Antminer S7+ somewho knows anything?

[carlosmnk]

Hi, I was reading some time ago about Bitmain was thinking to release latelly this month a new version of the s7, called s7+, but i saw that the s7 changed the design from 162 chips to 135 chips with a voltage regulator (i think).
What do you think? The S7+ is the actual S7 new design or they will release something better? Is that why they lowered the S7's price at the B9?

PS: I love speculate 

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[VirosaGITS]

Hi, I was reading some time ago about Bitmain was thinking to release latelly this month a new version of the s7, called s7+, but i saw that the s7 changed the design from 162 chips to 135 chips with a voltage regulator (i think).
What do you think? The S7+ is the actual S7 new design or they will release something better? Is that why they lowered the S7's price at the B9?

PS: I love speculate 

Dunno, you read about a S7+ where? I would not be surprised if they released a monster, but i'm warry of Bitmain right now, considering we're seeing several problems with the S7, like issues that we had with the S5. (Stuff burning down when internet connection is lost)

[notlist3d]

Hi, I was reading some time ago about Bitmain was thinking to release latelly this month a new version of the s7, called s7+, but i saw that the s7 changed the design from 162 chips to 135 chips with a voltage regulator (i think).
What do you think? The S7+ is the actual S7 new design or they will release something better? Is that why they lowered the S7's price at the B9?

PS: I love speculate 

Dunno, you read about a S7+ where? I would not be surprised if they released a monster, but i'm warry of Bitmain right now, considering we're seeing several problems with the S7, like issues that we had with the S5. (Stuff burning down when internet connection is lost)

There has been nothing official that I have seen as far as a S7+.   Only thing I have seen is people talk about it as speculation.... but that does not mean anything.  The S5+ is a great miner they used it to get rid of chips quick and it did that very good.

So if Bitmain want's to release a next gen ... it's possible we might see a S7+.  But I'm not for sure on it really.  I think it's easier to just sell S7's then making a new product.

[Amph]

well i'm assuming that their tradition is to make a "+" version for each of their miners, so s7 will not be excluded, we only need to wait at this point

[WENGER]

I doubt it would be coming this month but knowing on how they've done with the previous generations then there would certainly be a + version of S7 and that might also explain the the new price of S7 on the website but regarding if the latest S7 is the new S7+ then I have to say most likely not on this matter and a new one would be presented some time soon.

[yslyung]

assuming they use 162 chip version * 6 boards  (good chips batch) with little oc/uc, you will still need at least 2500W psu to power the miner for roughly 10th/s.

my guess will be NO S7+

sales will cont for S7 till they're sold out.

Most likely S9 with newer gen chips but again it's gonna be pricey.

my guess, we "should" see something AFTER lunar new year (in feb) somewhere around late march early april.

[QuintLeo]

The S5+ was the first and so far ONLY " + " model out of Bitmain.

 It is SPECULATED that they might release a S7+ model (the controller board supports enough boards) but nothing official has ever been mentioned.

 I suspect that 28nm is going to become obsolete before Bitmain gets around to releasing an S7+ model, as they seem to be selling as many regular S7 models as they can make currently.

[VirosaGITS]

The S5+ was the first and so far ONLY " + " model out of Bitmain.

 It is SPECULATED that they might release a S7+ model (the controller board supports enough boards) but nothing official has ever been mentioned.

 I suspect that 28nm is going to become obsolete before Bitmain gets around to releasing an S7+ model, as they seem to be selling as many regular S7 models as they can make currently.

The S4+ doesnt count? Or S3++?

It seem a bit early for a S7+ But i don't know how much good it would do anyways. The BM1385 is already getting outclassed, Bitmain is not keeping up with the super efficient private mines.

[adaseb]

Doesn't it take at least 6-9 months to manufacteur a new chip? Most likely no new technology from them at least until the Summer.

