Master-P SCAMMER. I lost complete faith in this forum now.

[TECSHARE]

Dude has been scammering for many years it seems. So what's his real last name, Lau or Lew?

What's crazy is all it would have taken was a Google search to find out he shouldn't have been trusted, right? I'm sure others who dealt with him had his name and etc but maybe I'm missing something?

Not his escrow customers. AFAIK only those who traded physical goods had the name and they probably didn't have a good reason to go digging.

Pretty much. I was already plenty occupied with the freak show of people with pitchforks and others accusing me of a laundry list of misdeeds simply for bringing the information I had to light. Interesting how all the pitchfork holders are silent now that the dox are released, who would have guessed it? Why would I waste my time researching some scammer that didn't rip me off for people who literally never even thanked me for my efforts in getting a nearly 50% total repayment? Several were even refunded completely. So let me break it down, my reward for helping here was:

-frustration, lost time, and effort
-harassment and multiple accusations against me
-people posting personal information about me
-one guy said thank you in public when he felt obligated to by my comments

I don't know why more people don't help this "community"! You are welcome Bitcointalk!

[Winalunt]

That is not completely true.If you contain some evidence but wish not to disclose it and which might help the scammer run away then it shows your selfishness.I don't think it took you more than an hour to dig the pm's and post his dox.
However, what you did should be appreciated or thanked at least but you are exaggerating a lot.

[Fortify]

Dude has been scammering for many years it seems. So what's his real last name, Lau or Lew?

What's crazy is all it would have taken was a Google search to find out he shouldn't have been trusted, right? I'm sure others who dealt with him had his name and etc but maybe I'm missing something?

Not his escrow customers. AFAIK only those who traded physical goods had the name and they probably didn't have a good reason to go digging.

Pretty much. I was already plenty occupied with the freak show of people with pitchforks and others accusing me of a laundry list of misdeeds simply for bringing the information I had to light. Interesting how all the pitchfork holders are silent now that the dox are released, who would have guessed it? Why would I waste my time researching some scammer that didn't rip me off for people who literally never even thanked me for my efforts in getting a nearly 50% total repayment? Several were even refunded completely. So let me break it down, my reward for helping here was:

-frustration, lost time, and effort
-harassment and multiple accusations against me
-people posting personal information about me
-one guy said thank you in public when he felt obligated to by my comments

I don't know why more people don't help this "community"! You are welcome Bitcointalk!

There's your problem tecshare, you act like you are doing the work to be selfless and help people out, but then you say.. oh they recovered 50% and never paid me a penny! It's great if you're trying to out scammers, just stop doing it in hopes of a reward. Also, if you're going to dox someone because you have concrete proof, then do it - don't drop teasers of information or publish then revoke the detail.

[Laosai]

Dude has been scammering for many years it seems. So what's his real last name, Lau or Lew?

What's crazy is all it would have taken was a Google search to find out he shouldn't have been trusted, right? I'm sure others who dealt with him had his name and etc but maybe I'm missing something?

Not his escrow customers. AFAIK only those who traded physical goods had the name and they probably didn't have a good reason to go digging.

Pretty much. I was already plenty occupied with the freak show of people with pitchforks and others accusing me of a laundry list of misdeeds simply for bringing the information I had to light. Interesting how all the pitchfork holders are silent now that the dox are released, who would have guessed it? Why would I waste my time researching some scammer that didn't rip me off for people who literally never even thanked me for my efforts in getting a nearly 50% total repayment? Several were even refunded completely. So let me break it down, my reward for helping here was:

-frustration, lost time, and effort
-harassment and multiple accusations against me
-people posting personal information about me
-one guy said thank you in public when he felt obligated to by my comments

I don't know why more people don't help this "community"! You are welcome Bitcointalk!

There's your problem tecshare, you act like you are doing the work to be selfless and help people out, but then you say.. oh they recovered 50% and never paid me a penny! It's great if you're trying to out scammers, just stop doing it in hopes of a reward. Also, if you're going to dox someone because you have concrete proof, then do it - don't drop teasers of information or publish then revoke the detail.

