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You're saying that from a miner's perspective, not Bitmain's perspective though. Your finances and success are not their finances and success.
Then as a result, their success with this chip has come at the expense of their customers' losses (read: anyone who bought Batch 1-7). Class acts indeed... That is the exact formula for every Bitcoin miner manufacturer... ever. |
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There are several different types of Bitcoin clients. The most secure are full nodes like Bitcoin Core, which will follow the rules of the network no matter what miners do. Even if every miner decided to create 1000 bitcoins per block, full nodes would stick to the rules and reject those blocks.
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punin
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That is correct. We have just a handful of chips right now and all are used for R&D and profiling including occasional rapid unscheduled disassembly as we look for the limits of the chip  . We are expecting the engineering lots in a few weeks time. Luckily our schedule was not affected by the recent Taiwan earthquake. Our total hash power has increased due to our Gldani immersion cooling datacenter getting to full capacity. So my information was correct 6 pages ago that you do not have a reference board built yet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1291890.msg13810862#msg13810862I would think not having the engineering samples "for a few weeks" that an end of March product release for home miners is an aggressive (and likely impossible) task. Having said that, I think if you haven't ran a full batch of chips then you are expecting everything to go without a hitch with Batch 1 chips. I think that is also a very ambitious expectation for a new 16nm chip. I am going to go out on a limb and say end of April or beginning of May is a better bet. Will you take 1 BTC bet?  Not sure what we are betting on but I will definitely take the bet- So I will order 50Th-100Th the first day the miners are announced, if they arrive to me before April 1 I will pay you 1 BTC but if they do not then you send me 1 BTC. How does that sound? Deal! Well.. I know for 100% now that I will lose this bet, so please post your BTC address Kilo17 so I can settle it. |
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March 30, 2016, 09:17:16 AM |
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Well.. I know for 100% now that I will lose this bet.
What bet do you think you'd win now, punin, the 1st of what month? |
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March 30, 2016, 09:40:33 AM |
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That is correct. We have just a handful of chips right now and all are used for R&D and profiling including occasional rapid unscheduled disassembly as we look for the limits of the chip . We are expecting the engineering lots in a few weeks time. Luckily our schedule was not affected by the recent Taiwan earthquake. Our total hash power has increased due to our Gldani immersion cooling datacenter getting to full capacity. So my information was correct 6 pages ago that you do not have a reference board built yet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1291890.msg13810862#msg13810862I would think not having the engineering samples "for a few weeks" that an end of March product release for home miners is an aggressive (and likely impossible) task. Having said that, I think if you haven't ran a full batch of chips then you are expecting everything to go without a hitch with Batch 1 chips. I think that is also a very ambitious expectation for a new 16nm chip. I am going to go out on a limb and say end of April or beginning of May is a better bet. Will you take 1 BTC bet? Not sure what we are betting on but I will definitely take the bet- So I will order 50Th-100Th the first day the miners are announced, if they arrive to me before April 1 I will pay you 1 BTC but if they do not then you send me 1 BTC. How does that sound? Deal! Well.. I know for 100% now that I will lose this bet, so please post your BTC address Kilo17 so I can settle it. damn i KNEW i should have gotten in on that i was calling this since the bet started... no offense dude but you are so full of shit butfury dosent give a fuk about us and never has everyones just too busy on your dick to admit it just fuk off already go back to your for -profit private mining ya disappointing asshat (eh im just mad cause that bet was easy money and i missed out but my owrds are true) BITFURY IZ FULL OF SHIT |
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That is correct. We have just a handful of chips right now and all are used for R&D and profiling including occasional rapid unscheduled disassembly as we look for the limits of the chip . We are expecting the engineering lots in a few weeks time. Luckily our schedule was not affected by the recent Taiwan earthquake. Our total hash power has increased due to our Gldani immersion cooling datacenter getting to full capacity. So my information was correct 6 pages ago that you do not have a reference board built yet. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1291890.msg13810862#msg13810862I would think not having the engineering samples "for a few weeks" that an end of March product release for home miners is an aggressive (and likely impossible) task. Having said that, I think if you haven't ran a full batch of chips then you are expecting everything to go without a hitch with Batch 1 chips. I think that is also a very ambitious expectation for a new 16nm chip. I am going to go out on a limb and say end of April or beginning of May is a better bet. Will you take 1 BTC bet? Not sure what we are betting on but I will definitely take the bet- So I will order 50Th-100Th the first day the miners are announced, if they arrive to me before April 1 I will pay you 1 BTC but if they do not then you send me 1 BTC. How does that sound? Deal! Well.. I know for 100% now that I will lose this bet, so please post your BTC address Kilo17 so I can settle it. The 16nm chips are arrived to the integrators or they aren't yet? They are made or not aviable yet? |
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March 30, 2016, 06:41:50 PM |
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damn i KNEW i should have gotten in on that i was calling this since the bet started...
