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December 28, 2015, 09:00:23 AM
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<insert picture of the sun and energy>

Do you see how big this number is?

I got dozens of used addresses but they were all empty already.

Bullshit. Proof, or GTFO.


Bullshit? Here, take some of them:

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5HpHagTPJmwV3kz55wDUAqAMPn87RwPLDTPXSF9EHqBW6813PKj
18uWtZAB1NBGRqcTZiFX8hKeYYve1uAZMP
biginteger number: 26959946667150639794667015087019630673637144422540572481103610249216

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biginteger number: 26959946667150639794667015087019630673637144422540572481103610249216

This number is as big as the sun, yet it was cracked.

It has no BTC value inside, but it actually already had bitcoins.

Now whats the chances of that? of finding a used address?

The sun can be big, but the luck factor can sometimes overcome all those improbable probabilities.

Remember, almost every day somewhere in the world there is someone winning the lottery.
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December 28, 2015, 09:30:14 AM
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biginteger number: 26959946667150639794667015087019630673637144422540572481103610249216

This number is as big as the sun, yet it was cracked.
Actually, that number is equal to 100000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 hex.  It's not exactly random.  I'm not sure what's going on here, but it's very fishy.
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December 28, 2015, 09:34:27 AM
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Now whats the chances of that? of finding a used address?

1/(2^160). IOW, Bullshit.

Posting a handful of addresses anyone can find for themselves by trawling through a block explorer is in no way proof that you generated a random number, hashed it, and ended up with a bitcoin address that had been previously used.

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December 28, 2015, 09:58:02 AM
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Isn't this attempted theft ?

If you would randomly find an address is 5 BTC in it, your saying you won't take it Huh

Its an attempted scam to sell you the database.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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December 28, 2015, 10:01:29 AM
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It's math. .. come on guys I don't believe you can trust him  Roll Eyes.


You can't 'hack' the math ....
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December 28, 2015, 02:08:55 PM
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ok guys let's do some math.

Look at this transaction here:

https://blockchain.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15

those 32.896 BTC were sent to multiple addresses, all the private keys of those addresses seem to be generated by some kind of formula.

For example:

Address 2:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFU74sHUHy8S
1CUNEBjYrCn2y1SdiUMohaKUi4wpP326Lb
Biginteger PVK value: 3
Hex PVK value: 3

Address 3:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFU76rnZwVdz
19ZewH8Kk1PDbSNdJ97FP4EiCjTRaZMZQA
Biginteger PVK value: 7
Hex PVK value: 7

Address 4:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFU77MfhviY5
1EhqbyUMvvs7BfL8goY6qcPbD6YKfPqb7e
Biginteger PVK value: 8
Hex PVK value: 8

Address 5:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFU7Dq8Au4Pv
1E6NuFjCi27W5zoXg8TRdcSRq84zJeBW3k
Biginteger PVK value: 21
Hex PVK value: 15

Address 6:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFU7Tmu6qHxS
1PitScNLyp2HCygzadCh7FveTnfmpPbfp8
Biginteger PVK value: 49
Hex PVK value: 31

Address 7:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFU7hDgvu64y
1McVt1vMtCC7yn5b9wgX1833yCcLXzueeC
Biginteger PVK value: 76
Hex PVK value: 4C

Address 8:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFU8xvGK1zpm
1M92tSqNmQLYw33fuBvjmeadirh1ysMBxK
Biginteger PVK value: 224
Hex PVK value: E0

Address 9:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFUB3vfDKcxZ
1CQFwcjw1dwhtkVWBttNLDtqL7ivBonGPV
Biginteger PVK value: 467
Hex PVK value: 1d3

Address 10:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFUBTL67V6dE
1LeBZP5QCwwgXRtmVUvTVrraqPUokyLHqe
Biginteger PVK value: 514
Hex PVK value: 202

Address 11:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFUGxXgtm63M
1PgQVLmst3Z314JrQn5TNiys8Hc38TcXJu
Biginteger PVK value: 1155
Hex PVK value: 483

Address 12:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFUW5RtS2JN1
1DBaumZxUkM4qMQRt2LVWyFJq5kDtSZQot
Biginteger PVK value: 2683
Hex PVK value: a7b

Address 13:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFUspniiQZds
1Pie8JkxBT6MGPz9Nvi3fsPkr2D8q3GBc1
Biginteger PVK value: 5216
Hex PVK value: 1460

Address 14:

KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qYjgd9M7rFVfZyiN5iEG
1ErZWg5cFCe4Vw5BzgfzB74VNLaXEiEkhk
Biginteger PVK value: 10544
Hex PVK value: 2930

and so on...

until the addresses 50 (1MEzite4ReNuWaL5Ds17ePKt2dCxWEofwk) it was already cracked by someone.

