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February 18, 2016, 06:11:32 AM
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ITS JUST A THEORY?

Because when you stress plants out they turn hermaphrodite fact don't stress the plant out and it grows normal FACT
So could it happen to humans?

also there was a theory that being gay could be caused by stress at birth..
there was a documentary bbc1 years ago about the theory..

Plants and Animals diverged a long long long long time ago.

How some plants respond to stimuli is not indicative of how some animals will respond to the same stimuli.
NO NO NO THIS AS BEEN MY ARGUMENT ALL ALONG. your so wrong..
also the GREEKS look how they handle money Cheesy Cheesy
When i go the beach i look at the lines in the sand and the plant life the human life i don't just splash in the sea.. I STUDY..WHY IS A ROCK A ROCK WHY IS THAT PLANT OVER THERE AND THAT ONES NOT..

WE HUMAN THINK WERE SOMETHING SPECIAL..
You are no different than a plant a frog a cow a dog? STUDY
look how plants behave look at animals how they behave germs all life is similar the way it acts.
just your lucky your a human but the process is the same for a human as a plant?
Eat and reproduce? I tell you a story..

One day i blew a dandelion and i was thinking WOW reminds me when we ejaculate..you blow the flower and the seeds spread every where to make new life ..just like when we ejaculate our semen ?

I also look at animals and they act no different than a human ..
So for you to say humans out grow other species actions is far from the truth?






Where am I wrong?  I never were said humans (or any other apes) are special in any way.  We are mammals like any other.  More complicated, able to think in abstract
terms, use tools, but we are essentially smarter chimpanzees. Almost identical DNA, same internal organs, equipped with a pump to circulate blood etc.

I said that we are way more complicated than plants and can better handle stress.  And I gave you examples of where your argument (of interpolation) fails.

I'd expect plants response to stress to be more visible, pronounced and more permanent that a stress response in humans.


 

HUMANS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN A PLANT
HUMANS ARE NOTHING SPECIAL ITS JUST YOU SEEM TO THINK WE ARE..

So your saying animals don't get stressed your saying plants don't get stressed ?

The trouble with you .your trying to prove me wrong when i know Iam right.. lets look at the facts yes
please gay people admit this.. as your life ever been stressful

bullied
molested
bad birth I.E mum struggled while carrying or  problem at birth smoking in the womb drinking in the womb
mum dad arguing a lot
no parents
in jail no women around sexual frustration ..I.E STRESS
in the army no women around sexual frustration ..I.E STRESS
sailor. no women around sexual frustration ..I.E STRESS
raped
no father figure
mum dad always shouting at you when child
dad always picking on your mum growing up watching it

now 90% of gays will say that 1 of those problems has happened to them to turn them gay?
many problems can happen in the womb

so how much stress? all related to stress?
SO NOW WE KNOW ITS NOT A GENE ITS STRESS AND YES IT CAN HAPPEN TO YOUR CHILD
FROM THE WOMB TILL YOU DIE..

So in theory anyone can turn gay at any point in life?
Always remember people cope with stress better than others? but just could it be stress that makes you gay?

Looks to me like are using Arab backward logic and have no real education in classic Greek scientific thinkning which has built the modern world.

Perhaps you should start with understanding some basics such as;
1. statistical correlation,
2. cause and effect,
3. genetic influences versus environmental stressors,
4. human psychology.
SO BECAUSE THE GREEKS WHERE MOSTLY GAY WE ARE?

Let me guess, your real name is Dill Doh?
AND YOUR NAME IS BIG MAMBA

Never really read what you had to say because your so boring..
NOW GO AND LICK YOUR MUMS SMELLY PISS FLAPS YOU INBRED LITTLE GOAT FUCKER
AND WHILES YOUR THERE GIVE YOUR DAD IF YOU KNOW WHO HE HIS A SLAP FOR BRINGING A LITTLE
PISS STREAK LIKE YOU INTO THIS WORLD

YOU BORING LITTLE TWAT WHO CARE ABOUT YOU NO ONE ..
SO GO AND TELL YOUR MUM BECAUSE WHO CARES YOU GOAT SHAGGING PISS FLAP SUCKING PIG

FUCK YOU AND DIE OF CANCER TWAT Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

ARRRRR I ENJOYED THAT     I LET IT RIP MAN   YEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAA

SAY WHAT YOU WANT BECAUSE WHO GIVES A SHIT DICK BRAIN CUNT Cheesy
BYE AND FUCK YOU FUCKERS POSTING BORING SHIT Grin

TO ALL YOU GAY HATERS 
GO AND DIE YOU RELIGIOUS MOTHER FUCKERS
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February 18, 2016, 06:44:54 AM
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Or hating two (or more lesbians) fisting themselves.  You might not find it attractive to look at, but hating them? What for?

