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Author Topic: Bitfury: "16nm... sales to public start shortly"  (Read 108473 times)
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January 19, 2016, 07:52:49 AM
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I took part in team for about 3 different mining boards designs.
A lot of experience with electronic projects etc.
The software is not the problem just a drivers for open source .
Of course the firmware and the pcb is the key work here.

Nice, just curious.  Care to elaborate a bit on the boards you have worked on, I am intrigued to say the least.

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January 19, 2016, 08:00:07 AM
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I am under NDA .
So just take my word for it.
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January 19, 2016, 08:44:11 PM
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I am under NDA .
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How much do you think a board would cost to run 20 chips per board?  Subtract the price of the BF chips so I am just talking about the board.

20 chips should run 2TH at .11w/gh so 220W per board.  How big would the board need to be? 10" X 10"?

Qty 500 boards.

I am just curious as to the cost of the board in qty. 
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January 19, 2016, 10:08:32 PM
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I am under NDA .
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How much do you think a board would cost to run 20 chips per board?  Subtract the price of the BF chips so I am just talking about the board.

20 chips should run 2TH at .11w/gh so 220W per board.  How big would the board need to be? 10" X 10"?

Qty 500 boards.

I am just curious as to the cost of the board in qty.  

The number of chips doesn't make sense I guess... Chip count times chip core voltage should fit the DC voltage of the power supply.
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January 19, 2016, 10:28:19 PM
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I am under NDA .
So just take my word for it.


How much do you think a board would cost to run 20 chips per board?  Subtract the price of the BF chips so I am just talking about the board.

20 chips should run 2TH at .11w/gh so 220W per board.  How big would the board need to be? 10" X 10"?

Qty 500 boards.

I am just curious as to the cost of the board in qty. 

I don't have a ballpark price on hand but that's not too far from what we're looking to build. A pair of my boards would do 2TH/220W in approximately 6"x9" of PCB and screw onto an S1 heatsink.

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January 19, 2016, 10:59:11 PM
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I am under NDA .
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How much do you think a board would cost to run 20 chips per board?  Subtract the price of the BF chips so I am just talking about the board.

20 chips should run 2TH at .11w/gh so 220W per board.  How big would the board need to be? 10" X 10"?

Qty 500 boards.

I am just curious as to the cost of the board in qty.  

The number of chips doesn't make sense I guess... Chip count times chip core voltage should fit the DC voltage of the power supply.
In fact this is not true
You can always use some single DC-DC on the input and arrange it according to chip count
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January 19, 2016, 11:04:40 PM
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I am under NDA .
So just take my word for it.


How much do you think a board would cost to run 20 chips per board?  Subtract the price of the BF chips so I am just talking about the board.

20 chips should run 2TH at .11w/gh so 220W per board.  How big would the board need to be? 10" X 10"?

Qty 500 boards.

I am just curious as to the cost of the board in qty. 

I don't have a ballpark price on hand but that's not too far from what we're looking to build. A pair of my boards would do 2TH/220W in approximately 6"x9" of PCB and screw onto an S1 heatsink.
What I am planing ( of course if ever) is 180x120 mm PCB for this kind of chip count with top(just in case) and bottom heat sink .
Any price range mentioned would be a big big speculation.
Just the bare PCB  can be calculated for now and there is probability  for change too.
For sure I would like to design a single USB stick type miner too
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January 20, 2016, 08:15:38 AM
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I am under NDA .
So just take my word for it.


How much do you think a board would cost to run 20 chips per board?  Subtract the price of the BF chips so I am just talking about the board.

20 chips should run 2TH at .11w/gh so 220W per board.  How big would the board need to be? 10" X 10"?

Qty 500 boards.

I am just curious as to the cost of the board in qty. 

