads like it's written by a 12 year old
Verification: None

Can I send you 5000 coins? If yes, please send me 5 BTC to 1KLhpqL3QGi4a78scb4bonHybrm5iSsoTz to confirm you wish to be blessed.

 

Hello, EskimoBob,

Do you really want to invest so much money in my business? There is risk and you have to think about it seriously. I have sent 5 BTC to your address  and please check it. If you receive the coin and you have not changed your mind, please send 5,000 BTC to this address:

1ChQrwWvGoxSjSaj7cNdgGsqXADAMYTTqi

Thanks.

I only see a transfer of 0.0005 BTC, not 5 BTC.  This is only 10 000 times less than 5

So you really need my blessing? You know that I am not X priest, yes?

Unlike Uri can kill an animal with his thoughts, my mind power can generate 0.0005BTC transaction so far.

[repentance]

Eskimobob caught lying and trying to defraud a broker for 5 BTC:

The irony of you condemning anyone for posting misleading or false information about service providers is rich.

[cunicula]

Eskimobob caught lying and trying to defraud a broker for 5 BTC:

The irony of you condemning anyone for posting misleading or false information about service providers is rich.

You dare to criticize augustocroppo, the People's Libertarian Hero, beloved of Theymos and sharer of his hobbies.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121093.msg1336091#msg1336091

That is unwise. Augusto is a Nazi sympathizer. He may investigate your racial purity.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=121093.msg1344022#msg1344022

[Beans]

Bottom line is, Eskimobob is a bottom feeding piece of garbage. The only thing surprising in this thread is that he only claimed to have 9.

[EskimoBob]

I guess:

Guilty Until Proven Innocent

 augustocroppo, get your dates and facts straight. Then start blabbering and passing judgments.
Facts first, then the rest.

just in case: A fact (derived from the Latin factum, see below) is something that has really occurred or is actually the case. The usual test for a statement of fact is verifiability, that is whether it can be proven to correspond to experience. Standard reference works are often used to check facts. Scientific facts are verified by repeatable experiments.

At this moment, none of you can actually call me a scammer or a liar. All you can to is stroke your puny egos and congratulate yourself on those fine delusions you have.
In a few words: you are just trolling

 

[stochastic]

Nefario has told Meni that the asset lists are not complete.  It is not only GLBSE users that did not file claims or got double payments, some users that filed their claims and did not receive double payments are also not on the lists.  I can also say this is a fact as I tried to verify if I was in the list of an asset I held but the issuer said I was not and that there are many other people like me.

The lists are inaccurate.  We are dealing with the same person that sent over a thousand bitcoins to the people that already received their coins.  You can look in the posted GLBSE history to see if the shares were sold or not.

[SebastianJu]

Not only people that didnt claim their shares at glbse yet or people that still held double payment but also other people? You sure that arent only persons that set their shares to sell and didnt know that these shares were sold between their last check and the close of glbse.com? That would be strange because to do this you would need to manually take out users from the sql-generated list.

[MPOE-PR]

Nefario has told Meni that the asset lists are not complete.  It is not only GLBSE users that did not file claims or got double payments, some users that filed their claims and did not receive double payments are also not on the lists.  I can also say this is a fact as I tried to verify if I was in the list of an asset I held but the issuer said I was not and that there are many other people like me.

The lists are inaccurate.  We are dealing with the same person that sent over a thousand bitcoins to the people that already received their coins.  You can look in the posted GLBSE history to see if the shares were sold or not.

Sad.

[Bitcoin Oz]

A decentralized exchange just makes it easier for scammers to operate. I cant believe people actually want to provide tools that make it easier to do so.

Are you fucking nuts ?

[Zeeks]

Not only people that didnt claim their shares at glbse yet or people that still held double payment but also other people? You sure that arent only persons that set their shares to sell and didnt know that these shares were sold between their last check and the close of glbse.com? That would be strange because to do this you would need to manually take out users from the sql-generated list.

This is someone who took over a week to make a script that would send out Bitcoins to their proper owners based on a database he already had. Then he flubbed the script which sent out incorrect amounts and double payments. Then he disappeared again for weeks saying he couldn't send more money before he got back most of what he sent in error even though it amounts to a very small amount compared to what is left to be paid...

Not exactly dealing with a genius.

[SebastianJu]

Not only people that didnt claim their shares at glbse yet or people that still held double payment but also other people? You sure that arent only persons that set their shares to sell and didnt know that these shares were sold between their last check and the close of glbse.com? That would be strange because to do this you would need to manually take out users from the sql-generated list.

This is someone who took over a week to make a script that would send out Bitcoins to their proper owners based on a database he already had. Then he flubbed the script which sent out incorrect amounts and double payments. Then he disappeared again for weeks saying he couldn't send more money before he got back most of what he sent in error even though it amounts to a very small amount compared to what is left to be paid...

Not exactly dealing with a genius.

Sounds right but the double payment error looks a bit easier to happen to me. He seems to start paying the btc out manually and then created the script. And he didnt think about that some of them already got a payment. He didnt test it and so the double payments happened in my opinion. Not the smartest move but that users arent in the list that neither are double payment holder nor users that didnt ask for their infos are something more than that. I mean asking the database has to give you exactly the real and correct users. Taking out the users that had double payment and the users that didnt request the infos most probably has to happen manually. So i dont see why there should be more than these users are missing in the list. He has to use some strange way to create them or so. I dont know. But i cant see how this can be explained as an error.