Nobody hates lesbians, that's a myth...

Even God only hates when gay men have sex, he never says anything bad about lesbians in the bible...
Quote from: Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them

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February 18, 2016, 07:08:12 AM
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Don't agree with this at all.
Maybe some people who are molested could become homosexual but some who are molested ARE NOT homosexual.
Just a dumb claim.




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February 18, 2016, 09:07:35 AM
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If people say they were molested and that's why they become gay then I am afraid I don't agree and its just an excuse. They must need proper counseling and psychological treatments will make them back to natural and productive life.
You are right. People have weird and strange fetishes in today's societies and this is just an abnormal fetish in my opinion too. Morally its wrong, its against every religion.
But everyone has a right to live their life whether others accept it or not and to blame this on sociological conditions or as issues is wrong and unacceptable in my opinion. It does not mean that I support for same gender sex.
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February 18, 2016, 10:17:02 AM
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You're the one talking about religion.

But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it.

BIM THANK YOU!!!

So as Homosexuality occurs naturally among humans you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it right? Grin


But people also naturally find homosexuality disgusting.  Now what?

Well I naturally find religion so disgusting I wanna burn religious people alive.
Now what?
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You're the one talking about religion.

But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it.

BIM THANK YOU!!!

So as Homosexuality occurs naturally among humans you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it right? Grin


But people also naturally find homosexuality disgusting.  Now what?

Well I naturally find religion so disgusting I wanna burn religious people alive.
Now what?




Good!  You're almost realizing how pointless it is to say "It's natural" as an excuse for some pet behavior while excluding other behaviors from the same logic.



Notice how I only talk about facts, logic, and science, but you respond emotionally and bring up religion instead of science.

Your personal religious beliefs don't change the facts.

 Your response doesn't follow logically, so it comes across as dogmatic programming. 

When anyone disagrees with your beliefs, for any reason, you have been brainwashed to reflexively spit out a canned answer.
 
Try thinking for yourself instead of just repeating what someone else has taught you.  You're being controlled.


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February 18, 2016, 11:58:12 AM
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You're the one talking about religion.

But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it.

BIM THANK YOU!!!

So as Homosexuality occurs naturally among humans you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it right? Grin


But people also naturally find homosexuality disgusting.  Now what?

Well I naturally find religion so disgusting I wanna burn religious people alive.
Now what?




Good!  You're almost realizing how pointless it is to say "It's natural" as an excuse for some pet behavior while excluding other behaviors from the same logic.



Notice how I only talk about facts, logic, and science, but you respond emotionally and bring up religion instead of science.

Your personal religious beliefs don't change the facts.

 Your response doesn't follow logically, so it comes across as dogmatic programming. 

When anyone disagrees with your beliefs, for any reason, you have been brainwashed to reflexively spit out a canned answer.
 
Try thinking for yourself instead of just repeating what someone else has taught you.  You're being controlled.



So we can argue that your "But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it." is shit and we shouldn't take into account what you said no?

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February 18, 2016, 12:10:20 PM
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Or hating two (or more lesbians) fisting themselves.  You might not find it attractive to look at, but hating them? What for?

Nobody hates lesbians, that's a myth...

Even God only hates when gay men have sex, he never says anything bad about lesbians in the bible...
Quote from: Leviticus 20:13
If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them

Everyone loves woman on woman action... Atheist, Christian, man, woman, straight, gay, bisexual, white, black, even gods... everyone loves the lesbians!

even though the bible does not explain lesbians, I think it was still inappropriate, if not explain the bible's not meant to be allowed. Be smart please
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February 18, 2016, 12:23:04 PM
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You're the one talking about religion.

But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it.

BIM THANK YOU!!!

So as Homosexuality occurs naturally among humans you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it right? Grin


But people also naturally find homosexuality disgusting.  Now what?

