Do you support or oppose the death penalty?

[BADecker]

I definitely support the death penalty. But if a prosecutor misleads, or if the cops lie, or if there is knowingly false evidence presented, then the death penalty should be required with torture on those who caused an innocent person to be executed.

[Xsinx]

Death Penalty for Child Molester and Rapist  and drug pushers. theres no place for them in the society but in hell   

[bryant.coleman]

I support the death penalty, not just for murders, but also for other crimes such as high treason, rape and home invasion. Death penalty is the only reliable deterrent to prevent the crimes. Look at the countries where death penalty has been abolished quite recently (South Africa, El Salvador, Colombia, Cambodia.etc). In all these countries, the crime rate is going up.

[Nemo1024]

Russian Federation has a moratorium on death penalty.
I oppose this form of "punishment" on principal. It's final, the risk of judicial murder is too high, and witness accounts are notoriously unreliable. Life sentence without parole is a far better option. At least, there is a chance to partially rectify a judicial error.

[BADecker]

Death Penalty for Child Molester and Rapist  and drug pushers. theres no place for them in the society but in hell  

Death penalty for government people, because they are not informing their citizens about the dangers of child molesting, raping, and pushing drugs.

Let the people be free. Inform them with strong warnings. Then let them be free. Then execute them when they harm someone... but never for doing an act that harms no one.

Government's acts of not using the death penalty where it is deserved, and sometimes using it where it is not deserved, is a crime that should be punished by death.

[European Central Bank]

No. There are way too many innocent people in jail. Even if one of them is put to death it's too much. I think more people should be blown away on the spot if they're caught red handed.

[Balthazar]

European Central Bank
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[European Central Bank]

European Central Bank
Hi there! How your quantitative easing is going? 

Hey. This is my night off. Ask me again in the morning. Your cash will be safe until then unless I get a few more drinks down.

[salinizm]

People all over the world are taking other peoples lives so they should be punished and have to go through the trauma their victims did! Why do people think it's acceptable to murder someone? I only think the death penalty should be brought on the worst crimes such as murder.If a man has taken the life of another man then he deserves death.

I dont think someone who committed violent crimes need to be executed . if an evil person commits crimes such as rape , murder etc.., they should be put in prison till the end of their life. because in my opinion death penalty is a salvation for such psychopats. they must be kept in a cell for years alone. maybe, they can be out of their mind and suffers more than death penalty.

[icaruz]

I do support the capital punishment to secure the community form murders. Because if someone knows he will be killed if he murders an innocent people, he will fear the sentence that will happen to hem

i agree with you.i support death penalty.because here in the philippines many women where being rape and killed,some of them were children ages 3 to 9 years old.
some innocent children girls were being rape by thier own father.
i want those rapist to be in death penalty

[daarul50]

No. There are way too many innocent people in jail. Even if one of them is put to death it's too much. I think more people should be blown away on the spot if they're caught red handed.

if they are not guilty they will not exist in prison, man-made laws are not sure.
but the death penalty is very feasible for a person who violates certain rules

[Gronthaing]

Totally support. Governments wouldn't need to spend money anymore on such people like murderers, terrorists, drug dealers, etc.

Like we said before killing people is more expensive. If cost is all you care about you would be against the death penalty. Unless you don't care about killing some that may be innocent. In that case you can remove the chance to appeal and maybe then would become cheaper to kill people. But more innocents would die.

How can it be more expensive? That's just one fucking shot. Sure there can be innocent people but first of all you need to understand that  statically 0.001% or so means absolutely nothing. You should also realize that life in prison could be much worse than death especially like in a Russian prison. Personally if I commit a high crime one day I'd rather wish to be sentenced to death than life in prison (this weight would be way-too heavy for me).

0.001%? It's much higher. Though it depends on the country. And how the justice system works there. But a recent study found that more than 4% of people sentenced to death in america were innocent: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/28/death-penalty-study-4-percent-defendants-innocent And more than 1 person in 3 was taken out of death row in the three decades they studied. Because there were doubts they got the right person. If you shoot them when they are first convicted it will be cheaper. They can't appeal and try to defend themselves anymore so it will be quick. But more innocents will die. And yes some prison systems are very bad. Some are used for slave labor. Or tortured. Murdered. Etc. I believe prisoners should be treated well. Sometimes people change.

[BADecker]

Totally support. Governments wouldn't need to spend money anymore on such people like murderers, terrorists, drug dealers, etc.

