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Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use. You are right! And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment. Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth. Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people. However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years. Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap. Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments.
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October 11, 2016, 01:24:45 AM |
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Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use. You are right! And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment. Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth. Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people. However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years. Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap. Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments. I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy.
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October 11, 2016, 05:24:15 AM |
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Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use. You are right! And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment. Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth. Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people. However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years. Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap. Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments. I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy. Yeah that is the reality that government is always going to rely with the fiat money for they are able to control it unlike with bitcoins. So regardless what would be the value of bitcoin, still fiat will be worth it and it can be worthless because of bitcoins. Unless the government would told it so.
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October 11, 2016, 05:33:40 AM |
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Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use. You are right! And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment. Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth. Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people. However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years. Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap. Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments. I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy. This is true, every potential currency or full adoption would really require the approval othe the government of a certain country and as you said theres no way for bitcoin to be legalized because of some features of it and government would see it as a threat for them but not all. it really depend on what country though. Even bitcoins price would rose up enormously , fiat would still remain after all and it cant be possibly replace by bitcoin anytime soon.
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October 11, 2016, 07:41:04 AM |
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Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use. You are right! And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment. Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth. Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people. However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years. Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap. Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments. I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy. This is true, every potential currency or full adoption would really require the approval othe the government of a certain country and as you said theres no way for bitcoin to be legalized because of some features of it and government would see it as a threat for them but not all. it really depend on what country though. Even bitcoins price would rose up enormously , fiat would still remain after all and it cant be possibly replace by bitcoin anytime soon. If the government will fail us, bitcoin will not become a mainstream currency, they will make their own that they can control as they hate the decentralization, they want to be in control of the operation so they can spy on our wallet and determine our net worth.
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October 11, 2016, 07:48:55 AM |
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Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use. You are right! And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment. Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth. Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people. However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years. Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap. Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments. I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy. Yeah that is the reality that government is always going to rely with the fiat money for they are able to control it unlike with bitcoins. So regardless what would be the value of bitcoin, still fiat will be worth it and it can be worthless because of bitcoins. Unless the government would told it so. Fiat is a basic necessity of majority of the people as their day to day transactions are depend on fiat and now they are used to it and it will be very for many to quit fiat and switch to bitcoins.
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October 11, 2016, 08:14:32 AM |
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Bitcoin is depending on fiat but fiat is not depend on bitcoin so fiat will not be worthless with any bitcoin price i guess.
I think they will though, because bitcoin price being that high means we have a lot of demand and people using bitcoin, why would people use both bitcoin and fiat? so I think then fiat will be worth a lot less cause most people would mainly be using bitcoin
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October 11, 2016, 12:01:32 PM |
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In one of the topics I read "If bitcoin will reach $10.000, fiat currency has become worthless" Do you agree with this statement?
Not at all. Even if BTC will be $100.000 fiat will have value. The reason why fiat, btc, eth, xmr, etc has any value is because us (users) are trusting it and using it. Why is valuable a $20 bill? There’s nothing inherently valuable about a $20 bill. The bill has a value because we’ve all decided it should. Money is about the exchanges and the transactions that we have with each other. Money it’s about a collective story that we tell each other about value.
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October 11, 2016, 01:50:26 PM |
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Fiat will never be worthless even if bitcoin price is $10,000 unless fiat is replaced by bitcoin. What I mean in replace is that the value of bitcoin will not depend on fiat anymore, it will have it's stand-alone value and will be used in daily lives, if that happens, fiat will be worthless but seeing it rise at that price, even if it is $100000 fiat will have worth unless no one will use it when that price is reached.
Even if bitcoin reaches to that price level, I don't think fiat will be worthless and people are who are not aware about btcoins will prefer to use fiat as its easy and convenient to use. You are right! And this will just show us how much potential for growth Bitcoin has and that it's value is very very tiny at the moment. Bitcoin will be used as safe haven and investment first by people who want to protect their wealth. Fiat will still be around and used by a majority of people. However the ones who know Bitcoin now and have a bit of skin in the game could possibly profit from it on a big scale in a few years. Can you imagine 1 satoshi = 1 dollar? Well, neither that the Bitcoin will have a good marketcap. Fiat money are controlated by governments, they will always have their place in economy, nothing can beat banks+governments. I certainly agree with your statement, everything requires the approval by the government and we cannot get easy approval that is why now bitcoin is till not legalize because it has no features that will comply with the government laws which is the KYC policy. Yeah that is the reality that government is always going to rely with the fiat money for they are able to control it unlike with bitcoins. So regardless what would be the value of bitcoin, still fiat will be worth it and it can be worthless because of bitcoins. Unless the government would told it so. Fiat is a basic necessity of majority of the people as their day to day transactions are depend on fiat and now they are used to it and it will be very for many to quit fiat and switch to bitcoins. I want to add , fiat is being used already for how many years and already been established strong foundation and reputation all over the globe which is a very hard thing to beat by bitcoin. Even bitcoins price would rise up on the future it would still no chance to replace fiat.
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October 11, 2016, 02:06:16 PM |
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If the price of the bitcoin rises up to that amount i dont think fiat will be worth less because when the bitcoin is rising the fiat will also rise and i think that the fiat will be atleast 100.000 by then when the price of hte bitcoin is that high.