no offense dude but you are so full of shit
butfury dosent give a fuk about us and never has
everyones just too busy on your dick to admit it
just fuk off already go back to your for -profit private mining ya disappointing asshat
(eh im just mad cause that bet was easy money and i missed out but my owrds are true)
BITFURY IZ FULL OF SHIT
He/Bitfury aren't full of shit. They are just doing whatever brings the most for their company. Full of shit is HashFash or cypherdoc who blatantly lied and took money for pre-orders that they never delivered. Bitfury just posted an announcement, but never took any money from us so we must give them credit for this. If they give a fuck about the forum who got them the start-up money, they don't, but life is never fair so we must move on. I bet that if you had more than 50M$ and a couple of 20-40MW datacenters you wouldn't give a fuck also about this forum so just chill |
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March 30, 2016, 06:46:50 PM |
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damn i KNEW i should have gotten in on that i was calling this since the bet started...
no offense dude but you are so full of shit
butfury dosent give a fuk about us and never has
everyones just too busy on your dick to admit it
just fuk off already go back to your for -profit private mining ya disappointing asshat
(eh im just mad cause that bet was easy money and i missed out but my owrds are true)
BITFURY IZ FULL OF SHIT
He/Bitfury aren't full of shit. They are just doing whatever brings the most for their company. Full of shit is HashFash or cypherdoc who blatantly lied and took money for pre-orders that they never delivered. Bitfury just posted an announcement, but never took any money from us so we must give them credit for this. If they give a fuck about the forum who got them the start-up money, they don't, but life is never fair so we must move on. I bet that if you had more than 50M$ and a couple of 20-40MW datacenters you wouldn't give a fuck also about this forum so just chill MEH i cant expect you are any others on their dicks to realize. ever wonder why everyone scams you all so bad? your all a buncha no spined pussies, thats why. fuk bitfury i personally WOULD care who gave me the startup money a.ka. who made me rich. but thats me, i have honor and a spine, unlike punin and you guys. |
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March 30, 2016, 06:51:21 PM |
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BITFURY
"WE WILL SELL DATACENTERS TO MLM PONZIS LIKE BITCLUB, BUT SORRY NO CHIPS FOR COMMUNITY, YOU GUYS AINT WORTH OUR TIME"
I WILL BE REPOSTING THIS, enough is enough, you guys let knc fuk you in the ass, well not me man screw bitfury. really tho,
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March 30, 2016, 06:55:08 PM |
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I know if I was a policy maker for a multi-million-dollar enterprise, I'd certainly pay attention to someone incredibly rude, profane, and displaying the English and typing skills of a second-grader.
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March 30, 2016, 07:20:37 PM |
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Sorry if OT, but Googling "Buy BitFury 16nm miner" didn't get me anywhere.
1. What gear is/has been mass-produced using the 16nm BitFury chips?
2. Any guesstimates on % of (total current) hashrate these chips represents?
Sorry again if wrong thread & thanks in advance for any info/links.
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March 30, 2016, 07:24:46 PM |
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Scroll up a bit.
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March 30, 2016, 07:47:07 PM |
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^^
Thanks, skimmed through the last pages. Not interested in buying myself, wanted to know if commercial mining farms are using the chips & guess at what percentage of the hashrate they are responsible for.
