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December 24, 2015, 08:45:08 PM
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Also everyone: Technacoin is making sure their upcoming Bitcoin forum has members signing up with legal names, SSN and credit card info so you can be sure that our forum will be much more professional.
There's a site I won't be visiting.   Good deal for the both of us.
SS is to prevent money laundering. We're just trying to protect people from scammers and ban evaders. We want to be 100% professional and if you hide your legal name, you're probably trying to hide something.


Here on BitcoinTalk, I don't attempt to use it to make real money these days so I have every right to stay anonymous but the ones that are trying to make some significant cash here and there should probably be upfront about who they are. If you're a good person, we can be sure you have nothing to hide. I once use to think anonymity was good but now I'm thinking there's no point to it unless you're trying to hide something negative about you. Doxxing is allowed here, so we might as well just doxx everyone.

You have got to be trolling us.  If you truly think like this then you should go work for the government.  Better yet, don't.

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December 24, 2015, 08:50:58 PM
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Also everyone: Technacoin is making sure their upcoming Bitcoin forum has members signing up with legal names, SSN and credit card info so you can be sure that our forum will be much more professional.
There's a site I won't be visiting.   Good deal for the both of us.
SS is to prevent money laundering. We're just trying to protect people from scammers and ban evaders. We want to be 100% professional and if you hide your legal name, you're probably trying to hide something.


Here on BitcoinTalk, I don't attempt to use it to make real money these days so I have every right to stay anonymous but the ones that are trying to make some significant cash here and there should probably be upfront about who they are. If you're a good person, we can be sure you have nothing to hide. I once use to think anonymity was good but now I'm thinking there's no point to it unless you're trying to hide something negative about you. Doxxing is allowed here, so we might as well just doxx everyone.

You have got to be trolling us.  If you truly think like this then you should go work for the government.  Better yet, don't.
No. Definitely not trolling. I use to think just like you but now I'm seeing establishment does indeed know best.


But let's be honest: Why don't you want people to sign up to a site that deals with money with legal information...? You want scammers to continue on and on? You want scammers to be anonymous forever and hide behind a wall? SS is the only way to really stop it. If you really want Bitcoin to succeed one day and be given mass adoption, the first thing we're gonna have to do is come forward and prove we're good people and that we have nothing to hide. Every single day I watch the price drop and consistently see accusation after accusation about Bitcoin's negative image. A news team even went so far as to say Bitcoin was behind the Paris attacks. Criminals hide. Good people do not.
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December 24, 2015, 09:05:05 PM
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But let's be honest: Why don't you want people to sign up to a site that deals with money with legal information...? You want scammers to continue on and on? You want scammers to be anonymous forever and hide behind a wall? SS is the only way to really stop it. If you really want Bitcoin to succeed one day and be given mass adoption, the first thing we're gonna have to do is come forward and prove we're good people and that we have nothing to hide. Every single day I watch the price drop and consistently see accusation after accusation about Bitcoin's negative image. A news team even went so far as to say Bitcoin was behind the Paris attacks. Criminals hide. Good people do not.
You're trolling and ignoring the comments that easily destroy your stupid arguments (yes, they're stupid). Access to such a huge amount of real life, personal information is catastrophic especially in the world of Bitcoin.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention; will be avoiding the site on principle.
Yes.

All I can say is, good luck creating a forum on an anonymous currency where you need more information than Paypal in order to create an account. Lauda pretty much says everything else I could want to.
If I were a hacker I would be very excited about that forum.

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December 24, 2015, 09:09:16 PM
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Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.
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December 24, 2015, 09:15:02 PM
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Ban evasion policy must not be allowed in this forum. If allowed, it'll help scammers get away with scamming one more time. I think they should be IP banned also so that they cannot make alt accounts. theymos must have to be strict here.
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December 24, 2015, 10:41:20 PM
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Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.
Is his security better than Target's, Adobe's, OPM, etc, security? Are you saying that this one guy is smarter than all of the security personnel that work at big corporations who have had huge hacks recently which compromised hundreds of thousands of SSN's, credit card numbers, birthdates, addresses, even fingerprints. If he is so good at security, is he famous for being a super good security person? Does he work for some huge company that values it security and has never been hacked?

Basically, I highly doubt that that forum will be secure enough to keep all of that sensitive and private information secure from hackers. It will be a really easy target for hackers to get some easy SSNs and Credit Card numbers to steal.

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December 25, 2015, 01:54:26 AM
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Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.
Is his security better than Target's, Adobe's, OPM, etc, security? Are you saying that this one guy is smarter than all of the security personnel that work at big corporations who have had huge hacks recently which compromised hundreds of thousands of SSN's, credit card numbers, birthdates, addresses, even fingerprints. If he is so good at security, is he famous for being a super good security person? Does he work for some huge company that values it security and has never been hacked?