[crazyivan]

I also dont think we ll see any major chip upgrade before halving or just before it. Cause it the price starts going up, lots us new chips re gonna emerge again. If not, there s no funding for development.

[RichBC]

I think the S5+ was just a way of getting rid of a lot of BM1384 chips shortly before the S7 was released. So you could speculate that if we see an S7+ then a BM1386 Based S9 is about to be released? As to when this will happen I suspect Bitmain has it under control and will be ready with the next Miner when the Market / Network demands it?

They will in the mean time continue to ship as many S7 as they can, particularly while they have the best value Miner on the market, made easier by Bitfury not being there yet with their 14nm chip and who knows how many Spondoolies SP50 have been deployed?


Rich

[QuintLeo]

Doesn't it take at least 6-9 months to manufacteur a new chip? Most likely no new technology from them at least until the Summer.

 Longer of late, but why are you ASSUMING they didn't start working on 14/16nm quite a few months back?


 S3+ and S4+ were totally different concepts from the S5+, they don't really count the same way - though I had forgotten about them, and they are + designated models, just not the S5+ type like the S7+ speculation was talking about.


 I will NOT be supprised if there is an S9 model released before the halfing, in response to releases or announced releases from other manufacturer(s).

[carlosmnk]

Doesn't it take at least 6-9 months to manufacteur a new chip? Most likely no new technology from them at least until the Summer.

 Longer of late, but why are you ASSUMING they didn't start working on 14/16nm quite a few months back?


 S3+ and S4+ were totally different concepts from the S5+, they don't really count the same way - though I had forgotten about them, and they are + designated models, just not the S5+ type like the S7+ speculation was talking about.


 I will NOT be supprised if there is an S9 model released before the halfing, in response to releases or announced releases from other manufacturer(s).

Yes, i was thinking about an S7+, same chip, but more efficient design, like the S4+ (perphaps 0.20 J/Gh?), not like the S5+ -they have the option to make an S8 instead-
And i think they are developing the 14/16nm chip since last months, too, so i think they will release an S9 in 3/4 months, but who knows...  

[fr4nkthetank]

I'm guessing an s7+ would be a 3xs7 in one.  The plugs are already there I think for the controller.  So 4000watts almost and 15ths. 

[yslyung]

amazing, 6 fans ? 3 or 4 psu to power 1 miner ?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

GL to those who do not have 220/240V

mobile bbq machine, hot air blower

[notlist3d]

amazing, 6 fans ? 3 or 4 psu to power 1 miner ?

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

GL to those who do not have 220/240V

mobile bbq machine, hot air blower

It would take 220/240 for pretty much everyone if they do a S7+.   It will no doubt will be a lot of watts if they use it.  To run so many 110/120 vs 220/240 wires would not make much sense.

With winter it is not that hard for most on cooling.   In my mining area I have turned down all the fan's.  But it would not be a issue if they put one out for me.  Biggest thing that would matter to me is price.

[carlosmnk]

I'm smelling something new from bitmain next week... Maybe a new Batch, or maybe a new miner version, or something else... 

[QuintLeo]

They already announced delivery date of around 30 January for their next batch - and FINALLY dropped the price some, though not enough to matter.

[notlist3d]

I'm smelling something new from bitmain next week... Maybe a new Batch, or maybe a new miner version, or something else... 

Most likely I think it will be a new batch as were so close to batch 9 being here.  So it is almost certain that will happen.  Possibly a little pricedrop will come with it.

But I think a little longer before we see next gen stuff.  I could be wrong I just think current gen at lower price is most likely. And that is pure speculation I have no good solid info on that.

[Lutzow]

I'm smelling something new from bitmain next week... Maybe a new Batch, or maybe a new miner version, or something else... 

Most likely I think it will be a new batch as were so close to batch 9 being here.  So it is almost certain that will happen.  Possibly a little pricedrop will come with it.

But I think a little longer before we see next gen stuff.  I could be wrong I just think current gen at lower price is most likely. And that is pure speculation I have no good solid info on that.

