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December 02, 2012, 07:09:48 AM |
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I've heard the term, "fuck you, got mine," a few times, pretty much exclusively used in a derogatory way. From what I understand, it is supposed to describe an individual who is of the opinion that as long as they have attained the item they strove to acquire, they don't care if someone else, who may really need the item as well, does not have it. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" Is it something like, "I didn't do shit, give me yours?" I'm trying to understand the meaning behind the derogatory connotation. Is it really just the disagreement between the "I worked my ass off for it, I deserve it" class, and the "We're all in this together and we should all share equally" class?
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December 02, 2012, 07:21:59 AM |
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So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" Is it something like, "I didn't do shit, give me yours?" I'm trying to understand the meaning behind the derogatory connotation. I actually had to look up "fuck you, got mine" on the UD. "Fuck You, I Got Mine".
People who rally against something that would help someone else because they wouldn't benefit from it.
See also: People who are against health insurance reform.
See also: People who were against credit card reform.
See also: People who were against the government allowing mortgage lenders to make changes to the loans of borrowers who were in danger of defaulting.
See also: People who clamor about supporting the troops and then complain when disabled vets get healthcare when they return from war.
See also: Teenagers at their first McJob who complain because taxes (at the lowest bracket) are taking a sliver of their paycheck away. All the eldery voters who constantly vote down the public school system because their children are adults have a giant FYIGM complex ...Yeah, looks like the opposite of FYIGM is indeed, "I don't do shit, give me yours," since pretty much everyone who is described as "Fuck you, I got mine," are people who are complaining about paying taxes, or downvoting tax increases, against forgiving debts, etc. Is it really just the disagreement between the "I worked my ass off for it, I deserve it" class, and the "We're all in this together and we should all share equally" class? The classic battle between the parasites and the productive, yes.
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December 02, 2012, 07:28:52 AM |
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I always understood it to mean not caring or sharing with a problem that ought to be solved for everybody ("ought" being a subjective term), but isn't a problem for the person it applies to.
"Fuck you, got mine" might describe somebody on a sinking ship who successfully boards a lifeboat and drives it away without letting others take the empty seats.
It doesn't necessarily mean the person is a parasite: it more often might refer to a productive person who feels that those who cannot produce are parasites and deserve nothing.
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December 02, 2012, 07:37:06 AM |
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See also: People who were against the government allowing mortgage lenders to make changes to the loans of borrowers who were in danger of defaulting.
Sorry to derail my own thread a bit, but... wait, what? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) The government has regulations that prevent mortgage lenders from changing loan terms? Or did whoever wrote that sentence meant to write, "People who were against the law that forced private banks to make changes to the loans of borrowers who were in danger of defaulting, at the expense of all other borrowers?"
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December 02, 2012, 12:00:21 PM |
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So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" "I am a caring, compassionate, and empathetic person, who cares about the betterment of society".
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December 02, 2012, 06:16:20 PM |
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"Fuck you, got mine" vs. "I have enough, here's some for you."
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December 02, 2012, 06:18:02 PM |
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So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" "I am a caring, compassionate, and empathetic person, who cares about the betterment of society". You have two kidneys. Give me one.
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December 02, 2012, 06:30:21 PM |
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So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" "I am a caring, compassionate, and empathetic person, who cares about the betterment of society". You have two kidneys. Give me one. People do give kidneys. I know a person who ran in an election for district supervisor and lost. She then donated a kidney. Do you need a kidney?
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December 02, 2012, 07:11:04 PM |
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So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" "I am a caring, compassionate, and empathetic person, who cares about the betterment of society". You have two kidneys. Give me one. People do give kidneys. I know a person who ran in an election for district supervisor and lost. She then donated a kidney. Do you need a kidney? I'm not talking about donations. I'm talking about taking, at gunpoint.
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December 02, 2012, 07:23:13 PM |
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So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" "I am a caring, compassionate, and empathetic person, who cares about the betterment of society". You have two kidneys. Give me one. People do give kidneys. I know a person who ran in an election for district supervisor and lost. She then donated a kidney. Do you need a kidney? I'm not talking about donations. I'm talking about taking, at gunpoint. Why are you talking about taking a kidney at gunpoint?
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December 02, 2012, 07:33:38 PM |
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He likes that kind of thing. Getting popcorn before the link between kidneys and taxes is fully established.
I'll get some Jolly Ranchers. Save my seat.
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December 02, 2012, 07:41:23 PM |
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Kidney theft at gunpoint is a FY,GM action yes. You won't find a high instance of that in a socialism though, nor in any first world nation. In places where cartels and gangs rule without oversight or human rights agencies though, it happens.
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December 02, 2012, 07:44:36 PM |
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So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" "I am a caring, compassionate, and empathetic person, who cares about the betterment of society". You have two kidneys. Give me one. People do give kidneys. I know a person who ran in an election for district supervisor and lost. She then donated a kidney. Do you need a kidney? I'm not talking about donations. I'm talking about taking, at gunpoint. Why are you talking about taking a kidney at gunpoint? Donations are voluntary. I wasn't discussing voluntary transactions. None of the examples in the UD definition are voluntary transactions.
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December 02, 2012, 08:22:15 PM |
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So, my question is, what is the opposite of "Fuck you, got mine?" "I am a caring, compassionate, and empathetic person, who cares about the betterment of society". You have two kidneys. Give me one. People do give kidneys. I know a person who ran in an election for district supervisor and lost. She then donated a kidney. Do you need a kidney? I'm not talking about donations. I'm talking about taking, at gunpoint. Why are you talking about taking a kidney at gunpoint? Donations are voluntary. I wasn't discussing voluntary transactions. None of the examples in the UD definition are voluntary transactions. In case you didn't notice, you're defending a belief system so despicable, it gets the label "Fuck you, got mine." Did you not notice the use of language, and what it implies? In case you didn't notice, the terminology used says one thing loud and clear: "You're a greedy selfish shit." If you were smart, you would have stayed out of this thread, because by defending it, you're also admitting to being what it implies.
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December 02, 2012, 08:33:01 PM |
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You say greedy and selfish like they are bad things. Self-interest is what keeps you alive.
If the UD examples had been things like 1 person casting off a 12-person lifeboat, that would be one thing. But they weren't. They were all examples of parasitic fucks wanting a piece of someone else's productivity.
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December 02, 2012, 08:37:49 PM |
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FY,GM definitely implies a person wasting assets that others need because... well... FY,GM.
Anyone have a link for that study in which people would rather get less and others get nothing than get more and others get something?
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December 02, 2012, 08:39:24 PM |
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You say greedy and selfish like they are bad things. Self-interest is what keeps you alive.
If the UD examples had been things like 1 person casting off a 12-person lifeboat, that would be one thing. But they weren't. They were all examples of parasitic fucks wanting a piece of someone else's productivity.
You didn't really comprehend the examples, did you?
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December 02, 2012, 08:41:49 PM |
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Did we get to taxes yet?
We're pretty much there. A kidney at gunpoint is his metaphor for tax collectors in blue suits with guns.
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December 02, 2012, 08:50:15 PM |
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Watch them, folks, as they fart into the wind, defending organized, systematic, theft.
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December 02, 2012, 08:51:08 PM |
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I'm sure he has hoarded enough assets to never ever need help from anyone and has the guns to make sure he can hold it.
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