Basically, I highly doubt that that forum will be secure enough to keep all of that sensitive and private information secure from hackers. It will be a really easy target for hackers to get some easy SSNs and Credit Card numbers to steal.
Luckily he's thought ahead on that. I asked him about this and he mentioned until he gets enough money to fund electronic security, he takes paper documents mailed to his business. Paper happily cannot be hacked. When he gets that money, it's impossible to hack a strong antivirus malware and all around anti malicious adware software.
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December 25, 2015, 02:04:29 AM
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Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.
Is his security better than Target's, Adobe's, OPM, etc, security? Are you saying that this one guy is smarter than all of the security personnel that work at big corporations who have had huge hacks recently which compromised hundreds of thousands of SSN's, credit card numbers, birthdates, addresses, even fingerprints. If he is so good at security, is he famous for being a super good security person? Does he work for some huge company that values it security and has never been hacked?

Basically, I highly doubt that that forum will be secure enough to keep all of that sensitive and private information secure from hackers. It will be a really easy target for hackers to get some easy SSNs and Credit Card numbers to steal.
Luckily he's thought ahead on that. I asked him about this and he mentioned until he gets enough money to fund electronic security, he takes paper documents mailed to his business. Paper happily cannot be hacked. When he gets that money, it's impossible to hack a strong antivirus malware and all around anti malicious adware software.
Paper takes a lot of time, it's inconvenient. I doubt his business will get a lot of business while he does that.

It is most certainly possible to hack a strong antivirus software. And those software cannot protect against vulnerabilities in software that do not require malware. If he doesn't sufficiently protect himself from attacks like buffer overflows (e.g. heartbleed), sql injection, etc, the best antivirus software will do absolutely nothing. In fact, having antivirus on a server is completely pointless. There is no good reason to have an antivirus on a server since a server should never be running any binary file except for the server software and its dependencies. Nothing else should ever be run, nor can anything else be run if the server owner isn't interacting with server except for site updates. And those should not be messing with the software anyways.

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December 25, 2015, 02:10:40 AM
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Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.
Is his security better than Target's, Adobe's, OPM, etc, security? Are you saying that this one guy is smarter than all of the security personnel that work at big corporations who have had huge hacks recently which compromised hundreds of thousands of SSN's, credit card numbers, birthdates, addresses, even fingerprints. If he is so good at security, is he famous for being a super good security person? Does he work for some huge company that values it security and has never been hacked?

Basically, I highly doubt that that forum will be secure enough to keep all of that sensitive and private information secure from hackers. It will be a really easy target for hackers to get some easy SSNs and Credit Card numbers to steal.
Luckily he's thought ahead on that. I asked him about this and he mentioned until he gets enough money to fund electronic security, he takes paper documents mailed to his business. Paper happily cannot be hacked. When he gets that money, it's impossible to hack a strong antivirus malware and all around anti malicious adware software.
Paper takes a lot of time, it's inconvenient. I doubt his business will get a lot of business while he does that.

It is most certainly possible to hack a strong antivirus software. And those software cannot protect against vulnerabilities in software that do not require malware. If he doesn't sufficiently protect himself from attacks like buffer overflows (e.g. heartbleed), sql injection, etc, the best antivirus software will do absolutely nothing. In fact, having antivirus on a server is completely pointless. There is no good reason to have an antivirus on a server since a server should never be running any binary file except for the server software and its dependencies. Nothing else should ever be run, nor can anything else be run if the server owner isn't interacting with server except for site updates. And those should not be messing with the software anyways.
Eh. Speak for yourself. It's gotten a lot of interest so far of 1,568 in just a couple of weeks in getting the word out to potential future users. Of course he'll need more than a little over a thousand to make a full strong community but I'd tell you that is a huge following for a forum that isn't out yet in my humble opinion.
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December 26, 2015, 02:55:51 PM
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Ban evasion policy must not be allowed in this forum. If allowed, it'll help scammers get away with scamming one more time. I think they should be IP banned also so that they cannot make alt accounts. theymos must have to be strict here.
IP bans are easily avoided with the help of VPN'S.

Not only that, IP's alternate. People that did nothing wrong can randomly get a banned IP.
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December 27, 2015, 03:25:31 PM
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Somebody spamming Bitcoin is dead in speculation from a different account everytime they get banned would only prove my point. Fix the ban evasion issue and you won't have to manually delete nonsense like that.
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December 27, 2015, 03:27:36 PM
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Somebody spamming Bitcoin is dead in speculation from a different account everytime they get banned would only prove my point. Fix the ban evasion issue and you won't have to manually delete nonsense like that.
They are getting nuked immediately by a bot. No one is manually deleting them.

