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November 30, 2012, 02:28:01 AM
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So, since you obviously know what you're talking about (can you sense the sarcasm?), could you point out where BFL has used "fully custom?"
On the front page of your website.
$ curl http://www.butterflylabs.com | grep -i 'fully custom'
Our Super Computer platform is a 3rd generation to all our products using a fully custom ASIC processor design. Devices based on this technology are currently scheduled for December delivery. See our <a title="Products" href="http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/">products </a>page if you would like to get on the pre-order list.
It's also in the google preview in bold in the screenshot above. I don't care if you switch your avatar or not, we've already demonstrated you don't know what you're talking about, so what the hell!
Dude, take a deep breath. Your Ignore tag is at #F2F2D8. |
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November 30, 2012, 03:12:23 AM |
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"Full-Custom" can mean F**** all.. anyway.
Since you can take an existing FPGA design and convert it to an ASIC, you have what can be called Full-custom....(in so far as it's your design and its fully custom)
But that does not mean the design is ANY good compared to off the shelf IP.
Because off the shelf IP is usually developed SPECIFICALLY for a particular ASIC and as such utilizes the BEST possible options for that ASIC, also IP is usually designed by some of the best designers available, whereas many FPGA designs are poorly implemented at best.....
A simple example:
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My_Process: PROCESS (clk)
BEGIN
IF RISING_EDGE(clk) THEN
....
g <= b*c*d
f <=c*d*e
END IF;
END PROCESS;
Wow it uses absolutely the least amount of terms (it must be fast!!):
Minimum period: 6.431ns (Maximum Frequency: 155.506MHz)
Example 2
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My_Process: PROCESS (clk)
BEGIN
IF RISING_EDGE(clk) THEN
.....
tmp_b <=b
tmp_e <=e
temp_cd=c*d
g=b*temp_cd
f=temp_cd*e
END IF;
END PROCESS;
Minimum period: 3.901ns (Maximum Frequency: 256.354MHz)
1.WTF!!!
(Thats what experience brings to the table)
MORE terms MORE logic MORE routing and yet it is faster!!! and that is what good IP can bring to the table... well for V1 anyway
2. Writing for hardware IS NOT the same as programming software.
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November 30, 2012, 04:04:00 AM |
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So, since you obviously know what you're talking about (can you sense the sarcasm?), could you point out where BFL has used "fully custom?"
On the front page of your website.
$ curl http://www.butterflylabs.com | grep -i 'fully custom'
Our Super Computer platform is a 3rd generation to all our products using a fully custom ASIC processor design. Devices based on this technology are currently scheduled for December delivery. See our <a title="Products" href="http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/">products </a>page if you would like to get on the pre-order list.
Wow, you caught a typo and have been playing off of that for months, congratulations! I like how you just skate over the fact that you quoted a Google link, pointing to a thread where someone else uses the term "fully custom" and on the very same page you are correcting them. Then you glaze over the fact that the announcement by BFL uses the term correct. THEN you also gloss over the fact that you swore up and down that there was no possible way BFL was using a full custom design... yet here we are. Dude, face it, you're full of shit. You know it, I know it... everyone else knows it. We'll just keep this thread warm fro the next time you try to "educate" someone with your special brand of BS, so we can demonstrate, once again, you don't know what you're talking about half the time. Dude, take a deep breath. Your Ignore tag is at #F2F2D8. Well she-it! I better stop railing against idiots then... ooops, too late. |
If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it. There was never anything there in the first place.
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Crypt_Current
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November 30, 2012, 04:22:57 AM |
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So, since you obviously know what you're talking about (can you sense the sarcasm?), could you point out where BFL has used "fully custom?"
On the front page of your website.
$ curl http://www.butterflylabs.com | grep -i 'fully custom'
Our Super Computer platform is a 3rd generation to all our products using a fully custom ASIC processor design. Devices based on this technology are currently scheduled for December delivery. See our <a title="Products" href="http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/">products </a>page if you would like to get on the pre-order list.
It's also in the google preview in bold in the screenshot above. I don't care if you switch your avatar or not, we've already demonstrated you don't know what you're talking about, so what the hell!
Dude, take a deep breath. Your Ignore tag is at #F2F2D8. OMG... SUCH a juicy retort... dammit to hell... I have two Jales on preorder annnndddd... Blerrrggghhheerarhahahaha ... ...... |
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November 30, 2012, 04:30:37 AM |
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So, since you obviously know what you're talking about (can you sense the sarcasm?), could you point out where BFL has used "fully custom?"
On the front page of your website.
$ curl http://www.butterflylabs.com | grep -i 'fully custom'
Our Super Computer platform is a 3rd generation to all our products using a fully custom ASIC processor design. Devices based on this technology are currently scheduled for December delivery. See our <a title="Products" href="http://www.butterflylabs.com/products/">products </a>page if you would like to get on the pre-order list.
Wow, you caught a typo and have been playing off of that for months, congratulations! I like how you just skate over the fact that you quoted a Google link, pointing to a thread where someone else uses the term "fully custom" and on the very same page you are correcting them. Then you glaze over the fact that the announcement by BFL uses the term correct. THEN you also gloss over the fact that you swore up and down that there was no possible way BFL was using a full custom design... yet here we are. Dude, face it, you're full of shit. You know it, I know it... everyone else knows it. We'll just keep this thread warm fro the next time you try to "educate" someone with your special brand of BS, so we can demonstrate, once again, you don't know what you're talking about half the time. Dude, take a deep breath. Your Ignore tag is at #F2F2D8. Well she-it! I better stop railing against idiots then... ooops, too late. DUDE: Josh, Inaba, whatever the fuck your supplier / demanders dub you: AM I going to get some actual, usable ASIC devices? My order# is 8814. Please give me some sort of random, shoot-from-the-hip ballpark half-assed estimate of a ship date for my two (2) Jalepeno ASIC devices. I paid some ~20 BTC for this preorder. (I don't remember the exact amount offhand). PLEASE convice me not to request a refund. These threads are starting to scare me, bro. I'm just trying to play it smart and being honest and am humbly requesting the simplest, most honest truth (even if in the form of personal opinion) regarding these trollatious, FUDalicious allegacusatariums. I drink Steel Reserve, for crissakes. Help a brotha out. |
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November 30, 2012, 04:35:48 AM |
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I would estimate around the middle or end of January for that order number... but I'm pullin' an Elden here and just guessing without any data to back that up.