From skimming this thread, I'm guessing no & none?
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March 30, 2016, 07:57:34 PM |
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That's the general assumption. Bitfury's good at being quiet about their stuff, so there's no telling for sure what exists and what doesn't, but from what we've heard there is no mass deployment of their new chips yet. They probably won't be building miners that see retail sales directly, but were planning on getting chips to third-party developers. I don't know that that has happened yet.
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March 30, 2016, 08:01:52 PM |
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Thanks for taking the time to answer, appreciated.
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March 30, 2016, 08:06:29 PM |
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MEH i cant expect you are any others on their dicks to realize. ever wonder why everyone scams you all so bad?
your all a buncha no spined pussies, thats why.
fuk bitfury
i personally WOULD care who gave me the startup money a.ka. who made me rich. but thats me, i have honor and a spine,
unlike punin and you guys.
Hey retard, nobody scammed me. HashFash was just an example which I smelled as a scam long before most of the forum users. Go back to your cave! I WILL BE REPOSTING THIS, enough is enough, you guys let knc fuk you in the ass, well not me man screw bitfury. really tho,
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March 30, 2016, 08:06:53 PM |
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That's the general assumption. Bitfury's good at being quiet about their stuff, so there's no telling for sure what exists and what doesn't, but from what we've heard there is no mass deployment of their new chips yet. They probably won't be building miners that see retail sales directly, but were planning on getting chips to third-party developers. I don't know that that has happened yet.
I assume there's some private miners out there with bitfury's new chip, but they must be silently replacing their current miners in datacenters to keep it secret. We don't know crap for sure now, the global hashrate could be 0.01% 16nm bitfury or 10%, nobody's sure. I liked the past with bitfury building their own miners, but sadly those days are over and the old stickminers by bitfury are gone. Who knows, they might never release this chip and hog it themselves so that difficulty drives skyward and bitmain will become our only hope. Purely speculation now. |
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March 30, 2016, 08:13:25 PM |
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That's the general assumption. Bitfury's good at being quiet about their stuff, so there's no telling for sure what exists and what doesn't, but from what we've heard there is no mass deployment of their new chips yet. They probably won't be building miners that see retail sales directly, but were planning on getting chips to third-party developers. I don't know that that has happened yet.
Are you "unbound" enough that you can disclose your state of any BitFury centric work? I assume you have received neither documentation, nor actual chips from BitFury? Chips can be late for a variety of reasons outside of BitFury's control. Documentation though should be available entirely at their discretion and interest in putting forth the effort. That's kinda worrisome. |
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March 30, 2016, 08:19:12 PM |
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Did Bitfury ever build their own stickminer? All the ones I know of were independent projects.
And if Bitmain becomes our only hope, we're screwed. In the past year they've really only sold overpriced gear with mediocre performance and reliability and, since the market puts up with it, will probably continue on that trend. I'd like to see Spondoolies come out ahead; their stuff was overly expensive but at least it was because of complexity instead of greed, and they didn't intentionally abuse their customer base.
alh - I have signed no agreements limiting my ability to do or say whatever I want. That said, I handed off chip acquisition and the details thereof to kilo17, since he's more administrative and has more money to wave around, so I don't really know any details. I have not received chips or documentation; I have been asking for documentation for over a month. I'm still working on reverse-engineered Avalon A3218 stuff for concept testing.
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March 30, 2016, 08:44:46 PM |
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Step zero - don't be an ass
Step one - display proof in a rational manner
Step two - discourse civilly
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March 30, 2016, 09:55:17 PM |
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Step zero - don't be an ass
Step one - display proof in a rational manner
Step two - discourse civilly
AleScamHole is not the type of name that would do it politely. I am thinking of an alter ego name for my self BlowMeBitches MoronsAllofYou FoolsWhyBotherWithBTC All come to mind. For a nasty poster name. Just post really nasty stuff. Somedays I think I could do this not most. As for bitfury, bitmaintech and or Avalon. I prefer bitfury to do the right thing and I believe they will |
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