I don't have a ballpark price on hand but that's not too far from what we're looking to build. A pair of my boards would do 2TH/220W in approximately 6"x9" of PCB and screw onto an S1 heatsink.
What I am planing ( of course if ever) is 180x120 mm PCB for this kind of chip count with top(just in case) and bottom heat sink .
Any price range mentioned would be a big big speculation.
Just the bare PCB  can be calculated for now and there is probability  for change too.
For sure I would like to design a single USB stick type miner too

I think you would need the top heat sink because of the FC package.
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January 20, 2016, 09:18:29 AM
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Yes, so I said top heat sink is in the plan
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January 20, 2016, 07:14:02 PM
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in the other thread it was April!

tomorrow it will be February!

Engineering chips are going to integrators already in February. So for a skilled and fast integrator I would say late march is possible. April is 100%.

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... And what is the hashrate with heatsink and what's draining the chip??  Grin

See for yourself: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPum2zqGPE

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January 20, 2016, 07:34:59 PM
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Decent scam attempt there sir, but it's pretty obviously not the real website.

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January 20, 2016, 07:37:25 PM
Last edit: January 20, 2016, 08:29:41 PM by ElGabo
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Looks like preorder has gone live for batch 1 chips.

I would love to get my hands on a few for a play around but 2 problems for me,

a) I dont do preorders.
b) Cant afford the minimum order quantity Sad


What a SCAM attempt. LOL

(Admin, please remove it.)

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January 20, 2016, 07:39:56 PM
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Even if it gets removed, the link exists in your quote. Please sterilize.

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January 20, 2016, 07:46:01 PM
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this product video seems legit, which matters much more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPum2zqGPE

11w, 104Gh/s, 0.107J/Gh
That link is not for bitfury.com it redirects you. That is the scam not that Bitfury is.
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January 20, 2016, 07:47:15 PM
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Video Part 2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPum2zqGPE

The summary of the hashrate with heatsink:
104 GH
107 mW per GH

Not bad at all  Cool

They are planning to start selling in March.
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January 20, 2016, 07:54:15 PM
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this product video seems legit, which matters much more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPum2zqGPE

11w, 104Gh/s, 0.107J/Gh
That link is not for bitfury.com it redirects you. That is the scam not that Bitfury is.

removed my post, but what are you talking about? ridirects where? I see a youtube video in youtube. It says bitfury, etc.
You are also saying that someone hacked that "punin" fella account here as well?
WTF?
Not the Youtube link, a previous post that linked to "Bitfury.com" the link was actually for b1tfury.xxxxxxxx with a display of "Bitfury.com"
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January 20, 2016, 08:00:23 PM
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this product video seems legit, which matters much more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPum2zqGPE

11w, 104Gh/s, 0.107J/Gh
That is not for bitfury.com it redirects you. That is the scam not that Bitfury is.

why you are referencing a legit youtube link with something completely unrelated?
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January 20, 2016, 08:20:04 PM
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Serious overkill on that heatsink for 11 watts.
Still, not too bad of performance.

I'm not worried about the GH / Chip stuff, Bitfury has always prefered the 'small chip" approach.
It's not far different from the current Bitmain 1385 on GH/chip after factoring the node shrink.


It's also a positive for using a new process node, tends to increase yield some.

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January 20, 2016, 08:38:07 PM
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Wow over 100 gh/s per 11w, Really want to see these on some little sidehack sticks, 8w 80gh/s would be fine by me.

8-11W/5V=1.6-2.2A, only on the best usb 3.0 hubs, but OK on many usb 3.0 hubs with a good Y-cable.
Not sure that the stick usb connector will handle >1.6A, but it is a question to sidehack.
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January 20, 2016, 08:39:48 PM
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this product video seems legit, which matters much more:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZPum2zqGPE

11w, 104Gh/s, 0.107J/Gh
That is not for bitfury.com it redirects you. That is the scam not that Bitfury is.

why you are referencing a legit youtube link with something completely unrelated?
I quoted the wrong post it was one or two above you it seems to be removed now. The video is legit.
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