Satoshidice you owe me (55.58+1.85)*12.50=$717.88 [RESOLVED]

[lightlord]

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

I might take 4 hours from now xD
I did get my 1.85 BTC just now.
So maybe they are coming in now.

But Not 72 hours xD

[🏰 TradeFortress 🏰]

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

I might take 4 hours from now xD
I did get my 1.85 BTC just now.
So maybe they are coming in now.

But Not 72 hours xD

1.85 bitcoins bet, 12 hours.
Do it?

[lightlord]

lightlord,

you will get your $717.88 in 72 hours.

I will even bet 18.572 bitcoins. If accept and get your $717, you send me 18.572 btc. If not, I give you my entire wallet in 72hrs.

The countdown starts when you accept.

I might take 4 hours from now xD
I did get my 1.85 BTC just now.
So maybe they are coming in now.

But Not 72 hours xD

1.85 bitcoins bet, 12 hours.
Do it?

2.71828183 BTC Bet 8 1/2 hours and we have a deal.
^^ E=2.718, And I like the number E xD
Any other thing you say other then a *I AcCePt*
that is capitalized 28 size, and a red color with bold,
will make my offer immediately invalid. And every
letter has to be exact match as above.

And this just applies to one thread below.
And only one time.

And stamped you have 10 mins
to make this post from 7:50pm-8:00pm Vancouver BC TIME and at (Month: 12) (Dec  Day: 1)/ (Year: 2012)
Post below will declare if you made it in the time section.

[lightlord]

Its just as silly as your 72 hour offer of 18 bitcoins 
Well times up! You had your chance 

[lightlord]

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

[Yuhfhrh]

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

[lightlord]

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?  

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

[Yuhfhrh]

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?  

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me.  

-- My conscience says I don't deserve them and it would be unfair to Stephen if I won them since he gave you the best answers.

[lightlord]

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?  

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me. 

I Could propose something interesting.
If your ticket hits, then your ticket goes on 50-50% chance satoshidice,
and if its a win, you both get 0.75 BTC!

That sounds better doesn't it? 

Just a thought

[Yuhfhrh]

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?  

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me. 

I Could propose something interesting.
If your ticket hits, then your ticket goes on 50-50% chance satoshidice,
and if its a win, you both get 0.75 BTC!

That sounds better doesn't it? 

Just a thought

Ah, but I would prefer not to gamble the 0.75BTC that I feel belongs to Stephen in the first place. Let him decide. 

[lightlord]

Well Once I get my bitcoins draw will commence.

Stephen Gornick has 66.67% chance of winning atm
Yuhfhrh has 33.33% chance of winning atm

I forfeit my ticket to Stephen, he deserves them.

You don't want money?  

Btw, the draw starts when I get my 55 Balance.
So others may join

Of course I want money, but I want Stephen to have it more than me. 

I Could propose something interesting.
If your ticket hits, then your ticket goes on 50-50% chance satoshidice,
and if its a win, you both get 0.75 BTC!

That sounds better doesn't it? 

Just a thought

Ah, but I would prefer not to gamble the 0.75BTC that I feel belongs to Stephen in the first place. Let him decide. 

damn was looking for the *wait wink doesn't exist :/
But there may be others entering before 55 BTC balance arrives 
Not so fast there *Here wink goes.* Someone else may claim 

[dooglus]

There are currently 1374 bets that have been confirmed which haven't had their payouts confirmed yet:

http://pastebin.ca/2262402 (it's too big to include in this post - I never hit the 64000 byte post size limit before)

It looks like SatoshiDice is being swamped by thousands of tiny bets which they're not able to deal with in a timely manner.

The blockage was probably initially caused by a double-spend attempt, which can have a large knock-on effect:  when you make a transaction using a double-spent bet as an input, all the outputs are doomed to never confirm.  Each of the transactions which you subsequently make using any of those outputs are also doomed to never confirm.  And so on.  Before you know it you have a huge tree of payouts which eventually just vanish because they depend on a double-spent bet.

Eventually some kind of a clean-up script will run at SatoshiDice and all the missing payouts will be redone.

It kind of sucks that you're having to wait, but you're not alone...

