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January 18, 2016, 10:45:05 PM
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Monero have a great community and lots of supporters?
l have a filing it could be a winner!
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January 19, 2016, 10:42:20 AM
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I'm currently working on a semi-automated characterisation of coin features. As “anon” is programmatically challenging and the characterisation is significant in the domain, a bit of hand-stitching is tolerable. Here's what I have thus far ...

name_symbol_as_bctlink, blockchain_state, incept_YYYY-M, “anon”_features.
Acecoin (ACE)foundered2014-07tor
Aeon (AEON)listed2014-06cryptonote
Anoncoin (ANC)listed2013-06i2p, tor
ASAPcoin (ASAP)foundered2014-07cryptonote
Bata (BTA)listed2015-05i2p, tor
BitBlockcoin (BBL)foundered2014-06dark
Boolberry (BBR)listed2014-04cryptonote
Bytecoin (BCN)listed2014-03cryptonote
Masoncoin (BROS)unlaunched2014-08coinjoin
BitsharesX (BTSX)listed2014-02confidential tx, stealth addresses
Burnercoin2 (BURN)foundered2014-07tor
ECash (CASH)foundered2015-02dark
Cloak (CLOAK)listed2014-05cloak
CannabisDarkcoin (CND)foundered2014-04secure messaging
Concealcoin (CNL)listed2014-07bursttx
CryptoNotecoin (CNN)unlaunched2014-07cryptonote
Crypto (CTO)listed2015-04stealth addresses
Darkcoin (DARK)listed2015-03dark
DarkScrypt (DASC)unlaunched2015-04dark
Dash (DASH)listed2014-01dash
DarkBit (DB)foundered2015-05secure messaging
DarkCrave (DCC)foundered2015-05secure messaging
DarkCypher (DCYP)listed2015-10secure messaging, anon chat, stealth addresses, char[24]
Darknetmarketcoin (DNM)foundered2014-07cloak
DarkNetCoin (DNC)listed2014-10cryptonote
DogeCoinDark (DOGED)listed2014-10i2p, tor
Darkpay (DRKPY)unlaunched2015-05teleport
Droidz (DRZ)listed2015-04dark
DarkShibe (DSB)listed2014-10stealth messaging
Dashcoin (DSH)listed2014-07cryptonote
DarkCash (DSK)foundered2015-10dark, shadowchat
Ethancoin (ETHAN)foundered2014-07dark
Fantomcoin (FCN)listed2014-05cryptonote
Fibrecoin (FIBRE)listed2014-08tor, dark
Flaxcoin (FLAX)listed2015-06dark
Fusecoin (FUSE)foundered2014-07mixer
HansaCoin (HANSA)foundered2015-01stealth addresses, stealth messaging
ICash (ICASH)listed2015-03dark
Infinium-8coin (INF8)foundered2014-07cryptonote
Joincoin (J)listed2014-08tor
Jadecoin (JADE)foundered2014-08tor
LittleDarkcoin (LTD)unlaunched2014-10dark
Mammothcoin (MAMM)foundered2014-06super
MultiCoin (MC)defunct2014-07multisig
MillenniumCoin (MIL)listed2015-03delegate
Moneta (MONET)listed2015-10zerocoin
MountCoin (MNT)defunct2014-06cryptonote
Navajocoin (NAV)listed2014-07delegate
NTXcoin (NTX)listed2014-05nxt
NextCoin (NXT)listed2013-11nxt
RobotSexNickelscoin (RSN)defunct2014-07tor
Redwire (RW)defunct2014-07tor, nite
Razor (RZR)listed2014-06tor
ShadowCash (SDC)listed2014-07shadow
QuietCoin (SHH)foundered2014-08cloak
Singularity (SING)foundered2014-06tor
Sling (SLING)listed2015-04dark
Soundbit (SND)inactive2014-07dark
Solecoin (SOLE)listed2014-08aim
SonicScrewdrivercoin (SSD)listed2014-08tor, stealth messaging, vortex
Supercoin (SUPER)listed2014-05super
FedoraCoin (TIPS)listed2013-12mixer
Tomatocoin (TMT)foundered2014-06dark
Transfercoin (TX)listed2015-08tor, dark
Venturecoin (VENT)foundered2014-07tor
Vanillacoin (VNL)listed2014-12secured protocol
Vertcoin (VTC)listed2013-01stealth addresses
Anonymouscoin (XAC)foundered2014-05aim
BitMocoin (XBM)foundered2014-08stealth, mixer
Counterparty (XCP)listed2014-02counterparty
duckNote (XDN)listed2014-05cryptonote
Monero (XMR)listed2014-04cryptonote
Stealthcoin (XST)listed2014-07tor, stealthsend, stealthtext
Zerovert (ZER)foundered2014-11zerocoin

