Optiona is allways good. 16nm ASIC, 100w/THS 0.1J/GH on wall. MAX: 31THS/miner!!

[Pkzone]

I believe this is not a scam, but I guess it will be awesome if it offers 10 TH at 2000 USD
I am waiting for a official partnership announcement of BitFury

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[RoadStress]

I'm willing to carefully and thoroughly review a unit.

And unlike the Spamdoolie toadies (ie RoadStress) I won't open an unnecessary new thread for it, just to crowd out competitor posts.

Any proof for your statement or it's business as usual a.k.a. speaking out of your lying ass?

[iCEBREAKER]

I'm willing to carefully and thoroughly review a unit.

And unlike the Spamdoolie toadies (ie RoadStress) I won't open an unnecessary new thread for it, just to crowd out competitor posts.

Any proof for your statement or it's business as usual a.k.a. speaking out of your lying ass?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=898999.0

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=938782.0

Apology accepted.   

[toptek]

http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/

two problems i see so far no real miner is posted on there site yet, just a computer generated picture. and in two months time bitmain may have a better one on the market at a cheaper price or lower there's enough were you can get three for 2k other wise prove me wrong, send off a few now for reviews because i some how got a feeling they will be selling used miners for 2k if  there not scamming now . while bitmain does send off new not used and does let us know if they are used at least all my S5 i bought, looked new , felt new etc that i bought as new. .

and this is a pre order not a per sell imo . to me a pre order means you are paying for something that doesn't exist yet and you are taking a big risk and pre sell means it does exist and is really to be shipped in days not months. Like bitmain does .

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

I agree fully rich

Side hack does give a step by step with real picture of the real miner as he makes it and does Per-sales not per-orders  . which we all like and does come thu for the home miner, which is no real threat at all to any of the big guys, it is just pure greed at this point .I don't believe bitfury at all , till i see it and do they really mean it  or are they blowing smoke out there ass for attention to help pay for the dev they did and have no real intention what so ever of selling anything to the public they just need to recover the money it took to make the chip if it even exists. .

[mavericklm]

no pre-order at this moment!

In Stock: 0 Piece

[asiabtc]

no pre-order at this moment!

In Stock: 0 Piece

we will open pre-order very soon.

[asiabtc]

http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/

two problems i see so far no real miner is posted on there site yet, just a computer generated picture. and in two months time bitmain may have a better one on the market at a cheaper price or lower there's enough were you can get three for 2k other wise prove me wrong, send off a few now for reviews because i some how got a feeling they will be selling used miners for 2k if  there not scamming now . while bitmain does send off new not used and does let us know if they are used at least all my S5 i bought, looked new , felt new etc that i bought as new. .

and this is a pre order not a per sell imo . to me a pre order means you are paying for something that doesn't exist yet and you are taking a big risk and pre sell means it does exist and is really to be shipped in days not months. Like bitmain does .

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

I agree fully rich

Side hack does give a step by step with real picture of the real miner as he makes it and does Per-sales not per-orders  . which we all like and does come thu for the home miner, which is no real threat at all to any of the big guys, it is just pure greed at this point .I don't believe bitfury at all , till i see it and do they really mean it  or are they blowing smoke out there ass for attention to help pay for the dev they did and have no real intention what so ever of selling anything to the public they just need to recover the money it took to make the chip if it even exists. .

the other supplier miner price may be dropped to competive with us. but new asic is not like one piece of cake. so, in next coming 6 months, only this aisc can do  100W/THS .

[toptek]

http://www.lightningasic.com/Product/ProductInfo.aspx?PId=17

Well it's up on the site now.
2k solid :/

two problems i see so far no real miner is posted on there site yet, just a computer generated picture. and in two months time bitmain may have a better one on the market at a cheaper price or lower there's enough were you can get three for 2k other wise prove me wrong, send off a few now for reviews because i some how got a feeling they will be selling used miners for 2k if  there not scamming now . while bitmain does send off new not used and does let us know if they are used at least all my S5 i bought, looked new , felt new etc that i bought as new. .

and this is a pre order not a per sell imo . to me a pre order means you are paying for something that doesn't exist yet and you are taking a big risk and pre sell means it does exist and is really to be shipped in days not months. Like bitmain does .

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

I agree fully rich

Side hack does give a step by step with real picture of the real miner as he makes it and does Per-sales not per-orders  . which we all like and does come thu for the home miner, which is no real threat at all to any of the big guys, it is just pure greed at this point .I don't believe bitfury at all , till i see it and do they really mean it  or are they blowing smoke out there ass for attention to help pay for the dev they did and have no real intention what so ever of selling anything to the public they just need to recover the money it took to make the chip if it even exists. .

the other supplier miner price may be dropped to competive with us. but new asic is not like one piece of cake. so, in next coming 6 months, only this aisc can do  100W/THS .

