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March 04, 2016, 03:33:06 PM
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Who could think it is a good idea to give someone rights who is sick in the head. There is something wrong with these people and need to seek help. This can also br especially dangerous

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March 04, 2016, 03:33:42 PM
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Internet? Really?
Funny then why does 89% of child sexual assault cases involve persons known to the child, such as a caretaker or family acquaintance?

Source: http://www.yellodyno.com/html/child_molester_stats.html

But again I bet you know it better of course.
Yes this is statistic but you here just have tip of the iceberg.
I see internet as their new playground where they can stay anonymous and they can
psychically molest child. This is not in statistic.
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March 04, 2016, 03:34:55 PM
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Who could think it is a good idea to give someone rights who is sick in the head. There is something wrong with these people and need to seek help. This can also br especially dangerous

Who said that? Just quote it where we said that.

We never said that. Just explained you can't punish someone for a crime they still haven't comited.
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March 04, 2016, 03:36:40 PM
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Who could think it is a good idea to give someone rights who is sick in the head. There is something wrong with these people and need to seek help. This can also br especially dangerous
As you can see many here disagree with you and me. I wonder why ?
Maybe they are afraid for human rights in global..

My stand is clear they are sick persons.
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March 04, 2016, 03:39:43 PM
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Who could think it is a good idea to give someone rights who is sick in the head. There is something wrong with these people and need to seek help. This can also br especially dangerous
As you can see many here disagree with you and me. I wonder why ?
Maybe they are afraid for human rights in global..

My stand is clear they are sick persons.

That's precisely because we support global human rights that we stand here... Sending someone to jail for a crime he still hasn't comited isn't normal.
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March 04, 2016, 03:45:06 PM
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Who could think it is a good idea to give someone rights who is sick in the head. There is something wrong with these people and need to seek help. This can also br especially dangerous

Who said that? Just quote it where we said that.

We never said that. Just explained you can't punish someone for a crime they still haven't comited.
look at below


There is something I don't understand...

You keep talking about pedophilia as if it was something perticulary strange and horrible, something that should be destroyed by all means and which is not natural at all.
The fact is... Pedophilia is just a sexual orientation.
You're saying "This is something morbid." but it IS a sexual orientation. Like liking men, women, animals, objects, trees...


This must be stopped.
If we acknowledge them this we will become nothing less than animals.
Why anyone didn't quote this is wrong!? This is just the beginning of their rights.
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March 04, 2016, 03:50:25 PM
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There is something I don't understand...

You keep talking about pedophilia as if it was something perticulary strange and horrible, something that should be destroyed by all means and which is not natural at all.
The fact is... Pedophilia is just a sexual orientation.
You're saying "This is something morbid." but it IS a sexual orientation. Like liking men, women, animals, objects, trees...


This must be stopped.
If we acknowledge them this we will become nothing less than animals.
Why anyone didn't quote this is wrong!? This is just the beginning of their rights.

So what? It's not because he's saying it's a sexual orientation that he acknowledges their rights.

Anyway calm down, the guy is wrong:
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Definition of sexual orientation in English:
noun

[MASS NOUN]
A person’s sexual identity in relation to the gender to which they are attracted; the fact of being heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.

So it's not a sexual orientation. He probably just didn't understand well the world. Why are you making such a fuss?
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March 04, 2016, 04:07:06 PM
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
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The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

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March 04, 2016, 04:10:44 PM
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
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The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

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You're caricaturing a bit the thing ^^

The idea is to consider pedophiles as humans with their rights as long as they're not found guilty. That's all.

I didn't see anyone say something like "you gotta understand them, why couldn't they live this way?"
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March 04, 2016, 04:18:37 PM
Last edit: March 04, 2016, 05:28:10 PM by Wilikon
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
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The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes

You're caricaturing a bit the thing ^^

The idea is to consider pedophiles as humans with their rights as long as they're not found guilty. That's all.

I didn't see anyone say something like "you gotta understand them, why couldn't they live this way?"


By definition all transient beings on this planet are humans. Animals have no human rights. According to you, the word "predator" should never be used as the concept only exists after the fact, never before.









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March 05, 2016, 02:15:27 AM
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
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The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.

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March 05, 2016, 08:45:43 AM
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@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.
I don't know if you had a time to watch, but i did.
After talk with "decoy kid" they had a chance to stop if they had an attack of conscience
 but many of them crossed the line.
Because they are predators!
 And they are from different social layers, doctors, cops even teachers.
You can see many of them are came with alcohol and condoms and even cameras!

This is good show is you asking me! At the end "they" are behind the bars!
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March 05, 2016, 12:49:31 PM
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
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The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".