[dooglus]

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

Notice that it's easy to pay out on a losing bet.  All you need is the losing bet as the transaction input.  You send part of it back to the losing player and the rest to a satoshidice change address.  So it doesn't matter if the satoshidice wallet is full of inputs that will never confirm; that doesn't impact their ability to pay out losing bets.  It does hinder their ability to pay out winners however.

This imbalance means that if you only look at fully confirmed bet+payout pairs, you'll see mostly losing bets showing up.  This is reflected in the graph of their profits over time.  Notice that for the last day or two their profits have been pretty much straight up.  Also notice that they're about 20,000 BTC in the black.  That doesn't look like bankruptcy to me.

[lightlord]

That's weird I randomly got 1 Bitcoin from nowhere?
Even though I hadn't made a bet of 1 Bitcoin?
1Jg8sUeKpDpj38RfXLGdEMeC9ErjwyGVHo
This person sent me a bitcoin.
If anyone knows that address let me know.

Other then that I am happy with a free bitcoin 

[mem]

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

FFS, Would you just relax.

This is not the first time this happened.  Every transaction on SatoshiDICE that is a WIN eventually gets paid.    This is provable using the blockchain.

Your transaction confirmed.  It shows WIN.  You will get paid, just not right now apparently for whatever reason.
 - http://satoshidice.com/full.php?tx=a2dde18101ec3485fecb0d7b717371e1a61ff2ae2dff96002cf3683bde545b30

Incidentally, wagers that are double spends don't cost SatoshiDICE a thing, because even if they sent a payout for the WIN already the payout will not confirm either as it too will be a double spend.  And it is then no different from having never made a payout at all.

When these situations happen with SatoshiDICE, they can take a day or two to resolve.

There's nothing you can do but wait.

is this kind of thing resolved automatically with "blockchain magic" or does satoshidice have to manually correct these things ?
If the latter, it may explain the delays.

[dooglus]

is this kind of thing resolved automatically with "blockchain magic" or does satoshidice have to manually correct these things ?
If the latter, it may explain the delays.

Something in between I think.

After a few days Erik usually posts that the delay was caused by an error and that it has now been fixed and the problem won't happen again. 

[lightlord]

I just hope they didn't lost too much, to declare bankruptcy and forfeit everyone winning payments.
I notice they are doing all the little payments.

Notice that it's easy to pay out on a losing bet.  All you need is the losing bet as the transaction input.  You send part of it back to the losing player and the rest to a satoshidice change address.  So it doesn't matter if the satoshidice wallet is full of inputs that will never confirm; that doesn't impact their ability to pay out losing bets.  It does hinder their ability to pay out winners however.

This imbalance means that if you only look at fully confirmed bet+payout pairs, you'll see mostly losing bets showing up.  This is reflected in the graph of their profits over time.  Notice that for the last day or two their profits have been pretty much straight up.  Also notice that they're about 20,000 BTC in the black.  That doesn't look like bankruptcy to me.

Interesting, it seems that they are 20,000 positive.
Why don't they pay out everything immediately?

Or something wrong with there site?

Well Since you got graph + info, you also get a ticket.

[dooglus]

Interesting, it seems that they are 20,000 positive.
Why don't they pay out everything immediately?

Or something wrong with there site?

Well Since you got graph + info, you also get a ticket.

My theory is that their wallet is currently a jumble of uncomfirmable and regular coins.  To pay out big wins they use lots of smaller coins.  There's a big chance that at least one of the coins they use is unconfirmable which in turn makes the payout unconfirmable.

Until they resolve that mess the situation will perpetuate itself.

So they're able to automatically pay out losses, but not wins.  Which is why the graph is only going up at the moment.

[dooglus]

Well Since you got graph + info, you also get a ticket.

I update that graph every morning in this thread, in case you didn't see it before:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=80312.msg1372976#msg1372976

[Come-from-Beyond]

That's weird I randomly got 1 Bitcoin from nowhere?
Even though I hadn't made a bet of 1 Bitcoin?
1Jg8sUeKpDpj38RfXLGdEMeC9ErjwyGVHo
This person sent me a bitcoin.
If anyone knows that address let me know.

Other then that I am happy with a free bitcoin 

Sometimes I monitor bets of other players on SD site. And if I see that someone had had very little money and lost them due to failed Martingaling, I send them some coins so they could continue to play. Maybe someone does the same thing and sent 1 BTC to u.