That's BS or prove me wrong !!! ..  simple put unless you have spy's  inside bitmian you have no idea what they are up to .

cya i gonna watch this thread but at this point seeing is believing . .

[asiabtc]

I'm not calling it a scam either. I'm criticizing the innards render. I guess it works if they want people to only know the location of fans and heatsinks inside the case, but there isn't really much of it that makes sense. Even the screw holes on the outside housing don't make a lot of sense yet. I'll let everyone else argue about the price and viability and trustworthiness of the poster and whatever.

it's CAD models. used just to show the formfactor of the device.

[asiabtc]

The render looks pretty sweet if you know nothing about electronics. Those boards don't make a bit of sense.

I doubt both the chip size and count. Likely the new Bitfury ASIC will be in the 10mm square package or smaller (based on per-chip power dissipation estimates). To get 10TH at 0.09J/GH (assumptions: 90% PSU, string design) gets you about 80GH per chip so 125 chips required.  With two boards (if the renders are anything like the final design) you'd need something divisible by two for node width. Two 21x3 strings gets you 0.57V at 126 ASICs and makes for one heck of a dense board if the estimated render dimensions are anything close to actual. Avalon 6 puts 36 ASICs to a board; S7 puts 54; this guy would have 63. Bitfury string designs in the past were fairly sparse, but they were also pulling about 3W per chip instead of 9 so I'd be surprised if the same kind of designs would be as stable under the new chip.

the key is not how many asic on one board.the key is the chipset efficiency. the power is same.500w/board , max 600W.
S7, old version  s7, 162pcs asic, 54asic/board, new version, 135pcs asic, 45asic/pcs. 1165W on wall, 8.6W/asic,
A6, 80pcs asic, 40pcs asic/board, 1100W, 13.75W/asic.
the 16nm ASIC,100pcs aisc, 50asic/board, 1000w, 10W/asic.
our design must work well.

[kilo17]

I know this is a novel idea, how bout posting something, anything.  It could be a contract with you and Bitfury, a PO, a letter from Bitfury etc.  

Right now I see a thread that looks like another thread on here for Yesminers - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1126303.0

I hope I am wrong but doubtful

[asiabtc]

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

yes. we just announce the news. and pre-order still not start yet.

[adaseb]

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

yes. we just announce the news. and pre-order still not start yet.

So you will start building this miner from scratch as soon as you get the chips from Bitfury ?

[asiabtc]

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

yes. we just announce the news. and pre-order still not start yet.

So you will start building this miner from scratch as soon as you get the chips from Bitfury ?

yes.

[toptek]

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

yes. we just announce the news. and pre-order still not start yet.

So you will start building this miner from scratch as soon as you get the chips from Bitfury ?

yes.

dude tip  don't do per-orders, I would do per-sells if you care enough, wait till you have it in hand then sell it or take orders then, because if you need cash to buy the chips etc  that can lead to  bad things down the  road ands usually does , by taking per-orders that tells me you either need the cash to buy the chips or you plan to steal it which I hope is not your motive and so much can happen, in two months that can lead to bad or good things . and i have seen good intentions go to the way side because of time . if you noticed i have not once called this a scam, i did say if it's not, that doesn't mean the same thing with me .


cya

[sidehack]

You won't get much money (or goodwill) out of anyone on this forum if you open sales before at least having a demonstrable prototype.

10W wall at 100GH per ASIC doesn't quite line up with what (scant) information we've gotten from Bitfury releases about the new chip, but at least it's in the right ballpark. You say you'll start building miners as soon as chips are available; does this mean you already have a design well underway? Or are you just announcing your intention to start designing a machine in the near future?

[kilo17]

Not sure if this will help but thought I would give it a shot.

[valkir]

Not sure if this will help but thought I would give it a shot.

Great Idea Kilo17 

[RichBC]

These threads are just so annoying, you want it to be real, but everything about it does not add up. You just know that if this was your product, even at an early stage, the way you would present it and then follow up and answer questions would add information and credibility.

So it begs the question, given that unusually this is not a pre-sale, why do it?  OP what is the answer?


Rich

yes. we just announce the news. and pre-order still not start yet.

So you will start building this miner from scratch as soon as you get the chips from Bitfury ?

yes.

So at this point in time this is just an idea. You have taken the Bitfury spec, done a small amount of maths, nocked up a graphic that bears no relationship to the final product and started a thread?

To be honest... it would be better without any graphics or website sales item.  If it were my product I would be saying nothing until I had chips from Bitfury and had the first prototype working, at that point you have something credible that you can measure, take pictures of and share.

I hope that this and many other designs based on the Bitfury 16nm ASIC are brought to market, but please spare us from announcements that any of us could put together in a Tea Break.


Rich

[RoadStress]

Not sure if this will help but thought I would give it a shot.

Why not give it a shot over here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=250249.0 ?