Well after you gotta admit it doesn't really give you the feel of having a friendly community you'd like to help.
And it's more or less always the problem. The community is not exactly... Friendly...

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Man you can almost make out what he looks like in this photo...

[TECSHARE]

That is not completely true.If you contain some evidence but wish not to disclose it and which might help the scammer run away then it shows your selfishness.I don't think it took you more than an hour to dig the pm's and post his dox.
However, what you did should be appreciated or thanked at least but you are exaggerating a lot.

There's your problem tecshare, you act like you are doing the work to be selfless and help people out, but then you say.. oh they recovered 50% and never paid me a penny! It's great if you're trying to out scammers, just stop doing it in hopes of a reward. Also, if you're going to dox someone because you have concrete proof, then do it - don't drop teasers of information or publish then revoke the detail.

Who said I expected to get paid? This is what I am talking about, just a line of uninvolved neckbeards making up shit so they can take potshots. Just because you are too ignorant to figure out why this strategy worked doesn't mean it was ineffective. What I did, the way I did it resulted in people getting a significant portion of their money back which is virtually unheard of, so you can stick your criticism right up your ass.

Now this is madness! Why is TECSHARE not revealing his DOX in public? He should not get convinced by master-p sending tiny amount of repayments.

I've seen TECSHARE do something similar before, he put DOX live on a well known scammer and took them down again shortly after. I suspect Master P has probably paid him off

Any more bullshit you want to pull directly from your ass while you are in there?

[morantis]

The fact is that escrow is no better than a blind faith loan.  Either way you are giving your coins to another person, that you very likely do not know.  Are loan websites better?  Website escrows?  No matter what, you are trusting a total stranger to return something you have given them.  It either will or will not happen.

[kingaltcoins]

The fact is that escrow is no better than a blind faith loan.  Either way you are giving your coins to another person, that you very likely do not know.  Are loan websites better?  Website escrows?  No matter what, you are trusting a total stranger to return something you have given them.  It either will or will not happen.

It is better to go for multi signature escrows like bitrated because no one can get a chance to scam there.
Even if the scammer does not sign the transaction, the mediator will and I am sure the mediator will not ruin his reputation for a one time bribe from the scammer.

There's your problem tecshare, you act like you are doing the work to be selfless and help people out, but then you say.. oh they recovered 50% and never paid me a penny! It's great if you're trying to out scammers, just stop doing it in hopes of a reward. Also, if you're going to dox someone because you have concrete proof, then do it - don't drop teasers of information or publish then revoke the detail.

tecshare has done a lot in helping the community or else that coward would not have sent a portion of his scam amount to the victims staying near him.

[morantis]

The fact is that escrow is no better than a blind faith loan.  Either way you are giving your coins to another person, that you very likely do not know.  Are loan websites better?  Website escrows?  No matter what, you are trusting a total stranger to return something you have given them.  It either will or will not happen.

It is better to go for multi signature escrows like bitrated because no one can get a chance to scam there.
Even if the scammer does not sign the transaction, the mediator will and I am sure the mediator will not ruin his reputation for a one time bribe from the scammer.

There's your problem tecshare, you act like you are doing the work to be selfless and help people out, but then you say.. oh they recovered 50% and never paid me a penny! It's great if you're trying to out scammers, just stop doing it in hopes of a reward. Also, if you're going to dox someone because you have concrete proof, then do it - don't drop teasers of information or publish then revoke the detail.

tecshare has done a lot in helping the community or else that coward would not have sent a portion of his scam amount to the victims staying near him.

I completely agree that some cases are less likely to be taken advantage of.  I agree that websites and escrows help.  I am just stating that any case can end in ruin.

[SebastianJu]

But honestly, i somehow doubt a bit that his doxx is real. I know there are ways to fake all of this, even when receiving goods at this address. And till now no one has checked him out it seems.

If i would be involved and would have invested alot. Then i would go after him even on a personal level. Visiting him, private investigator and so on. Just to get the coins back or send him to justice.

