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December 28, 2015, 02:06:19 PM |
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You can't beat a house edge.
All the bot can do is place bets strategically - nothing you wouldn't be able to do by hand. So no, it's impossible and it won't help.
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December 28, 2015, 02:06:55 PM |
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Why would it be online if it could beat some casino? Don't you think the creator would use it?
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December 28, 2015, 02:25:44 PM |
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If we had reliable way of creating computer/bot/script which can place bets and play in more efficient way - without cheating - than humans in random environment of casino games. Then all online casino would go bankrupt because this would be the only way of playing. But there is no way to create a bot which will play for you will have 'better luck'. Better forgot about it.
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December 28, 2015, 02:36:12 PM |
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There is no way to beat a casino with a bot unless you can hack the system to know the result in advance. The house edge can't be beaten in any way without cheating.
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December 28, 2015, 03:40:21 PM |
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Script are stuff for making bets according to a pre-programmed strategy, even when you are sleeping (but I wouldn't recommend that). So it's about speed and comfortability not about inventing some sort of "wonder strategy" on it's own.
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December 28, 2015, 03:50:53 PM |
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Before I start to program this bot,I wanted to know has anyone done this before ? Should I proceed with the algorithms or give up as its impossible?
Yes I'm sure there has been people program similar before, that goes without saying. It will not break the house though lol. You're best off leaving it if your plan is to become rich from it. If you just want something that will bet the way you want when you want without you needing to be there then go ahead and create it but be careful with it as it will be gambling your money. My advice is stay away and leave the house alone it won't end up the way you want.
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December 28, 2015, 03:56:09 PM |
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Finally, You'll create a martingale bot & it won't be successful because you don't have unlimited money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So don't bother to create another one...
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December 28, 2015, 03:56:25 PM |
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Why would you want to do that? The house edge is there, and you can't beat that. If it is for convenience in betting then I guess it should be ok, but I don't really understand that type of play since I don't really believe in gambling strategies for "casino like" games. So I do it for fun and if a bot is doing it for me it loses it's purpose I guess.
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December 28, 2015, 04:07:40 PM |
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Why would it be online if it could beat some casino? Don't you think the creator would use it?
Actually if you see the link properly,the creator doesn't exactly show how to beat a casino but how to play any online game with your strategies.I was just trying to expand the ideas to improvise on the bot.
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December 28, 2015, 04:09:49 PM |
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Script are stuff for making bets according to a pre-programmed strategy, even when you are sleeping (but I wouldn't recommend that). So it's about speed and comfortability not about inventing some sort of "wonder strategy" on it's own.
Yep! After some research I'm starting to realize now ,making a bot can only play the game just how a normal user will,nothing to do with beating the casino unless I can inject some most efficient algorithms to modify the scripts from the server side.
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December 28, 2015, 04:11:02 PM |
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Finally, You'll create a martingale bot & it won't be successful because you don't have unlimited money ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) So don't bother to create another one... Not exactly martingle I was looking for but something advanced like totally modifying the script and its functions probably increasing the chances of win on the highest odds.
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December 28, 2015, 04:27:37 PM |
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of course you cant do that if it was a possible thing to do no casinos would exist because they wouldnt make any profits out of players playing on it, in my opinion its impossible to beat the house edge with anything because if it was possible it wouldnt be profitable to run them
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December 28, 2015, 05:05:40 PM |
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well from what is see is that it gives u more option and give u a way to play more safely as it offers more features to bets to reduce ur risk. however, as statistics have said, there is no way u can win the house edge or else u can make all of them bankrupt already.
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December 28, 2015, 05:10:12 PM |
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You can't beat the casino in the long term. The house edge WILL make you lose in the end.
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December 28, 2015, 05:11:55 PM |
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No, because if you could the casino would shut down since it would lose money.
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December 28, 2015, 05:12:44 PM |
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yes online gaming systems are beatable using bots. but u need to know what u are doing , if not you could loose just like that. good luck with python ,check out all the libraries , check out Haskell too .
another note is ,Its not easy after all . u need a good understanding about AI
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December 28, 2015, 05:19:03 PM |
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i don't think so, if we can do that, we will see many programmers are richer than casinos' owners, but the fact is not that, so programming can't let you win in the long term unless you do sports arbitrage. Even if someone has a new programmer, casinos will improve the rule to stop them making money. besides, there are house edges, which help casinos win in the long term
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December 28, 2015, 05:20:52 PM |
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Script are stuff for making bets according to a pre-programmed strategy, even when you are sleeping (but I wouldn't recommend that). So it's about speed and comfortability not about inventing some sort of "wonder strategy" on it's own.
Yep! After some research I'm starting to realize now ,making a bot can only play the game just how a normal user will,nothing to do with beating the casino unless I can inject some most efficient algorithms to modify the scripts from the server side. Yeah you're right unless you know some bug/vulnerability you can't beat the house with a bot. figuring out bug like primedice had earlier where huffle robed a lot of btc from stunna.
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December 28, 2015, 05:31:26 PM |
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Going in the opposite direction, think that a bot can do efficient bets for giving wins in the short period. After this win, you can restart the cycle playing with more money...but you (or the bot) should know when to stop.... Everybody says that the house always win: but if this was true, NOBODY never win a single coin....and that's not true...so why don't try and test it?
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