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If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it. There was never anything there in the first place.
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November 30, 2012, 04:40:24 AM |
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I would estimate around the middle or end of January for that order number... but I'm pullin' an Elden here and just guessing without any data to back that up.
you never have any data to start with anyways. |
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Crypt_Current
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November 30, 2012, 04:43:36 AM |
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I would estimate around the middle or end of January for that order number... but I'm pullin' an Elden here and just guessing without any data to back that up.
You may have judged by my avatar pic, that that wild sort of guesstimate will be adequate to satisfy me for any number of days whose names end in the letter "y". I mean seriously you fucking trolls, coming from someone who is the MOST PARANOID PERSON YOU MIGHT EVER MEET, AND ANNOYINGLY SO -- dude above here ^ [Edit: I mean Inaba] has got to be less than willingly losing PRECIOUS SLEEP over even being aware of this forum. There must have been bleeding-edge tech companies in existench in 1986 or 1992 or so ... ok so imagine that OK: There were no fucking message boards like this for your INSTANT EGO-GRATIFICATION... And some of those companies MADE IT... Microsoft. Idiots! Give me my god damned ASICS or I will come to KC with a fucking shotgun you fools but THEY KNOW THIS! That's hyperbole lol worst case scenario i get a refund. ... But don't trust me; I'm a drug-addicted WEIRDO. Also, come find me -- I get off on that. Asshole wastes of life with nothing better to do! http://youtu.be/yqcbu2ozc50"Worms keep everything... EVERYTHING... Down." |
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November 30, 2012, 04:51:58 AM |
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I bet you are simultaneously terrifying and total F'ing awesome to hang out with.  |
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Crypt_Current
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November 30, 2012, 04:54:25 AM |
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I bet you are simultaneously terrifying and total F'ing awesome to hang out with. To inaccurately paraphrase Meatloaf: One out of two ain't bad. Fly me out! I promise great times! Or I can ride a greyhound. I'll go cheap dude. I'm in STL. |
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November 30, 2012, 05:03:10 AM |
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@ Crypt_Current, if you overdose can I get your BFL hardware, if BFL doesn't cancel your order?
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Crypt_Current
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November 30, 2012, 05:09:11 AM |
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@ Crypt_Current, if you overdose can I get your BFL hardware, if BFL doesn't cancel your order?
lol, no -- I have a full will written up. |
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November 30, 2012, 08:30:59 AM |
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There must have been bleeding-edge tech companies in existench in 1986 or 1992 or so ... ok so imagine that OK: There were no fucking message boards like this for your INSTANT EGO-GRATIFICATION...
Idiots!
Yes, yes, graybeard - the Internet is the work of the devil. Everything was better in the old days ... |
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Crypt_Current
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November 30, 2012, 02:12:29 PM
Last edit: November 30, 2012, 02:22:43 PM by Crypt_Current |
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There must have been bleeding-edge tech companies in existench in 1986 or 1992 or so ... ok so imagine that OK: There were no fucking message boards like this for your INSTANT EGO-GRATIFICATION...
Idiots!
Yes, yes, graybeard - the Internet is the work of the devil. Everything was better in the old days ... That is not at all what I meant; you miss the point. My point is that companies probably face much more aggressive onslaught from trolls nowadays because communications technology has advanced to the point of specific, detailed messages having the ability to be delivered instantly. and HEY! Just because I happen to have a couple gray hairs in my beard now && I do sometimes feel "old", it does not mean I am some fuddy-duddy. I'll be 33 in February. I fucking love the Interwebs man; it's my life. Food, water, shelter, and wifi, those are the necessities. I just also dislike ignorance and rampant unexcused boredom, and where those two things meet up generally make for an individual who is extremely annoying to me. And just for the record, FUCK the old days. Only thing I missed about 'em was the thrash metal, and bands like Warbringer, Havok and Vektor are doing a fantastic job of keeping thrash alive and solidifying it as a bona fide style of rock. I look ahead -- sometimes much too far ahead. i.e. circa 2600 AD when quantum computing becomes reality and we get upgraded to triple-helix DNA...  |
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November 30, 2012, 06:05:22 PM |
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Yes, I know, I just corrected it, since it was a typo no one ever mentioned before. In all other communication, we use "full custom" and that one spot had an extra "y" erroneously appended, which is what Elden has been banking on for months, since he doesn't have anything legitimate to add. |
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This is not OK.
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November 30, 2012, 07:11:17 PM |
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This whole thread is about a typo? Holy fuck.  |
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November 30, 2012, 07:27:58 PM |
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No, the thread has been derailed by discussion about a typo. The thread is about BFL's explanation of one of their issues with their ASIC products.
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November 30, 2012, 07:51:27 PM |
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You should take Elden's words with a grain of salt. He's pretty smart, but has a history of just talking out his ass, as evidenced by the fact that he just makes stuff up as he goes along:
This, coming from someone who has the same exact history, in fact his employer has that history too.. Fucking talking out ur asses! |
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