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November 23, 2012, 07:25:50 PM
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Why is there a nameless fish with 0 visible?  I thought they had to be .1 BTC to be visible.
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November 23, 2012, 07:47:20 PM
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Why is there a nameless fish with 0 visible?  I thought they had to be .1 BTC to be visible.
Fish with "0" is the very 1st fish which is used to join the game when there are no other fish visible.

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November 23, 2012, 08:42:17 PM
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There's currently a 6 BTC a 3 BTC and a bunch of little fish.
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November 23, 2012, 09:15:00 PM
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The rules should show somewhere before you join.

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November 23, 2012, 09:20:46 PM
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pretty cool IMO.

totally about to make a Micon fish + a sealswithclubs fish... maybe Freemoney beat me to it  Smiley

So IMO lets say I had a really big fish, like 55 btc or something 10x what the "big" fishes were

- so like, everyone is going to take a shot and bite me - what are my exact chances for survival?  is it supposed to be +EV for smaller fish to bite larger?  so having the largest fish is -EV and just to fly your flag? (I sort of love that model)

- or is it really balanced?  if i drop a headshot of BTC on my fish is it fairly impossible to bite, unless a guy comes along and lets just say makes his fish 45 vs. my 55 and takes a few bites, will he likely 1/2 me after a few shots?  or after his 1st shot I take 1/2 and his next shot is only 1/2 as powerful?

I NEED MORE INFO / really cool / got me thinking for sure. 

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November 23, 2012, 09:36:34 PM
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The instructions, such as they are, say the odds of winning are proportional to the size of the fish.  So the tiny .1 fish attacking the 50 BTC fish has a very small chance of winning.  However, when the tiny fish wins, he wins 25 BTC, and when he loses, he loses .05.

1% goes to the house and it looks like 10% to someone else's fish if you click on that, so I'd click on the 0 fish to start.
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November 23, 2012, 09:47:48 PM
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pretty cool IMO.

totally about to make a Micon fish + a sealswithclubs fish... maybe Freemoney beat me to it  Smiley

So IMO lets say I had a really big fish, like 55 btc or something 10x what the "big" fishes were

- so like, everyone is going to take a shot and bite me - what are my exact chances for survival?  is it supposed to be +EV for smaller fish to bite larger?  so having the largest fish is -EV and just to fly your flag? (I sort of love that model)

- or is it really balanced?  if i drop a headshot of BTC on my fish is it fairly impossible to bite, unless a guy comes along and lets just say makes his fish 45 vs. my 55 and takes a few bites, will he likely 1/2 me after a few shots?  or after his 1st shot I take 1/2 and his next shot is only 1/2 as powerful?

I NEED MORE INFO / really cool / got me thinking for sure. 

The same math as playing other gambling games should be applied. If u compare TBF to SatoshiDICE, u can notice that it's the same game. The only difference is that SatoshiDICE uses its own money to pay winnings and TBF uses money of other fish... er, players.

Btw, 10 BTC vs 20 BTC gives only 33% chance to win, not 50%, so gameplay looks perfectly balanced - more ur risk, higher ur reward.
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November 23, 2012, 10:06:34 PM
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Someone has just tried to win against 3 BTC fish. Attacked it with 30 small fish 0.1 BTC each. Now 3 BTC became 4.5 BTC.
It seems to me that a lot of attempts with small fish give less chances to win than one attempt with all powers.
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November 23, 2012, 10:31:02 PM
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Someone has just tried to win against 3 BTC fish. Attacked it with 30 small fish 0.1 BTC each. Now 3 BTC became 4.5 BTC.
It seems to me that a lot of attempts with small fish give less chances to win than one attempt with all powers.

vs the 4.5 fish is a 4.4 fish the best shot?

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November 23, 2012, 10:37:44 PM
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Someone has just tried to win against 3 BTC fish. Attacked it with 30 small fish 0.1 BTC each. Now 3 BTC became 4.5 BTC.
It seems to me that a lot of attempts with small fish give less chances to win than one attempt with all powers.

vs the 4.5 fish is a 4.4 fish the best shot?