There is nothing that can be done about it. You can't "fix ban evasion" for this since the guy posting is probably a bot which is using a proxy and constantly changing its ip address. There is nothing other than the account's first post that indicates that it is ban evading. You literally cannot ban them for ban evading if they haven't posted anything yet.

If you say that this can be fixed, then please, tell us.

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December 27, 2015, 04:21:08 PM
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They are getting nuked immediately by a bot. No one is manually deleting them.
Technically no. Sometimes the majority of the posts are handled by the bot and sometimes by the staff; I don't mind though, that's why we are here for.

There is nothing that can be done about it. You can't "fix ban evasion" for this since the guy posting is probably a bot which is using a proxy and constantly changing its ip address. There is nothing other than the account's first post that indicates that it is ban evading. You literally cannot ban them for ban evading if they haven't posted anything yet.

If you say that this can be fixed, then please, tell us.
Just ignore OP as he is a troll. He ignores arguments that destroy his ignorant points. His viewpoint is that this forum should place restrictions for everyone because of some bad actors, and that it should become a huge database of personal information. What could possibly go wrong?  Roll Eyes

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December 27, 2015, 04:34:24 PM
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Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.
I don't trust that, sir.  Anonymity and trust are huge things with bitcoin in case you haven't noticed and I fall on the side of personal freedom.  That includes freedom to do what I want with my money without the government or anyone else knowing.  Even, and especially if, I'm not doing anything illegal!!

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December 27, 2015, 04:40:25 PM
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Somebody spamming Bitcoin is dead in speculation from a different account everytime they get banned would only prove my point. Fix the ban evasion issue and you won't have to manually delete nonsense like that.

It's impossible to fix ban evasion, even If someone came up with an idea to limit an user to make more than 1 account you can still buy accounts from other peope, it's simply impossible and you know it. Stop trolling.
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December 27, 2015, 06:42:33 PM
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Somebody spamming Bitcoin is dead in speculation from a different account everytime they get banned would only prove my point. Fix the ban evasion issue and you won't have to manually delete nonsense like that.
They are getting nuked immediately by a bot. No one is manually deleting them.

There is nothing that can be done about it. You can't "fix ban evasion" for this since the guy posting is probably a bot which is using a proxy and constantly changing its ip address. There is nothing other than the account's first post that indicates that it is ban evading. You literally cannot ban them for ban evading if they haven't posted anything yet.

If you say that this can be fixed, then please, tell us.
I just said how it can be fixed. Signing up with legal names which is what my business partner's forum will do along with SSN to identify who you are, and matching the number with the name. If it doesn't match then it's a fake account/spam account/ban evader that automatically cannot sign up.
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December 27, 2015, 06:45:07 PM
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Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.
I don't trust that, sir.  Anonymity and trust are huge things with bitcoin in case you haven't noticed and I fall on the side of personal freedom.  That includes freedom to do what I want with my money without the government or anyone else knowing.  Even, and especially if, I'm not doing anything illegal!!
If anonymity was such a huge thing, how come people doxx people and the moderators sit back and allow it? Bitcoin is not anonymous.
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December 27, 2015, 07:00:12 PM
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If anonymity was such a huge thing, how come people doxx people and the moderators sit back and allow it? Bitcoin is not anonymous.
Bitcoin is not anonymous, it is pseudonymous. This forum is the same, and if you have made it possible to link your forum pseudonym to your real identity, then that is your own fault. When people dox each other, they are using publicly available information, you would be able to find the exact same information if you actually spent time to look for it.

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December 27, 2015, 11:42:49 PM
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Why isn't OP banned yet ? This clearly is not the forum for delicate snowflakes, and OP is super "special".
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December 27, 2015, 11:49:51 PM
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Also @The Pharmacist, its not like the founder of Technacoin would allow the government to steal your hard earnings on the new forum he's making. He just requires some small information to keep tabs on users to prevent malicious activity. He won't share your information to the public. It's for his eyes only. 100% confidentiality assured. It was his idea and I work for him so I gotta stick with him. With the new forum, he isn't even looking for users to pay to use it unless they want special features include.
I don't trust that, sir.  Anonymity and trust are huge things with bitcoin in case you haven't noticed and I fall on the side of personal freedom.  That includes freedom to do what I want with my money without the government or anyone else knowing.  Even, and especially if, I'm not doing anything illegal!!
If anonymity was such a huge thing, how come people doxx people and the moderators sit back and allow it? Bitcoin is not anonymous.
Greek, please.  I know you can see the difference between doxxing scammers and actually requiring people to cough up that info when they register on a forum.  SS# should not be readily available to admins or anyone.  What other forum does that??

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