Any ideas what's the formula behind the generation of these addresses?

The prize would be ~32 BTC Smiley
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December 28, 2015, 02:16:46 PM
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until the addresses 50 (1MEzite4ReNuWaL5Ds17ePKt2dCxWEofwk) it was already cracked by someone.

Any ideas what's the formula behind the generation of these addresses?

The prize would be ~32 BTC Smiley


The first 32 bit are known to be vulnerable, due to bad RNG. Someone wrote a paper about it. AFAIK No founds have been stolen. What you found is nothing special, you are no the first and you will not be the last. The first 100 (in decimal) private keys are known "brain wallets".

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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December 28, 2015, 02:27:17 PM
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until the addresses 50 (1MEzite4ReNuWaL5Ds17ePKt2dCxWEofwk) it was already cracked by someone.

Any ideas what's the formula behind the generation of these addresses?

The prize would be ~32 BTC Smiley


The first 32 bit are known to be vulnerable, due to bad RNG. Someone wrote a paper about it. AFAIK No founds have been stolen. What you found is nothing special, you are no the first and you will not be the last. The first 100 (in decimal) private keys are known "brain wallets".

Don't come here mocking my comment just because you are a Hero Member.

Read again my comment and check the facts.

The first 100 private keys on that sequence are not known as you say, otherwise the addresses until the address 100 would be spent already.

I know there is a formula behind those addresses, someone just needs to find out.
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December 28, 2015, 02:37:21 PM
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until the addresses 50 (1MEzite4ReNuWaL5Ds17ePKt2dCxWEofwk) it was already cracked by someone.

Any ideas what's the formula behind the generation of these addresses?

The prize would be ~32 BTC Smiley


The first 32 bit are known to be vulnerable, due to bad RNG. Someone wrote a paper about it. AFAIK No founds have been stolen. What you found is nothing special, you are no the first and you will not be the last. The first 100 (in decimal) private keys are known "brain wallets".

Don't come here mocking my comment just because you are a Hero Member.

You know so little about this I wonder if you actually managed to write the code for this. Trying to attack me personally (or rather the account Im posting from) will only make you more silly.

Your outputs clearly states

Biginteger PVK value: 3, 7, 8, 21, 49, 76, 224, 467, 514, 1155, 2683, 5216, 10544

Read again my comment and check the facts.

Fact, the numbers above are within 10544/2160*100 = 7.21*10-43 percent of all possible version 1 addresses. They are the first few pages on directory.io.

The first 100 private keys on that sequence are not known as you say, otherwise the addresses until the address 100 would be spent already.

I know there is a formula behind those addresses, someone just needs to find out.

I did not talk about a sequence. I talked about the integers from 0 to 99 converted used as private keys as well as the integers from 0 to 232-1 used as private keys.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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December 28, 2015, 02:41:57 PM
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In other words: In your attempt to search the ocean for treasure you checked the first few molecules and found traces of loot. You now think these traces mean you are close to the big thing, while in reality you only found the traces of idiots from the past that though it was a good idea to put their treasure at the edge of the ocean. They are wiser now and use randomly generated spots for their loot.

Im not really here, its just your imagination.
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December 28, 2015, 02:44:59 PM
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In other words: In your attempt to search the ocean for treasure you checked the first few molecules and found traces of loot. You now think these traces mean you are close to the big thing, while in reality you only found the traces of idiots from the past that though it was a good idea to put their treasure at the edge of the ocean. They are wiser now and use randomly generated spots for their loot.

Im glad you translated this because i had totally lost what was going on in the posts previous to this one. now i have a rough idea what your talking about Wink

So bitcoin is still safe Smiley

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December 28, 2015, 02:54:13 PM
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In other words: In your attempt to search the ocean for treasure you checked the first few molecules and found traces of loot. You now think these traces mean you are close to the big thing, while in reality you only found the traces of idiots from the past that though it was a good idea to put their treasure at the edge of the ocean. They are wiser now and use randomly generated spots for their loot.

Ok let's try again.

I'm not looking for any treasure, I'm just playing around with PVKs, you have a problem with that?

And to be honest with you I don't really care about the 32 BTC, I'm just in for the challenge.

Look, if you look at that transaction and at those addresses, you will see there is a sequence.

