Moving from slush to where with 29 Th/s ? NOW: competition pool vs. pool.

[gnu123]

Have been hobby-mining on Slush, Bitminter and BTC-guild in periods since 2012.

Guild is closed since long, Bitminter seems to have become very small, slush where i have been mining last weeks with a total hash of 29 Th/s does not feel right anymore.

Looking att the pool luck stats today on slush gives :


Day : 46%     Week : 86%     Month : 81%


I´m no expert, but bad luck for a month ?
Thinking about changing pool but to where ?

Have checked https://blockchain.info/pools and as a long time miner it doesnt feel right with all that miningpower centralized into a few big pools in china, but i´m no expert here.


What i want when i mine is a little better luck than slush pool and a steady payout. ok... i know how stupid that sounds asking for luck, but atleast not so much bad luck would be nice :-)

As i remember it when i was mining last time in the late 2013, the payouts from BTC-guild was very steady, is there any pools today that can give a somewhat steady payout or is a smaller pool always depending a lot on luck ?

How is Eligius and CKpool ? Have been checking out their webpages but im not sure in which threshold of BTC a payout is made or if it is possible to change setting.

Slush have a very good interface for monitoring miners, both Eligius and CKpool seems to have a much more simple ( any ? ) GUI for monitoring ?

I´m open for any proposals, maybe even start mining at any of the big Chinese dragons would be the best for me ?

[jonnybravo0311]

Ultimately, the choice is yours.  You certainly seem to have done some research.  I would stay away from the big pools - not only because they're big, but because the top couple use SPV mining.

Mining on any pool with any payout other than PPS will mean you suffer from variance.  The pool gets lucky, you get lucky.  The pool is unlucky, so are you.  Obviously, the smaller the pool, the more profound that effect will be.  I'd love to see your hash at my own pool, but since the variance at a pool with 3PH scares you, well... you're certainly welcome to come on over.

I suggest diversifying your hash.  Point it to multiple pools.  If you like bitminter, kano and Eligius, then go for it.  You've got nearly 30TH/s... so point 10 at each of them .

[philipma1957]

you could try mmpool.org

[gnu123]

Thnx for the input !

Without changin from the topiuc to much, this is the stats from slush right now :


37%
Day

81%
Week

80%
Month

Whats going on ? Is it even possible that many blocks the last days take 12h or more to finnish ?

Can it be some kind of attack on the stratum protocol ? The pool is doing something it should not ?

I remember some years ago when slush pool had some really bad connection problems, i think it was pingflood or synflood attack or something like that.
After one day or so i got an e-mail from slush pool saying i was one of the biggest miners so i got a new address and port for connecting my miners, the smaller miners i guess they got nothing.

After that im not so sure of what to think, the pool owner did what got him the most cash out of the situation and left the smaller miners out in the cold, for me it was good but i really didnt like the feeling.

[-ck]

How is  CKpool ? Have been checking out their webpages but im not sure in which threshold of BTC a payout is made or if it is possible to change setting.

With kano ckpool you get paid out with every block solved once the block matures so there is no threshold setting.

[kano]

...
Slush have a very good interface for monitoring miners, both ... CKpool seems to have a much more simple ( any ? ) GUI for monitoring ?
...

The block statistics, that anyone can see, are the best available - specifically the stats at the top of the page.

You need an account and to login to see the worker stats, pool stats, graphs, etc (as you also need on slush to do the same ...)

There's apps for monitoring kano.is that others have written quite a while ago, one is listed in the first post just before the old competitions:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789369.0

[gnu123]

I have now registered on the CKPool, been lurking arround a bit and is planning to move the miners to the CKPool this week.

But how do i add workers ?

Under Workers i find /Shifts/Shifts graph/Workers/management but no "Add Worker" button ?

I have 9 miners right now and would like to be able to monitor them all sepparately on the pool.

[-ck]

I have now registered on the CKPool, been lurking arround a bit and is planning to move the miners to the CKPool this week.

But how do i add workers ?

Under Workers i find /Shifts/Shifts graph/Workers/management but no "Add Worker" button ?

I have 9 miners right now and would like to be able to monitor them all sepparately on the pool.

Just choose a workername with your mining software, ckpool auto-adds any workers it sees.

[gnu123]

I have now registered on the CKPool, been lurking arround a bit and is planning to move the miners to the CKPool this week.

But how do i add workers ?

Under Workers i find /Shifts/Shifts graph/Workers/management but no "Add Worker" button ?

I have 9 miners right now and would like to be able to monitor them all sepparately on the pool.