I posted the dox directly sent to me by his account in the past. I confirmed those dox with Blazed, who confirmed them directly with the same Master-P who verified his signature using an old signing address. The only way it is possible the information is incorrect is if he in fact did give up control of his wallets, accounts, and passwords to a 3rd party, in which case he is still responsible for facilitating fraud. Additionally if the dox were not real why would he make repayments to prevent their release?

It's possible that it is correct. I only think most scammers would have been smart enough to fake this. Should have been not so hard since I can imagine many ways, some are used by carders too to receive their stolen goods without revealing their identity.

Might very well be that he paid some back just to lower the amount of risk of being sued. And because he knows no one will track him down. So at least some info would have been correct.

If he really scammed knowing their real address was out there then this was a pretty stupid scam. Maybe he was badly in need of money though when he has time to play counterstrike all day then this need surely would have the wrong reason.

[SebastianJu]

The fact is that escrow is no better than a blind faith loan.  Either way you are giving your coins to another person, that you very likely do not know.  Are loan websites better?  Website escrows?  No matter what, you are trusting a total stranger to return something you have given them.  It either will or will not happen.

It is better to go for multi signature escrows like bitrated because no one can get a chance to scam there.
Even if the scammer does not sign the transaction, the mediator will and I am sure the mediator will not ruin his reputation for a one time bribe from the scammer.

Or... the mediator gets reputation, then establishes alot of selling trades as being a seller with another account, then delays everything a bit and at the end he, as the mediator and he as the buyer... releases the bitcoin to his scammy address.

No, as long as I do not miss a point the same thing like with master-P could have happened there.

I admit I did not check bitrated out so I might miss something.

[SebastianJu]

That is not completely true.If you contain some evidence but wish not to disclose it and which might help the scammer run away then it shows your selfishness.I don't think it took you more than an hour to dig the pm's and post his dox.
However, what you did should be appreciated or thanked at least but you are exaggerating a lot.

I think what he complaints about is that he was pushed to post the doxx publicly, which at the end did not serve much effect since he gave the doxx to the victims before already.

I know from experience that having a way to push an issuer or something is worth a lot. People fearing to lose their anonymity is a great push worth for scammers to pay back most of the time.

If you give that away without a real purpose or effect, remember the victims already had the doxx, then you lose alot of power.

[SebastianJu]

So he moved from canada to london and is actually employed... well, another police that is in charge. Maybe another chance in another countries laws.

Maybe he though he is safe by moving. Really matching the amateurish scam that happened.

He has so much to lose now. Being found in england, checking out his companies boss, finding his facebook and so on there, checking out relatives and friends.

Man... how could he think that this will end well for him.

And i still don't get why no other victims show up. It seems he did a lot of scams already. Why not clean up this community from scammy rubbish? I think they don't grow back like hydra heads. Maybe it would make the community a step safer?

[mexxer-2]

Who said I expected to get paid? This is what I am talking about, just a line of uninvolved neckbeards making up shit so they can take potshots. Just because you are too ignorant to figure out why this strategy worked doesn't mean it was ineffective. What I did, the way I did it resulted in people getting a significant portion of their money back which is virtually unheard of

Thanks for the help, I guess once you get your money back you pretty much forget about who helped you get it back. Here's to hoping I wasn't the only person who thanked you for the effort you put into helping the community, having no selfish reasons

[Quickseller]

Who said I expected to get paid? This is what I am talking about, just a line of uninvolved neckbeards making up shit so they can take potshots. Just because you are too ignorant to figure out why this strategy worked doesn't mean it was ineffective. What I did, the way I did it resulted in people getting a significant portion of their money back which is virtually unheard of

Thanks for the help, I guess once you get your money back you pretty much forget about who helped you get it back. Here's to hoping I wasn't the only person who thanked you for the effort you put into helping the community, having no selfish reasons

Anything that anyone does that is detrimental to scammers is going to be an essentially thankless job. People you help will likely not truly understand that they were close to loosing their money (or in this case, how unlikely they were to receiving their money back), and the scammer you hurt will have an axe to grind against the person who outed them.