A - pedophiles are predators
B - having pedophile dreams is not a crime
A - pedophiles should be seen as a threat to children, as predators
B - you cannot criminalize people for having dreams
A - pedophiles are predators dreaming of abusing small children
B - so what, this is not a crime and it should not be
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - no one is defending people abusing children here, but they should have the right not to be seen as sick because they have dreams, just like everyone else.
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - they are not criminals


Etc, etc...

Some people right in this thread do not agree pedophiles are predators.





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March 05, 2016, 12:54:23 PM
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
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The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.

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March 05, 2016, 12:59:56 PM
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile=predator=criminal “Rights” Marches On


It is that simple.


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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile=predator=criminal “Rights” Marches On


It is that simple.




But you can be pedophile without breaking any laws so that isn't correct.
It is that simple.

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March 05, 2016, 01:22:16 PM
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What's dangerous is a room full of people with no idea spouting opinion as factual usefulness. All the hate doesn't mean anything but hate.

Whether or not pedophilia has any usefulness is a conversation that is not possible.
Whether it is possible to be a respectable pedophile is another converstaion that must not be had.

These conversations must never be had, pedophilia must be destroyed by my internet powers!
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March 05, 2016, 01:39:04 PM
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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

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This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile=predator=criminal “Rights” Marches On


It is that simple.




But you can be pedophile without breaking any laws so that isn't correct.
It is that simple.


Thank you. Posting my post again to prove your point:

Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


A - pedophiles are predators
B - having pedophile dreams is not a crime
A - pedophiles should be seen as a threat to children, as predators
B - you cannot criminalize people for having dreams
A - pedophiles are predators dreaming of abusing small children
B - so what, this is not a crime and it should not be
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - no one is defending people abusing children here, but they should have the right not to be seen as sick because they have dreams, just like everyone else.
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - they are not criminals



You did exactly that.

It is that simple.


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March 05, 2016, 01:44:08 PM
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What's dangerous is a room full of people with no idea spouting opinion as factual usefulness. All the hate doesn't mean anything but hate.

Whether or not pedophilia has any usefulness is a conversation that is not possible.
Whether it is possible to be a respectable pedophile is another converstaion that must not be had.

These conversations must never be had, pedophilia must be destroyed by my internet powers!
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You could have a direct link here so people don't have to use google.

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Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile “Rights” Marches On: Thread title 100% accurate. Everybody agrees now.




Yep, didn't expect to come out of this thread agreeing with you... this fucking forum.


It's OK. You can fight me in another battle, in another thread.
 Smiley


The people fought to say the title was a lie. Then the fought to say the gay lobby was right to distance themselves from nambla. Then the same people said being born gay is a natural thing. Then the next logical step was to not see pedophiles as predators but as "born this way" humans. Then it was: for this to happen, a movement needs to march on, to change people's mind.

Hmm...

Now in their mind the pedophile defenders are accepting the fact the gay lobby was wrong to reject nambla as part of their minority group, as we are all humans. Not predators.

 Roll Eyes






This is where things go south in your argument.  Pedophiles should be seen as potential predators and I don't think many people in this thread disagree with that, but they should also be seen as people that were born with a disorder to make them attracted to kids, and focus on all the possible alternatives you can give since you can't convict somebody on a thought crime.


@Yugo, I don't see what your issue is with To Catch a Predator at all.  I see it as the same as trying to bait out a potential rapist in a way that the show could show things to look out for.  The key is that you wouldn't appear on the show had you not attempted to commit a crime and been caught by the Cyber Watchdog group.  It's not just some random guy showing up at the house and getting on TV, they always have extensive chat logs showing the adult knew the victim was underage, many times sending them nude pictures in the chatting process.

Like it or not, honeypotting is a completely legal method of catching criminals as long as it doesn't cross the line to entrapment.  Also, we have shows like COPS that focus on potential criminals all the time and they are just going off a random call half the time.


Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


The "hunting" done by "predators" is criminal activity so I think predator=criminal is correct.



Shocking Times: Movement for Pedophile=predator=criminal “Rights” Marches On


It is that simple.




But you can be pedophile without breaking any laws so that isn't correct.
It is that simple.


Thank you. Posting my post again to prove your point:

Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal".


A - pedophiles are predators
B - having pedophile dreams is not a crime
A - pedophiles should be seen as a threat to children, as predators
B - you cannot criminalize people for having dreams
A - pedophiles are predators dreaming of abusing small children
B - so what, this is not a crime and it should not be
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - no one is defending people abusing children here, but they should have the right not to be seen as sick because they have dreams, just like everyone else.
A - are pedophiles predators?
B - they are not criminals


You did exactly that.
It is that simple.

"Simple jedi mind trick by the pedophile defenders: substitute the word "predator" with the word "criminal"."
I already said predator=criminal so what does it matter if we replace word "predator" with word "criminal"?

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