Like we said before killing people is more expensive. If cost is all you care about you would be against the death penalty. Unless you don't care about killing some that may be innocent. In that case you can remove the chance to appeal and maybe then would become cheaper to kill people. But more innocents would die.

How can it be more expensive? That's just one fucking shot. Sure there can be innocent people but first of all you need to understand that  statically 0.001% or so means absolutely nothing. You should also realize that life in prison could be much worse than death especially like in a Russian prison. Personally if I commit a high crime one day I'd rather wish to be sentenced to death than life in prison (this weight would be way-too heavy for me).

0.001%? It's much higher. Though it depends on the country. And how the justice system works there. But a recent study found that more than 4% of people sentenced to death in america were innocent: http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/apr/28/death-penalty-study-4-percent-defendants-innocent And more than 1 person in 3 was taken out of death row in the three decades they studied. Because there were doubts they got the right person. If you shoot them when they are first convicted it will be cheaper. They can't appeal and try to defend themselves anymore so it will be quick. But more innocents will die. And yes some prison systems are very bad. Some are used for slave labor. Or tortured. Murdered. Etc. I believe prisoners should be treated well. Sometimes people change.

The death penalty reduces world population. But to make it really effective, require the death penalty for everyone who causes an innocent person to be executed. And if some of these did it innocently, require the death penalty for their executioners, too, etc.

[Swordsoffreedom]

No, mainly because our country has not had it in my lifetime and Prison seems like a greater torture method than death endless time to be locked up and be confined to a small area.
That said I do think I would support a prison fight club like in a few movies if convicts really want to risk it all in a weird way.

[BADecker]

No, mainly because our country has not had it in my lifetime and Prison seems like a greater torture method than death endless time to be locked up and be confined to a small area.
That said I do think I would support a prison fight club like in a few movies if convicts really want to risk it all in a weird way.

Prisons are a method for transferring wealth to the prison community supporters. How? Through taxing the free people to pay for prisoner support. Most of the tax money goes to those who run the prisons and supply inmate care products and services. The inmates receive little, and in a good prison, receive way more than they need for living.

Make punishments to match the crime. If there is murder done by the guilty, punish him with death. If there is foul play when convicting him so that an innocent person is convicted and executed, execute those who did the foul play... etcetera... until all the guilty are executed.

Why must the people who were harmed by the criminals support them in prison? Citizens were harmed by the criminals once. Now they have to pay to support them for life? Very unfair idea.

[Swordsoffreedom]

No, mainly because our country has not had it in my lifetime and Prison seems like a greater torture method than death endless time to be locked up and be confined to a small area.
That said I do think I would support a prison fight club like in a few movies if convicts really want to risk it all in a weird way.

Prisons are a method for transferring wealth to the prison community supporters. How? Through taxing the free people to pay for prisoner support. Most of the tax money goes to those who run the prisons and supply inmate care products and services. The inmates receive little, and in a good prison, receive way more than they need for living.

Make punishments to match the crime. If there is murder done by the guilty, punish him with death. If there is foul play when convicting him so that an innocent person is convicted and executed, execute those who did the foul play... etcetera... until all the guilty are executed.

Why must the people who were harmed by the criminals support them in prison? Citizens were harmed by the criminals once. Now they have to pay to support them for life? Very unfair idea.

I'm more of a redemptive law sort of person than a punishment one although I'm not against having prisoners do some hard labor to contribute to society from those closed walls in my opinion, I still don't see why governments don't try to make all prisons self sufficient in the first place free labour that has no opportunity to get out of the prison system with all the time in the world, now that is made for milking and to those with a chance of parole due to good behaviour and serving their time a skillset would be useful if they get reintegrated instead of bouncing back into jail.

Good old workyards where they need to knit clothing, breaking rocks under strict supervision to sell gravel, making farm feed to sustain themselves and sell to the locals, raising chickens etc their is a lot of productivity to be had from this labour than sitting them in a bloody cell 23 hours of the day and making them mooch off the taxpayers dime.

We complain because the public system drains our incomes and takes it from tax revenue. Some people argue for privitization of prison and it's a damn good investment with people taking that route for profit but I feel that if government put in some decent labour regulations countries could have a new market for cheap goods and not need to outsource this stuff, bim bam boom problem addressed self-sufficient prisons serve us all following the maxim you do the crime you pay the time.