[SebastianJu]

Who said I expected to get paid? This is what I am talking about, just a line of uninvolved neckbeards making up shit so they can take potshots. Just because you are too ignorant to figure out why this strategy worked doesn't mean it was ineffective. What I did, the way I did it resulted in people getting a significant portion of their money back which is virtually unheard of

Thanks for the help, I guess once you get your money back you pretty much forget about who helped you get it back. Here's to hoping I wasn't the only person who thanked you for the effort you put into helping the community, having no selfish reasons

Anything that anyone does that is detrimental to scammers is going to be an essentially thankless job. People you help will likely not truly understand that they were close to loosing their money (or in this case, how unlikely they were to receiving their money back), and the scammer you hurt will have an axe to grind against the person who outed them.

Yes... it starts of taking the side of someone who is treated unfair by other members, maybe harrassed or similar things. There are some people on the forum who have an army of altaccounts and it seems, ALOT of time. They seem to have nothing other to do than turning other persons lives to hell. Checking out users that speak against them, searching errors they can use against them and harrassing even them then on threads.

And it ends with people who saved their money from being scammed away by using an escrow and they do not get the idea to tip the escrow for saving their money. I mean that outcome is even better than the deal being successfull.

Guess it is simply a case of not having thought about that.

[Quickseller]

Who said I expected to get paid? This is what I am talking about, just a line of uninvolved neckbeards making up shit so they can take potshots. Just because you are too ignorant to figure out why this strategy worked doesn't mean it was ineffective. What I did, the way I did it resulted in people getting a significant portion of their money back which is virtually unheard of

Thanks for the help, I guess once you get your money back you pretty much forget about who helped you get it back. Here's to hoping I wasn't the only person who thanked you for the effort you put into helping the community, having no selfish reasons

Anything that anyone does that is detrimental to scammers is going to be an essentially thankless job. People you help will likely not truly understand that they were close to loosing their money (or in this case, how unlikely they were to receiving their money back), and the scammer you hurt will have an axe to grind against the person who outed them.

Yes... it starts of taking the side of someone who is treated unfair by other members, maybe harrassed or similar things. There are some people on the forum who have an army of altaccounts and it seems, ALOT of time. They seem to have nothing other to do than turning other persons lives to hell. Checking out users that speak against them, searching errors they can use against them and harrassing even them then on threads.

And it ends with people who saved their money from being scammed away by using an escrow and they do not get the idea to tip the escrow for saving their money. I mean that outcome is even better than the deal being successfull.

Guess it is simply a case of not having thought about that.

I would not call trolling someone speaking out again them, that is harassing them.

I would not call stealing money and refusing to accept responsibility a mistake, that is theft.

[Spoetnik]

Who said I expected to get paid? This is what I am talking about, just a line of uninvolved neckbeards making up shit so they can take potshots. Just because you are too ignorant to figure out why this strategy worked doesn't mean it was ineffective. What I did, the way I did it resulted in people getting a significant portion of their money back which is virtually unheard of

Thanks for the help, I guess once you get your money back you pretty much forget about who helped you get it back. Here's to hoping I wasn't the only person who thanked you for the effort you put into helping the community, having no selfish reasons

Forgetting HOW this guy Master-P made his money ?
By fostering a "good" reputation..

No agenda ? Oh really ?

[TECSHARE]

Who said I expected to get paid? This is what I am talking about, just a line of uninvolved neckbeards making up shit so they can take potshots. Just because you are too ignorant to figure out why this strategy worked doesn't mean it was ineffective. What I did, the way I did it resulted in people getting a significant portion of their money back which is virtually unheard of

Thanks for the help, I guess once you get your money back you pretty much forget about who helped you get it back. Here's to hoping I wasn't the only person who thanked you for the effort you put into helping the community, having no selfish reasons

Forgetting HOW this guy Master-P made his money ?
By fostering a "good" reputation..

No agenda ? Oh really ?

Neckbeard Prime has spoken.

[SebastianJu]

Nearly two months again now. So that was it? The step by step for scammers worked fine?

Well, it probably is the amount that is not so high. But still... damaging escrow services on bitcointalk in general and then living happily with some K USD more than before.