Personal details for escrow

[Greentree]

Alright this is about how scammer ruined every signature campaigns around. This forum has mean something to me and especially the bitcoin and its community like this.

What just recently happened with master-p is now affecting the trust of this forum and all the companies running their services for us.

To make it fast is anyone on here agree that all escrow should have personal requirements submitted atleast to theymos or any trusted on dt list or if doesnt either work too since id can also be faked atleast a known person by the moderator and not those simply building up trusts and reputations.

Requirements are:
Id
Facebook account
Twitter
Instagram
Billing address

These should be all authentic and not a fake or an alt.

I think this is not a problem to those who wants to build trust and be an escrow to whatever the reason he has(to earn or to help this community or both) in the future.

Theymos is with us and can be trusted enough for these personal informations that only escrows are required to obtain.

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[hilariousandco]

All those can be easily faked or purchased so theymos having those details could just be a false sense of security or even help facilitate a scam if everyone thinks that they are 100% legit because they've given their personal details to him. Any member here whether staff or a very trusted legendary member can scam or sell or have their account hacked at any point so there's no foolproof way to stop anyone from ever scamming.

[DaddyMonsi]

Nothing will beat experience and tenure in this forum. Those successful trades will tell more about the reputation of person than those documents you posted there.

[HardForkComing]

You can't do anything about that. Everyone has a price.

People are flawed by nature. Trust no one.

People should go after the person who was originally using that account.

[OmegaStarScream]

It's not going to work , all of those things are accounts that anyone can make , buy etc ... so it's useless . Even ID & passport and those stuff can be faked so I don't see the point of this .
Honestly , It would be better if moderators and administrators handle the escrow things but it just will be too much for them and they don't have time for that .

[Jet Cash]

Well I don't use facebook, twitter or instagram. I'm also shocked that this board allows member accounts to be sold openly. Because of this, I will never use an escrow service from this board. I think it's a shame that I have had to come to this decision, as several members have been very helpful to me, and I am sure that they are honest. However, they don't offer an escrow service, and I think that says something as well.

I'd like to buy some Bitcoins, but I think I'm going to have to do this via a face to face meeting. It's a shame that there isn't an escrow facility in Bitcoin, but that goes against the finality of Bitcoin transactions.

[Greentree]

I already stated that these requirements can be faked easily but a real one can always be real even it took for a year but a fake person uses a faked personal information can be caught on the act even less than a month.

The information is should be for applying porpuses and not for an instant trust or reputation and the entire forum is the one to judge whether he or she is trusted enough.

And dt's only up to monitor these participants and the requirements they submitted are for monitoring porpuses only.

For example after 6 months a participant is builing trust so the dt can check if all the submitted details still be accurate after 6 months. But since i already mentioned it there should be some addition for the requirements.

Btw only a suggestion.

PEACE ALL

[TastyChillySauce00]

maybe mod or admin should've make their own escrow service ran by their trusted people , and for a reward they need a little fee for every transaction, so,if any inconvenience/problem happen

[mexxer-2]

maybe mod or admin should've make their own escrow service ran by their trusted people

Mods aren't "gods" they're only a part of the staff because of their ability to "combat" spam. If you give them power of having a centralized escrow service, they too will scam, given a false sense of security. Has happened before , not the exact thing but many mods have scammed/acted shadily

[helloeverybody]

If i ever build enough trust to escrow id be happy enough to supply those details to one of the mods, I think in generally most of the people who do escrow have been pretty good anyway. Ive never heard of someone running off with escrow funds tbh. Although from reading this thread im assuming that has happened.

[Patatas]

Won't be useful I feel.People sell phone/bank/identity verified localbitcoin.com accounts here openly and people buy them to scam users.Anybody will give fake phone number/verify it/provide all the legal documents for a few bucks.

[Patatas]

EDIT : Just I was speaking of verifying phone numbers ,we have a genius on our forum itself ,he can verify as many numbers as possible for $1 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1307777.0 There you go

[Mitak]

Only pgp signs can solve this

[achow101]

I already stated that these requirements can be faked easily but a real one can always be real even it took for a year but a fake person uses a faked personal information can be caught on the act even less than a month.

The information is should be for applying porpuses and not for an instant trust or reputation and the entire forum is the one to judge whether he or she is trusted enough.

And dt's only up to monitor these participants and the requirements they submitted are for monitoring porpuses only.

For example after 6 months a participant is builing trust so the dt can check if all the submitted details still be accurate after 6 months. But since i already mentioned it there should be some addition for the requirements.

Btw only a suggestion.

PEACE ALL

How can you check if fake information is faked? You don't really know who is behind that username. They could have provided stolen information. The info could be legit, just isn't theirs. You wouldn't know that though.

[traderbit]

For being escrow i would suggest to put some money on theymos wallet.
And there should be a limit on how much can an escrow hold. For example escrow #1 can handle only 5BTC and if it is "full' the next escrow deal should go to escrow #2 (if he accepts ofc) and so on.
I don't prefer this idea to send personal details as everything can be faked.

[Athertle]

Only pgp signs can solve this

How?

PGP keys can be bought and sold as well, which is supposedly what happened when master-P sold his account.

[onlinedragon]

Why we don't stop selling accounts on this forum. Make selling of your account lead to a permanent ban why people need a other account can us even do wonder if it will be done for good or ugly and dark cases.

[subSTRATA]

Only pgp signs can solve this

How?

PGP keys can be bought and sold as well, which is supposedly what happened when master-P sold his account.

anything can be sold, from email accounts, private keys, personal (official government issued) documents, you name it.
also, i think people havent gotten the update in that thread. theres more evidence pointing towards an exit scam rather than an account sale at this point, the claim of having the account sold is probably a cover up.

Why we don't stop selling accounts on this forum. Make selling of your account lead to a permanent ban why people need a other account can us even do wonder if it will be done for good or ugly and dark cases.

ban or not, account sales will continue offsite. just because heroin isnt legal doesnt mean people arent finding ways to buy it.

[onlinedragon]

Only pgp signs can solve this

How?

PGP keys can be bought and sold as well, which is supposedly what happened when master-P sold his account.

anything can be sold, from email accounts, private keys, personal (official government issued) documents, you name it.
also, i think people havent gotten the update in that thread. theres more evidence pointing towards an exit scam rather than an account sale at this point, the claim of having the account sold is probably a cover up.

Why we don't stop selling accounts on this forum. Make selling of your account lead to a permanent ban why people need a other account can us even do wonder if it will be done for good or ugly and dark cases.

ban or not, account sales will continue offsite. just because heroin isnt legal doesnt mean people arent finding ways to buy it.

Maybe a special report sale of accounts button somewhere on the site. People can free report if they see a sale of accounts and ban the sellers also. Make it again a great community without the rotten apples.

[Athertle]

also, i think people havent gotten the update in that thread. theres more evidence pointing towards an exit scam rather than an account sale at this point, the claim of having the account sold is probably a cover up.

Yeah, I was meaning to make the "supposedly" sound skeptical of the account sale.

Why we don't stop selling accounts on this forum. Make selling of your account lead to a permanent ban why people need a other account can us even do wonder if it will be done for good or ugly and dark cases.

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