Just choose a workername with your mining software, ckpool auto-adds any workers it sees.

Thnx !

I just read it "Your worker name can be whatever you choose and will be created when your miner connects to the pool.
Registered username or Bitcoin address, followed by a dot '.' or an underscore '_', followed by a worker name."

 

[Mitak]

I would leave my gear pointed at slush

[gnu123]

Mmmm ok, just of interest why ?

Slush pool have been very good over the years, as bitminter and BTC-guild that was my favourite.
But now it feeels like the right time to try something new.

Cant say i like poolhopping, but 3 pools over 5 years is all i have been using.

[Meuh6879]

With 29 TH/s, you have 4.682 BTC per month now ( https://bitcoinwisdom.com/bitcoin/difficulty top-right ).
Luck can accelerate payment ... BUT NOT CHANGE this amount of reward.

Sorry.

[jonnybravo0311]

Luck most certainly can and will change that amount.  Just like good luck means you'll make more than expectations, bad luck means the opposite.

[gnu123]

Today i moved the first S7 miner to Kano´s pool, will try out for 2 weeks and if it turn out fine i will move the other minrs to to Kano´s pool.


If the luck is 90% - 110% it´s ok for me,, but 82% for over a month seems strange. Dont think i will get so much more with a new pool, but getting 90% or more over a longer period seems reasonable to me.

[Meuh6879]

Luck most certainly can and will change that amount.  Just like good luck means you'll make more than expectations, bad luck means the opposite.

  pool are not so stupid ... they have restriction for a member when it switch.
like P2Pool, too.

[kano]

Today i moved the first S7 miner to Kano´s pool, will try out for 2 weeks and if it turn out fine i will move the other minrs to to Kano´s pool.


If the luck is 90% - 110% it´s ok for me,, but 82% for over a month seems strange. Dont think i will get so much more with a new pool, but getting 90% or more over a longer period seems reasonable to me.

Well actually there's another issue to consider there also.

Luck is based on blocks found, not time.

So a pool with 80% bad luck for a month that found 200 blocks, is the same bad luck as a smaller pool 1/10 the size with 80% bad luck for 10 months that took 10 months to find 200 blocks.

Yeah it's actually all about the CDF[Erl] that I show on my site.
That number is how you compare pools since every pool is a different size ...
and big pools having bad luck for a long period of time is (as I said) the same chance as a small pool having that bad luck for WAY longer.

[gnu123]

Today i moved the first S7 miner to Kano´s pool, will try out for 2 weeks and if it turn out fine i will move the other minrs to to Kano´s pool.


If the luck is 90% - 110% it´s ok for me,, but 82% for over a month seems strange. Dont think i will get so much more with a new pool, but getting 90% or more over a longer period seems reasonable to me.

Well actually there's another issue to consider there also.

Luck is based on blocks found, not time.

So a pool with 80% bad luck for a month that found 200 blocks, is the same bad luck as a smaller pool 1/10 the size with 80% bad luck for 10 months that took 10 months to find 200 blocks.

Yeah it's actually all about the CDF[Erl] that I show on my site.
That number is how you compare pools since every pool is a different size ...
and big pools having bad luck for a long period of time is (as I said) the same chance as a small pool having that bad luck for WAY longer.

I understand, and having bad luck for 10 months would be really strange :-)

I appreciate that You take the time to be active here on the forum and answer questions !

And now i´m gonna log in to the pool and see if something has happened over the day.

[Meuh6879]

3 months is a good space to judge about the luck.

[PatrickMacH]

Have been hobby-mining on Slush, Bitminter and BTC-guild in periods since 2012.
[...]
I´m no expert, but bad luck for a month ?
Thinking about changing pool but to where ?

Tryout p2pool.611.to offering a mining efficiency of more than 100% (http://p2pool.co/):

Pool URL: stratum+tcp://p2pool.611.to:9332
Username: YourBitCoinAddress/6000+1024
Password: xxx (or whatever you like)

Payouts of P2Pool are directly into your Bitcoin wallet.

To optimize the revenue you may tryout to modify the difficulty factor after YourBitCoinAddress username which fits best to your miners, like i.e. YourBitCoinAddress/8000+2048. As a rule of thumb use lower difficulty factors for slow miners and higher difficulty factors for heavy miners.
If you set the difficulty factor too high for slow miners, your miners will probably produce too many orphans (like I just tried it out   )

[kano]

That doesn't affect the orphan shares or even what you are paid.

The shares you see at that difficulty aren't shares at all, simply information to see how your miner is performing.