(Heck with all the exported labour now a-days a convict trying to sell you car insurance working at a call center seems just as good as outsourcing it to India lol)
http://www.canadianbusiness.com/blogs-and-comment/profiting-from-prison-labour/
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/aug/08/prisoners-call-centre-fired-staff

A business is bussing in inmates from an open prison 21 miles away and paying them only £3 a day to work in its call centre.

The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) confirmed that dozens of prisoners from Prescoed prison in Monmouthshire, south Wales, had done "work experience" for at least two months at a rate of 40p an hour in the private company's telephone sales division in Cardiff.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289

Profits are so good that now there is a new business: importing inmates with long sentences, meaning the worst criminals. When a federal judge ruled that overcrowding in Texas prisons was cruel and unusual punishment, the CCA signed contracts with sheriffs in poor counties to build and run new jails and share the profits. According to a December 1998 Atlantic Monthly magazine article, this program was backed by investors from Merrill-Lynch, Shearson-Lehman, American Express and Allstate, and the operation was scattered all over rural Texas. That state’s governor, Ann Richards, followed the example of Mario Cuomo in New York and built so many state prisons that the market became flooded, cutting into private prison profits.

After a law signed by Clinton in 1996 – ending court supervision and decisions – caused overcrowding and violent, unsafe conditions in federal prisons, private prison corporations in Texas began to contact other states whose prisons were overcrowded, offering “rent-a-cell” services in the CCA prisons located in small towns in Texas. The commission for a rent-a-cell salesman is $2.50 to $5.50 per day per bed. The county gets $1.50 for each prisoner.

http://www.ctvnews.ca/forced-prison-labour-carries-benefits-and-risks-expert-1.656049
Better to make em suffer doing labor he-he

[BADecker]

No, mainly because our country has not had it in my lifetime and Prison seems like a greater torture method than death endless time to be locked up and be confined to a small area.
That said I do think I would support a prison fight club like in a few movies if convicts really want to risk it all in a weird way.

Prisons are a method for transferring wealth to the prison community supporters. How? Through taxing the free people to pay for prisoner support. Most of the tax money goes to those who run the prisons and supply inmate care products and services. The inmates receive little, and in a good prison, receive way more than they need for living.

Make punishments to match the crime. If there is murder done by the guilty, punish him with death. If there is foul play when convicting him so that an innocent person is convicted and executed, execute those who did the foul play... etcetera... until all the guilty are executed.

Why must the people who were harmed by the criminals support them in prison? Citizens were harmed by the criminals once. Now they have to pay to support them for life? Very unfair idea.

I'm more of a redemptive law sort of person than a punishment one although I'm not against having prisoners do some hard labor to contribute to society from those closed walls in my opinion, I still don't see why governments don't try to make all prisons self sufficient in the first place cits free labour that has no opportunity to get out of the prison system that is made for milking and to those with a chance of parole due to good behaviour and serving their time some sort of skillset would be useful if they get reintegrated instead of bouncing back into it.

Good old workyards where they need to knit clothing, breaking rocks under strict supervision to sell gravel, making farm feed to sustain themselves and sell to the locals, raising chickens etc their is a lot of productivity to be had from this labour than sitting them in a bloody cell 23 hours of the day and making them mooch off the taxpayers dime.

We complain because the public system drains our incomes and takes it from tax revenue. Some people argue for privitization of prison and it's a damn good investment with people taking that route for profit but I feel that if government put in some decent labour regulations countries could have a new market for cheap goods and not need to outsource this stuff, bim bam boom problem addressed self-sufficient prisons serve us all following the maxim you do the crime you pay the time.

(Heck with all the exported labour now a-days a convict trying to sell you car insurance working at a call center seems just as good as outsourcing it to India lol)
http://www.canadianbusiness.com/blogs-and-comment/profiting-from-prison-labour/
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2012/aug/08/prisoners-call-centre-fired-staff

A business is bussing in inmates from an open prison 21 miles away and paying them only £3 a day to work in its call centre.