Well I naturally find religion so disgusting I wanna burn religious people alive.
Now what?




Good!  You're almost realizing how pointless it is to say "It's natural" as an excuse for some pet behavior while excluding other behaviors from the same logic.



Notice how I only talk about facts, logic, and science, but you respond emotionally and bring up religion instead of science.

Your personal religious beliefs don't change the facts.

 Your response doesn't follow logically, so it comes across as dogmatic programming. 

When anyone disagrees with your beliefs, for any reason, you have been brainwashed to reflexively spit out a canned answer.
 
Try thinking for yourself instead of just repeating what someone else has taught you.  You're being controlled.



So we can argue that your "But since religion occurs naturally among humans, you shouldn't apply your moral judgements to it." is shit and we shouldn't take into account what you said no?



You're almost getting it.

Yes, you can argue that, but only if you argue the same against the person I was responding to.

Either all behavior is natural and therefore above moral reproach, or it's not.

Do you believe that sexual preferences are natural?  

Do you believe that homosexuals naturally find heterosexual sex disgusting?

Why do you believe that some people's sexual preferences are genetic, while other people's sexual preferences are evil religion?

Do you think you have some moral authority to condemn people's involuntary physiological reactions to sexual stimuli?

If a homosexual pornographic image gives one man an erection and makes another man vomit, why do you feel the need to call one man hateful?  

And if the image is heterosexual and makes the homosexual man vomit, why do you change your explanation from "hateful" to "natural"?




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February 18, 2016, 12:48:21 PM
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I disagree.
First time fell in love with a guy in primary school.


At that age, did you understand that you would never be able to build a family in a monogamous relationship with another boy?

Did you have any sense that everyone else's concepts of romantic love, dating, and marriage are all based on the biological facts of where babies come from?

Chivalry, romance, and monogamy exist because women are smaller and weaker than men, and because women get pregnant.

A father protects his daughter from men who would get her pregnant and then leave her.  She needs a man to protect her from other men, because men are generally larger and stronger than her.

Then the father gives that responsibility to her husband on her wedding day, as she publicly announces that she's going to let this one man get her pregnant. And it's specifically announced at the wedding that nobody else is allowed to have sex with the bride and groom, because of where babies come from.

The father has mixed emotions about giving up his duty and trusting his daughter's safety to someone else, but he looks forward to the joy of having grandchildren.

And that is the end goal of romantic love and dating.

A father usually would see no need to give his son's protection to another man, since his son can't get pregnant and should be able to defend himself.  Some same-sex couples do imitate this mating ceremony even though they can't actually mate, but it usually involves one person pretending to be the opposite gender so people can more easily pretend that it's similar to a normal wedding.

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February 18, 2016, 12:58:05 PM
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I disagree.
First time fell in love with a guy in primary school.


At that age, did you understand that you would never be able to build a family in a monogamous relationship with another boy?

Did you have any sense that everyone else's concepts of romantic love, dating, and marriage are all based on the biological facts of where babies come from?

Chivalry, romance, and monogamy exist because women are smaller and weaker than men, and because women get pregnant.

A father protects his daughter from men who would get her pregnant and then leave her.  She needs a man to protect her from other men, because men are generally larger and stronger than her.

Then the father gives that responsibility to her husband on her wedding day, as she publicly announces that she's going to let this one man get her pregnant. And it's specifically announced at the wedding that nobody else is allowed to have sex with the bride and groom, because of where babies come from.

The father has mixed emotions about giving up his duty and trusting his daughter's safety to someone else, but he looks forward to the joy of having grandchildren.

And that is the end goal of romantic love and dating.

A father usually would see no need to give his son's protection to another man, since his son can't get pregnant and should be able to defend himself.  Some same-sex couples do imitate this mating ceremony even though they can't actually mate, but it usually involves one person pretending to be the opposite gender so people can more easily pretend that it's similar to a normal wedding.


nonsense

Oh, it makes perfect sense. I understand why you wouldn't get it, or didn't want to get it but still.

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You're almost getting it.

Yes, you can argue that, but only if you argue the same against the person I was responding to.

Either all behavior is natural and therefore above moral reproach, or it's not.

Do you believe that sexual preferences are natural?  

Do you believe that homosexuals naturally find heterosexual sex disgusting?

