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July 29, 2013, 11:05:19 AM
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Divergence on the hourly is a typical way to confirm a local top or that a correction is coming. It works in most other markets, but since most Bitcoin 'traders' have a "TA doesn't work" OR "Who cares, I'm buying!" mentality. No one cares, and the divergence can go on for a while. That's part of the reason why there aren't periodic corrections. Bitcoin traders have too much emotion which leads to retarded bubbles and devastating bursts (reverse bubbles?). So I agree with the replies above mine that you need to use a longer chart period to find these divergences to make effective trading decisions.

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July 29, 2013, 11:51:20 AM
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Divergence on the hourly is a typical way to confirm a local top or that a correction is coming. It works in most other markets, but since most Bitcoin 'traders' have a "TA doesn't work" OR "Who cares, I'm buying!" mentality. No one cares, and the divergence can go on for a while. That's part of the reason why there aren't periodic corrections. Bitcoin traders have too much emotion which leads to retarded bubbles and devastating bursts (reverse bubbles?). So I agree with the replies above mine that you need to use a longer chart period to find these divergences to make effective trading decisions.
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July 29, 2013, 12:05:39 PM
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Divergence on the hourly is a typical way to confirm a local top or that a correction is coming. It works in most other markets, but since most Bitcoin 'traders' have a "TA doesn't work" OR "Who cares, I'm buying!" mentality. No one cares, and the divergence can go on for a while. That's part of the reason why there aren't periodic corrections. Bitcoin traders have too much emotion which leads to retarded bubbles and devastating bursts (reverse bubbles?). So I agree with the replies above mine that you need to use a longer chart period to find these divergences to make effective trading decisions.
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July 29, 2013, 12:17:04 PM
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If during the next days the whale buyer (who seems to be resting today) will buy another 50k BTC up to 120$ (that's 28k + resistance),
the BTC for sale (in orders at least) on MtGox will drop below 40k, similar to the April bubble spike.

Sometimes, if it looks too bullish, it's actually bearish
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July 29, 2013, 02:02:16 PM
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If during the next days the whale buyer (who seems to be resting today) will buy another 50k BTC up to 120$ (that's 28k + resistance),
the BTC for sale (in orders at least) on MtGox will drop below 40k, similar to the April bubble spike.

Math fail?

89k-28k=61k

"resistance" obviously does not reduce coins on orderbook.
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July 29, 2013, 02:21:26 PM
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Well, yes, math fail, but my thought process was different. This last 'whale buy' was accompanied later by several 'dolphin buys' that
moved the market up significantly after the whale buy (didn't happen before). I expect this to happen again and stronger after the next whale buy.

Sometimes, if it looks too bullish, it's actually bearish
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July 29, 2013, 02:24:19 PM
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If during the next days the whale buyer (who seems to be resting today) will buy another 50k BTC up to 120$ (that's 28k + resistance),
the BTC for sale (in orders at least) on MtGox will drop below 40k, similar to the April bubble spike.
Walls never were support/resistance, man.
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July 29, 2013, 02:27:22 PM
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If during the next days the whale buyer (who seems to be resting today) will buy another 50k BTC up to 120$ (that's 28k + resistance),
the BTC for sale (in orders at least) on MtGox will drop below 40k, similar to the April bubble spike.
Walls never were support/resistance, man.

So you think if the 4k wall @100 disappeared it would not affect price action? Disappeared, not sold into.
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July 29, 2013, 02:31:23 PM
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So you think if the 4k wall @100 disappeared it would not affect price action? Disappeared, not sold into.
They never act as price support or resistance.
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July 29, 2013, 02:32:12 PM
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So you think if the 4k wall @100 disappeared it would not affect price action? Disappeared, not sold into.
They never act as price support or resistance.

So your answer is that it would have no effect? I'm not being mean, just trying to understand your point of view.
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July 29, 2013, 02:34:32 PM
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TA basics does not have such term as "bid/ask wall" at all. Support and resistance are: trend lines, moving averages, bollinger borders, price retracements, etc.
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July 29, 2013, 02:36:46 PM
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July 29, 2013, 02:41:45 PM
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TA basics does not have such term as "bid/ask wall" at all. Support and resistance are: trend lines, moving averages, bollinger borders, price retracements, etc.

so what is the answer?  Huh
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July 29, 2013, 03:07:40 PM
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TA basics does not have such term as "bid/ask wall" at all. Support and resistance are: trend lines, moving averages, bollinger borders, price retracements, etc.

so what is the answer?  ???

That lucif takes a "fucking forget the order book" approach to TA :P

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July 29, 2013, 03:07:57 PM
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Walls are just consequence, not cause. So they don't affect price changes.
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July 29, 2013, 04:48:15 PM
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Thai set all Bitcoin operations illegal.

https://bitcoin.co.th/trading-suspended-due-to-bank-of-thailand-advisement/?bettertitle
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July 29, 2013, 05:02:06 PM
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That is FUD, apparently.
I suggest reading the whole thread here.

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July 29, 2013, 06:23:45 PM
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That is FUD, apparently.
I suggest reading the whole thread here.

Even if it were true... they could just bribe the right people and continue... Wink


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July 29, 2013, 06:27:06 PM
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Yet another proof that price doesn't care about news.
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July 30, 2013, 06:41:59 PM
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Yet another proof that price doesn't care about news.

No I think it's just that nobody cares about Thailand
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