There so much speculation nowadays surrounding mining due to the upcoming halving so bitcoin price COULD rise as it becomes rarer but of course your mined coins will be cut in half as well. To maintain current ROI levels, the bitcoin price should at least double its prices when the halving happens or else you could be in a loss. But who knows, we can only speculate at the moment.

[carlosmnk]

I'm smelling something new from bitmain next week... Maybe a new Batch, or maybe a new miner version, or something else... 

Most likely I think it will be a new batch as were so close to batch 9 being here.  So it is almost certain that will happen.  Possibly a little pricedrop will come with it.

But I think a little longer before we see next gen stuff.  I could be wrong I just think current gen at lower price is most likely. And that is pure speculation I have no good solid info on that.

There so much speculation nowadays surrounding mining due to the upcoming halving so bitcoin price COULD rise as it becomes rarer but of course your mined coins will be cut in half as well. To maintain current ROI levels, the bitcoin price should at least double its prices when the halving happens or else you could be in a loss. But who knows, we can only speculate at the moment.

the mined coins will NOT be cut in half, only next rewards... 

[notlist3d]

I'm smelling something new from bitmain next week... Maybe a new Batch, or maybe a new miner version, or something else... 

Most likely I think it will be a new batch as were so close to batch 9 being here.  So it is almost certain that will happen.  Possibly a little pricedrop will come with it.

But I think a little longer before we see next gen stuff.  I could be wrong I just think current gen at lower price is most likely. And that is pure speculation I have no good solid info on that.

There so much speculation nowadays surrounding mining due to the upcoming halving so bitcoin price COULD rise as it becomes rarer but of course your mined coins will be cut in half as well. To maintain current ROI levels, the bitcoin price should at least double its prices when the halving happens or else you could be in a loss. But who knows, we can only speculate at the moment.

the mined coins will NOT be cut in half, only next rewards... 

And we talk about rise but look at what it's doing now.  Were around 400 on BTC.... so we took a big drop from 440's of weeks ago.   Not fun to see.

No one really knows value though at having.  Just to many unknowns.   I am not sure how it will turn out then.

[Lutzow]

I'm smelling something new from bitmain next week... Maybe a new Batch, or maybe a new miner version, or something else... 

Most likely I think it will be a new batch as were so close to batch 9 being here.  So it is almost certain that will happen.  Possibly a little pricedrop will come with it.

But I think a little longer before we see next gen stuff.  I could be wrong I just think current gen at lower price is most likely. And that is pure speculation I have no good solid info on that.

There so much speculation nowadays surrounding mining due to the upcoming halving so bitcoin price COULD rise as it becomes rarer but of course your mined coins will be cut in half as well. To maintain current ROI levels, the bitcoin price should at least double its prices when the halving happens or else you could be in a loss. But who knows, we can only speculate at the moment.

the mined coins will NOT be cut in half, only next rewards... 

And we talk about rise but look at what it's doing now.  Were around 400 on BTC.... so we took a big drop from 440's of weeks ago.   Not fun to see.

No one really knows value though at having.  Just to many unknowns.   I am not sure how it will turn out then.

Yes too many unknows, halving is close but still bitcoin is nowhere near $500 but we'll never know. It looks like the bitcoin price will be in a roller coaster ride for this year.

[broken_pixel]

I just ordered the last S9 one. 

http://ugeekstore.com/product/antminer-s7-newest-batch-91

[RichBC]

I just ordered the last S9 one. 

http://ugeekstore.com/product/antminer-s7-newest-batch-91

Well that's a nice collection of miners that don't exist. 

Rich

[Raimonn]

I just ordered the last S9 one. 

http://ugeekstore.com/product/antminer-s7-newest-batch-91

Wait for specifications no one knows anything about it, on bitmain forum they confirmed that will share soon all the information, specifications, price, availability.