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October 11, 2016, 02:13:07 PM |
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I don't think so, I think bitcoin can be well priced and fiat having it's usual value..
I don't think that fiat will have the same value when bitcoin is that high amount. For bitcoin to be that high it means a lot of people are buying into bitcoin which means all those people are probably not using fiat anymore making fiat less value.
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October 11, 2016, 02:41:59 PM |
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With this price, people surely did embraced the idea of Bitcoin. A cashless world. But not entirely, just starting to rise. The growth is always exponential and at 10,000$, the price surely is starting to curve up. It'll go higher in no time as to more and more people would be embracing the cashless world once they see the advantages and how powerful it actually is.
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October 11, 2016, 04:09:41 PM |
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Fiat money can't disappear and become worthless. All states and governments in the world rely on fiat, whole financial system is based on it, so it will always have it's value. But Bitcoin can be some sort of competition and alternative, the example how the finances could be done in a different manner.
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praprata
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October 20, 2016, 02:01:29 PM |
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In one of the topics I read "If bitcoin will reach $10.000, fiat currency has become worthless" Do you agree with this statement?
yes , because with this price everyone who are in bitcoin work or earning program , everyone will get the same profit or loss . if the bitcoin price will increase upto $10k then there will be absolutely fiat currency will worthless . It wont happen even how high on the price of bitcoin because the value itself would depend on fiat and there no way that it would be useless even bitcoin would soar high. Bitcoin wont be a competitor on fiat because fiat is so vast and well established and been used already on many centuries. Yes and fiat will always exist no matter how higher price bitcoin achieves in future as there are many people who will prefer to use only fiat and won't bother about bitcoins. I think prices will play an important role for the survival of bitcoin itself, it seems you should see a thread about "bitcoin does price matter?" you can see how high prices could increase the level of interest in bitcoin users to use, so the high prices will be necessary, If the bitcoin price keeps on rising, people's will be interested in it and it will be used quite a lot. but if the Bitcoin is going to keep rising then the price would be higher and more expensive and I do not think that people would then use there money to buy bitcoin. I think that people will be like bitcoin is to expensive and they will not make use of it.
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October 20, 2016, 02:44:19 PM |
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On the first hand Bitcoin will never reach that value and we have to be realistic and not dream because this is all wasted time if we talk about that it will reach the $10,000 so stop it also. And no Fiat will be not worthless if that is going to happen but first you must let it happen and than we all can talk futher, the price is not even rise in the halving now.
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October 20, 2016, 03:07:23 PM |
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On the first hand Bitcoin will never reach that value and we have to be realistic and not dream because this is all wasted time if we talk about that it will reach the $10,000 so stop it also. And no Fiat will be not worthless if that is going to happen but first you must let it happen and than we all can talk futher, the price is not even rise in the halving now.
Right 10,000$ in only in his dream because we know that the price of bitcoin can not reach that price. Fiat is can not be worthless because you can not use bitcoin directly to buy you want you need it first to convert it and use fiat to buy things.
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October 20, 2016, 03:44:04 PM |
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On the first hand Bitcoin will never reach that value and we have to be realistic and not dream because this is all wasted time if we talk about that it will reach the $10,000 so stop it also. And no Fiat will be not worthless if that is going to happen but first you must let it happen and than we all can talk futher, the price is not even rise in the halving now.
Right 10,000$ in only in his dream because we know that the price of bitcoin can not reach that price. Fiat is can not be worthless because you can not use bitcoin directly to buy you want you need it first to convert it and use fiat to buy things. Yeah fiat will always be in demand even if price of bitcoins goes that high as we need fiat to take care of our day to day transactions and that can be done only by exchanging bitcoins to fiat.
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October 20, 2016, 03:57:20 PM |
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To be honest, when it happens, there will be no FIAT money anymore. The government currency system will totally collapse and there will be a revolution of Cryptocurrency which is leaded by Bitcoin users. There will be no tax in the world and it will be much better when there is only one currency in the world: Bitcoin
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October 20, 2016, 04:07:36 PM |
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To be honest, when it happens, there will be no FIAT money anymore. The government currency system will totally collapse and there will be a revolution of Cryptocurrency which is leaded by Bitcoin users. There will be no tax in the world and it will be much better when there is only one currency in the world: Bitcoin
That will never happen fiat will always show its presence even in future and till the time Government will have their control on a country fiat will always exist as Government will never allow any digital currency to replace their national currency.
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October 20, 2016, 04:17:30 PM |
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To be honest, when it happens, there will be no FIAT money anymore. The government currency system will totally collapse and there will be a revolution of Cryptocurrency which is leaded by Bitcoin users. There will be no tax in the world and it will be much better when there is only one currency in the world: Bitcoin
That will never happen fiat will always show its presence even in future and till the time Government will have their control on a country fiat will always exist as Government will never allow any digital currency to replace their national currency. Yes, fiat will not be rendered worthless as long as we have governments that collect taxes and print money at the very least. No government would allow bitcoin to become a full-scale replacement to their national currencies. To that end, some of them take a somewhat short-sighted approach and go as far putting a lid on its use within their jurisdictions.
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