Why do you believe that some people's sexual preferences are genetic, while other people's sexual preferences are evil religion?

Do you think you have some moral authority to condemn people's involuntary physiological reactions to sexual stimuli?

If a homosexual pornographic image gives one man an erection and makes another man vomit, why do you feel the need to call one man hateful?  

And if the image is heterosexual and makes the homosexual man vomit, why do you change your explanation from "hateful" to "natural"?





Oh but that's not the problem.
It can make you vomit. I wouldn't touch another man, I find it disgusting.

The problem is not what you think of it. The problem is if you want to forbid it. The problem is if you don't want to give the same rights to homosexuals and heterosexuals ^^
Other wise you can have whatever opinion you want!

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nonsense



Why do you think people get married and stay together for 50 years?

You say love is something on the level of a primary school child, but it takes more than that to keep families together.

Children need their parents.  Since all babies come from sexual reproduction between one man and one woman, we have marriage so those children will have their parents.  

A pregnant woman needs someone to provide for her, so she makes the man agree that he won't be off getting other women pregnant and providing for them instead.  A man doesn't want to work every day to provide for someone else's children instead of his own, so he makes the woman agree that she won't be getting pregnant by other men.

If you know where babies come from, you can see how marriage is all about children. Even if a woman can't get pregnant, she still needs her husband to provide for her instead of sleeping around and spending his money on other women.  

Because the government started paying women to raise children away from fathers - providing for women's needs with men's tax money - we have millions of boys who grew up with no male role model.  So they act like their moms, believing that life is all about attracting a different man every week for attention and self-esteem.

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They can have the same rights every normal human being has.
But not special rights because they are gay.
And not having special pronouns.
And certainly not getting married.

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You're almost getting it.

Yes, you can argue that, but only if you argue the same against the person I was responding to.

Either all behavior is natural and therefore above moral reproach, or it's not.

Do you believe that sexual preferences are natural?  

Do you believe that homosexuals naturally find heterosexual sex disgusting?

Why do you believe that some people's sexual preferences are genetic, while other people's sexual preferences are evil religion?

Do you think you have some moral authority to condemn people's involuntary physiological reactions to sexual stimuli?

If a homosexual pornographic image gives one man an erection and makes another man vomit, why do you feel the need to call one man hateful?  

And if the image is heterosexual and makes the homosexual man vomit, why do you change your explanation from "hateful" to "natural"?





Oh but that's not the problem.
It can make you vomit. I wouldn't touch another man, I find it disgusting.

The problem is not what you think of it. The problem is if you want to forbid it. The problem is if you don't want to give the same rights to homosexuals and heterosexuals ^^
Other wise you can have whatever opinion you want!



Can you?  People want to make your disgust illegal.

I've never stopped any same-sex couples from calling themselves married, but I've been stopped from saying my opinion on countless forums, subreddits, comment sections, and in real life.

I could be arrested in Scotland for what I've posted here.
I could be denied entry to Canada.

So if you're against forbidding things, it's a complex issue.

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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?

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February 18, 2016, 01:41:14 PM
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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?




It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage.  Nobody's safe.

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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?




It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage.  Nobody's safe.

So they can arrest you for saying your mind?
Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind?
I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong.

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Can you?  People want to make your disgust illegal.

I've never stopped any same-sex couples from calling themselves married, but I've been stopped from saying my opinion on countless forums, subreddits, comment sections, and in real life.

I could be arrested in Scotland for what I've posted here.
I could be denied entry to Canada.

So if you're against forbidding things, it's a complex issue.

I see your point and it's a good one.

You should have the right to say "I don't like homos".
But you shouldn't have the right to interfere in their life in any way.

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February 18, 2016, 01:53:45 PM
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Do Scotland and Canada love homosexuals so much?




It's about free speech.

If they can arrest you now for "hate speech" because you say something that's currently unpopular, then they could arrest you later for speaking in favor of gay marriage.  Nobody's safe.

So they can arrest you for saying your mind?
Not kicking in the heads of people, just saying your mind?
I'm not familiar with the laws there but that's just wrong.


In fact that's case in the whole world. Free speech is very American. In Europe you can get sued and get a fine for saying things like "homos are the plague of humanity".
Is it good? I don't know. It's the way things are. Free speech is not an important ideal in Europe.

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