The addresses from 0 to 99 are the least of them.

Look at the numbers!

Address 2, pvk decimal value: 3
Address 3, pvk decimal value: 7
Address 4, pvk decimal value: 8
Address 5, pvk decimal value: 21
Address 6, pvk decimal value: 49
Address 7, pvk decimal value: 76
Address 8, pvk decimal value: 224
Address 9, pvk decimal value: 467
Address 10, pvk decimal value: 514
Address 11, pvk decimal value: 1155
Address 12, pvk decimal value: 2683
Address 13, pvk decimal value: 5216
Address 14, pvk decimal value: 10544
Address 15, pvk decimal value: ?

Until addresses 50 they were cracked already.

Is it so difficult to see that there is a sequence here?
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December 28, 2015, 02:55:09 PM
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In other words: In your attempt to search the ocean for treasure you checked the first few molecules and found traces of loot. You now think these traces mean you are close to the big thing, while in reality you only found the traces of idiots from the past that though it was a good idea to put their treasure at the edge of the ocean. They are wiser now and use randomly generated spots for their loot.

Im glad you translated this because i had totally lost what was going on in the posts previous to this one. now i have a rough idea what your talking about Wink

So bitcoin is still safe Smiley
I think is is a good explanation for non technical bitcoin users like me. But how previously generated keys are potentially vulnerable and the one we had now are safe?
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December 28, 2015, 03:03:22 PM
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In other words: In your attempt to search the ocean for treasure you checked the first few molecules and found traces of loot. You now think these traces mean you are close to the big thing, while in reality you only found the traces of idiots from the past that though it was a good idea to put their treasure at the edge of the ocean. They are wiser now and use randomly generated spots for their loot.

Im glad you translated this because i had totally lost what was going on in the posts previous to this one. now i have a rough idea what your talking about Wink

So bitcoin is still safe Smiley

bitcoin is safe, and this thread is not to prove it otherwise.

it actually shows how safe bitcoin is.

shorena didn't translate anything, he is just throwing dust to your face.

if you guys calm down and look at the sequence you will understand what I'm trying to say.
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December 28, 2015, 03:04:30 PM
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So you're trying to steal other peoples bitcoins?

FYI its not fun its attempted theft.


This is not really correct. You could say that testing the network to see how it handles higher amount of transactions is an attack on Bitcoin, but doing this is actually useful to know the system's limits, and they are pretty good since no matter how much he brute forces he isn't going to get much out of it except a warm computer which may be useful in winter.
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December 28, 2015, 03:28:19 PM
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https://blockchain.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15

Does look like someone placed an interesting puzzle in the blockchain for us.

It appears to me to be a game of some sort:  if you crack the sequence you can get the BTC.

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December 28, 2015, 03:37:51 PM
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https://blockchain.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15

Does look like someone placed an interesting puzzle in the blockchain for us.

It appears to me to be a game of some sort:  if you crack the sequence you can get the BTC.

Exactly.

Finally someone that listened to my words.

So, how to crack it?
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December 28, 2015, 03:44:29 PM
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https://blockchain.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15

Does look like someone placed an interesting puzzle in the blockchain for us.

It appears to me to be a game of some sort:  if you crack the sequence you can get the BTC.

Exactly.

Finally someone that listened to my words.

So, how to crack it?
Easy, figure out the sequence, follow it, take the BTC off the generated addresses as you go along.

OK, so figuring out the sequence may actually be hard, but then if it wasn't hard it would not be worth doing, right?

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December 28, 2015, 03:49:26 PM
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https://blockchain.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15

Does look like someone placed an interesting puzzle in the blockchain for us.

It appears to me to be a game of some sort:  if you crack the sequence you can get the BTC.

Exactly.

Finally someone that listened to my words.

So, how to crack it?
Easy, figure out the sequence, follow it, take the BTC off the generated addresses as you go along.

OK, so figuring out the sequence may actually be hard, but then if it wasn't hard it would not be worth doing, right?

Smiley

I already tried everything I could, no success.

I give up on it, but I'm curious if someone else can break it.
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December 28, 2015, 03:51:39 PM
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You could have started with.

https://blockchain.info/tx/08389f34c98c606322740c0be6a7125d9860bb8d5cb182c02f98461e5fa6cd15

Does look like someone placed an interesting puzzle in the blockchain for us.

It appears to me to be a game of some sort:  if you crack the sequence you can get the BTC.

instead of.

So just for the fun I created this bot that brute forces Bitcoin addresses.
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