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November 21, 2012, 10:49:13 PM |
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That and the fact BFL probably already cashed out to USD. |
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November 21, 2012, 10:51:59 PM |
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Yes BFL should get a scammer tag.
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Frizz23
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November 21, 2012, 10:53:32 PM |
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And wtf has BFL to do with pirate and his mostly retard clients thinking there is a thing called free money? Running out of arguments?
LOL  ... that was meant to be sarcastic, right? Or a joke. Please tell me you are not that dumb ... . . . . . . . . . . . Yeah what has BFL " and his mostly retard clients thinking there is a thing called free money" ? |
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SLok
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November 21, 2012, 11:00:59 PM |
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And wtf has BFL to do with pirate and his mostly retard clients thinking there is a thing called free money? Running out of arguments?
LOL ... that was meant to be sarcastic, right? Or a joke. Please tell me you are not that dumb ... I see, you were one of the clowns that did! ps: 40 GH/s -> 60 GH/s = +50%, professor Frizz |
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November 21, 2012, 11:02:02 PM |
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Oh hell  .........these guy's have 4 days off folks,its gonna be fun   |
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November 21, 2012, 11:26:21 PM |
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That and the fact BFL probably already cashed out to USD. Refund is in current USD equivalent, so all they'd have to do is rebuy bitcoins with the same USD. |
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November 22, 2012, 02:24:03 AM |
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Oh hell .........these guy's have 4 days off folks,its gonna be fun Look who else earns a well-deserved holiday:  |
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November 22, 2012, 05:43:28 AM |
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Oh hell .........these guy's have 4 days off folks,its gonna be fun Look who else earns a well-deserved holiday: Oh yeah.........................if she weren't so snooty,she might be kinda sweet |
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November 22, 2012, 01:33:47 PM |
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That and the fact BFL probably already cashed out to USD. They don't need to cash out. They haven't even seen a Bitcoin. They are being paid in cold hard fiat US Dollars via BitPay. |
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AndrewBUD
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November 22, 2012, 01:53:09 PM |
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I doubt they'll even do a refund...
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November 22, 2012, 03:21:40 PM |
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If theymos could, create a BFL section strictly for BFL, please! bfl this and bfl that, everywhere here :p .
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salfter
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November 22, 2012, 03:58:12 PM |
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I doubt they'll even do a refund...
My understanding is that a few already have gotten refunds. So much for that bit of speculation. |
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AndrewBUD
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November 22, 2012, 03:59:24 PM |
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Within the last couple days?
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November 22, 2012, 05:35:16 PM |
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Within the last couple days?
If they did not refund at any request, it would be mentioned here immediately in 6 topics at least, wouldn't it? |
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November 22, 2012, 05:51:41 PM |
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Within the last couple days?
If they did not refund at any request, it would be mentioned here immediately in 6 topics at least, wouldn't it? While looking at one of the 80 BFL threads I swear I saw a quote by BFL mentioning that purchases are non refundable on ASIC products.. either way. I don't care.. |
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November 22, 2012, 07:52:41 PM |
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I agree with having an ASICs or BFL forum for these posts.
I also agree with the notion that it would spread pretty damn fast if they didn't issue a refund. People would start pulling out and issue charge backs and all of that. I know I would.
That being said I think people should relax. Honestly. Of course this company gave a date that was far more exciting than the final shipping date... That always happens, even with much larger, much more trusted companies. If you really don't want to wait then cancel your order and let us know how that goes.
This is a project technology guys. It's custom made. This is not them slapping together some GPU/FPGA parts and selling them as a package. It's an entire project. The only thing I would begrudge them for is not giving a more realistic shipping or completion date. But I hold that against so many companies, especially gaming companies.
Just... relax... If you didn't have the money to waste then you shouldn't have paid for some new fangled technology that only has one single purpose and had a release date months down the line...
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November 22, 2012, 10:30:41 PM |
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I doubt they'll even do a refund...
If you ask for one,they will give it you.Several folks have asked & recieved them on the BFL forums recently. |
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November 22, 2012, 11:24:38 PM |
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This is a project technology guys. It's custom made. This is not them slapping together some GPU/FPGA parts and selling them as a package. It's an entire project. The only thing I would begrudge them for is not giving a more realistic shipping or completion date.
Even with FPGA units they had horrible shipping delays, still do for all I know, so it is not like people should have expected anything different with ASICs it seems to be SOP with this company. |
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November 22, 2012, 11:30:33 PM |
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Pretty sure they're doing refunds despite the shady notification that pre-order funds are non-refundable. I've also seen posts from BFL reps suggesting a conditional refund policy. Something like, "we'll honor refunds if we don't ship by 1/31/2013" or some such.
All that said, I think they've been completely dishonest about this entire thing. They NEVER should have opened their pre-orders so early in the year, and they definitely never should have promised a date they couldn't deliver. People committed funds months ago based on those promises, and they have a right to expect those promises to be honored. The typical BFLites will dismissively say "well anyone that accepted their release date doesn't know BFL", but that doesn't wash.
Yes BFL deserves a scammer tag. Repeatedly lying when money has changed hands is scamming, period. Even if they do eventually ship, BFL customers will have been cheated of their money from the time they ordered to the time they receive products, during which time the products they bought will have dropped in value substantially due to greatly increased competition.
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November 23, 2012, 02:13:29 AM |
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Every single person that has actually asked for a refund has received it.
And for the millionth time, the "end of January delivery" quote is if you ordered now. Way to copy and paste only what you felt like instead of the actual quote and context. Get a job in politics.
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