If u need the highest chance than 4.5 is the best. Adjusting weight of ur fish u adjust winnings VS risk ratio. But don't split ur attack on 2-3-4 stages, coz ur victim will grow between attempts and winnings VS ratio will become worse.
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November 23, 2012, 11:14:10 PM
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Someone has just tried to win against 3 BTC fish. Attacked it with 30 small fish 0.1 BTC each. Now 3 BTC became 4.5 BTC.
It seems to me that a lot of attempts with small fish give less chances to win than one attempt with all powers.

vs the 4.5 fish is a 4.4 fish the best shot?

If u need the highest chance than 4.5 is the best. Adjusting weight of ur fish u adjust winnings VS risk ratio. But don't split ur attack on 2-3-4 stages, coz ur victim will grow between attempts and winnings VS ratio will become worse.

ok i shipped .1 coin to my fish:  1N4mSQSX8cgQshjYnVoSy7NjaTr8szFr8L

then lost a bite, then shipped .11 more and now.... nothing...

+ I made a "MiconFISH" / sent coins to it but accidentally closed the browser - gone forever?

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November 23, 2012, 11:17:07 PM
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+ I made a "MiconFISH" / sent coins to it but accidentally closed the browser - gone forever?

Not forever. PM me with ur withdrawal address and transaction ids.
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November 24, 2012, 01:33:00 AM
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We need a history of battles, sometimes I don't know if the transaction fail or I died when I'm not seeing

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November 24, 2012, 06:44:52 AM
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We need a history of battles, sometimes I don't know if the transaction fail or I died when I'm not seeing


It's in development. Will be added tomorrow.
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November 24, 2012, 07:27:57 AM
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We need a history of battles, sometimes I don't know if the transaction fail or I died when I'm not seeing


It's in development. Will be added tomorrow.

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November 24, 2012, 02:41:35 PM
Last edit: November 24, 2012, 03:40:18 PM by Otoh
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Yep, history would be really cool, if possible can it be backdated somewhat too as I went to sleep about 10 hours ago & after playing & partying forgot what balance I left on my 2 fish, I thought I withdrew them down to 0.1 each but that seems unlikely as amazingly they were both alive this morning with balances of 8.143 btc & 2.155 btc, they actually made more money for me when I was asleep than I made for myself yesterday when awake - beginners luck maybe, perhaps someone kept attacking but lost many bites in a row & kept putting in 50% more each time or something or maybe I left higher balances up on them like 6 btc & 1 btc - would be great to see this last 12 hours history or if anyone could let me know, many thanks, cool game!

Edit: A few fishes had allied me so that may have helped, I'm sure it did so many thanks to those - especially if they were doing lots of bitings.
Edit 2: Just found a note which says 1.5 btc & 0.5 btc left, so could well be that those were the balances that I had left them on last night.

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November 24, 2012, 05:46:02 PM
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1)  Love OP / has been helping ppl using the fish-system with attentive PM's.  Kuddos / damn fine operation so far

2) I am mutli-tabling fish game in 2 browsers.  

3)  just ran SealsWithClubsFISHY up to .3 btc / 2x successful bites / huge fucking day IMO


really love this unique / cool btc gaming site.  I hope OP scoops up a domain + somehow can make this my screen saver, and the option when both are only to play a game of rock paper scissors to decide the bite...

I'm just spit-balling here, but this is cool.

edit:  totally addicted, 4-tabling fishes...

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November 24, 2012, 09:42:51 PM
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We need a history of battles, sometimes I don't know if the transaction fail or I died when I'm not seeing


It's in development. Will be added tomorrow.

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November 24, 2012, 10:25:23 PM
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I just typed in a bunch of nonsense and it said I joined the game. Perhaps use some kind of input validation for bitcoin addressses.
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November 24, 2012, 10:35:27 PM
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I just typed in a bunch of nonsense and it said I joined the game. Perhaps use some kind of input validation for bitcoin addressses.

Aye, after we add all planned content we polish the game.
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