The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) confirmed that dozens of prisoners from Prescoed prison in Monmouthshire, south Wales, had done "work experience" for at least two months at a rate of 40p an hour in the private company's telephone sales division in Cardiff.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-prison-industry-in-the-united-states-big-business-or-a-new-form-of-slavery/8289

Profits are so good that now there is a new business: importing inmates with long sentences, meaning the worst criminals. When a federal judge ruled that overcrowding in Texas prisons was cruel and unusual punishment, the CCA signed contracts with sheriffs in poor counties to build and run new jails and share the profits. According to a December 1998 Atlantic Monthly magazine article, this program was backed by investors from Merrill-Lynch, Shearson-Lehman, American Express and Allstate, and the operation was scattered all over rural Texas. That state’s governor, Ann Richards, followed the example of Mario Cuomo in New York and built so many state prisons that the market became flooded, cutting into private prison profits.

After a law signed by Clinton in 1996 – ending court supervision and decisions – caused overcrowding and violent, unsafe conditions in federal prisons, private prison corporations in Texas began to contact other states whose prisons were overcrowded, offering “rent-a-cell” services in the CCA prisons located in small towns in Texas. The commission for a rent-a-cell salesman is $2.50 to $5.50 per day per bed. The county gets $1.50 for each prisoner.

Suppose some thieves come into your house to rob you. They don't know that you and your wife have guns and know how to use them. In the process of protecting your property, however, the thieves are not killed, but a couple of your kids are.

In punishing the thieves become murderers, can they ever work off the debt they owe you? Okay, let them work for a hundred years of hard labor supporting themselves and you until they make a dent in the debt. You'll never get your kids back, and if you are an honest and merciful person, you will not want these jokers paying off some debt to you forever.

The smart crooks get into government. And the things that they do there steal money form the people "legally" to support the prisons and make Gov people rich... or at least well to do.

The death penalty is simply a way of getting government crooks off your back at the same time that it keeps the more dimwitted crooks off your back at the same time that it brings about justice.

The fact that you may be merciful and not require the death penalty in your particular case is evidence that you have a wonderful soul. But for the peace of the nation, the government should not be like you. It should demand life for life, and even life for other criminal activities besides murder.

[flagpara]

Suppose some thieves come into your house to rob you. They don't know that you and your wife have guns and know how to use them. In the process of protecting your property, however, the thieves are not killed, but a couple of your kids are.

In punishing the thieves become murderers, can they ever work off the debt they owe you? Okay, let them work for a hundred years of hard labor supporting themselves and you until they make a dent in the debt. You'll never get your kids back, and if you are an honest and merciful person, you will not want these jokers paying off some debt to you forever.

The smart crooks get into government. And the things that they do there steal money form the people "legally" to support the prisons and make Gov people rich... or at least well to do.

The death penalty is simply a way of getting government crooks off your back at the same time that it keeps the more dimwitted crooks off your back at the same time that it brings about justice.

The fact that you may be merciful and not require the death penalty in your particular case is evidence that you have a wonderful soul. But for the peace of the nation, the government should not be like you. It should demand life for life, and even life for other criminal activities besides murder.

Yeah! Life for life!

It doesn't matter the social context or the responsibilities behind the crime itself! It doesn't matter that year after year we see that people condemned to death are in fact not guilty, but it's too late cause they're fucking dead...

So let's kill those criminals! And if in the end they're innocent well that's just a mistake and it happens no? 

[protokol]

I support the death penalty, not just for murders, but also for other crimes such as high treason, rape and home invasion. Death penalty is the only reliable deterrent to prevent the crimes. Look at the countries where death penalty has been abolished quite recently (South Africa, El Salvador, Colombia, Cambodia.etc). In all these countries, the crime rate is going up.

Then why do the American states with the death penalty have higher murder rates?

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/deterrence-states-without-death-penalty-have-had-consistently-lower-murder-rates



I'll tell you why I think it is. As I said earlier, murderers and rapists aren't planning on getting caught. If you're not planning to get caught, then what does it matter whether you get life in jail or death? This is especially true for murders that are not premeditated, crimes of passion for example. Another example would be drug dealing in countries which use the death penalty for it, like many countries in the Middle East and South East Asia. I think you'll find that places like Thailand/Indonesia/Afghanistan have pretty bad drug problems.

Also death penalty for home invasion is a stupid idea, what if someone gets drunk and accidentally walks into the wrong house. They would have a chance of being executed for a silly mistake, bit harsh no?

Plus you've got no evidence for causality in your point about countries that have abolished the death penalty - the crime rate could be going up for any reason whatsoever, eg. population change/economic change/immigration of different cultures/government policy/change in weather. The list is pretty much endless. Try harder.

[sesiah]

I oppose, I think dealth is punishment