Cheers

Graham

Cool list. I think it could be perfect, if we had a topic to compare features and how they are used in alt-coins

Yes that is a great suggestion and maybe to put each one to the test?

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January 19, 2016, 11:03:30 AM
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Yes cross testing and reviewing will be something extra!
But that needs someone with more experience..
So if anyone has idea or want to take lead ?
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Last edit: January 21, 2016, 06:43:11 PM by gjhiggins
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I'm currently working on a semi-automated characterisation of coin features.
Cool list. I think it could be perfect, if we had a topic to compare features and how they are used in alt-coins

Something like this?: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=675821.msg13484427#msg13484427

(and the three following posts)

Here's the current feature set, including the “anon” features, rendered in N3. The next step is to hack up some code to inspect and report on repository content and ultimately derive a feature set from the data, mostly satisfying BitcoinNational's requirement.

Code:
@prefix dc: <http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/> .
@prefix doacc: <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc#> .
@prefix rdfs: <http://www.w3.org/2000/01/rdf-schema#> .
@prefix skos: <http://www.w3.org/2004/02/skos/core#> .
@prefix foaf: <http://daml.umbc.edu/ontologies/cobra/0.4/foaf/> .
@prefix owl: <http://www.w3.org/2002/07/owl#> .

doacc:Dcbd6cd89-dd4b-4350-9827-2a7c6a073df9 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Zerocoin was initially proposed as an extension to add true cryptographic anonymity ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "zerocoin"@en .

doacc:D524d6200-09b3-4607-a47b-e02a8e72db85 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Anonymous facility"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "anon"@en .

doacc:D38b9e224-7490-4424-8182-74ec5dd76fa5 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Encrypted messaging"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "encrypted messaging"@en .

doacc:Ddfe4de7a-d688-4ca5-8743-4c03f2861b16 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Encrypted chat"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "encrypted chat"@en .

doacc:Dfe415608-22ec-4abb-8453-179b83ae51bc a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Tor is free software and an open network that helps you defend against traffic analysis..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    owl:sameAs <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Tor> ;
    skos:prefLabel "tor"@en .

doacc:Ddcdd9f05-b977-4911-8c4e-f0d0049aa462 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "I2P is an anonymous network, exposing a simple layer that applications can use to anonymously..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    owl:sameAs <http://dbpedia.org/resource/I2P> ;
    skos:prefLabel "i2p"@en .

doacc:D490f13de-0400-47dd-8e6a-d39cff3d4ddb a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Anonymous chat"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "anon chat"@en .

doacc:D8350d907-10c6-4f36-835c-5af6147ce1b7 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Stealth addresses"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "stealth addresses"@en .

doacc:D8350d907-10c6-4f36-835c-5af6147ce1b7 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Multi-platform anonymous cryptographic SMS transaction sending technology..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "stealthtext"@en .

doacc:D8350d907-10c6-4f36-835c-5af6147ce1b7 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Cryptograhic blockchain analysis resistance and obfuscation technology on the..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "stealthsend"@en .

doacc:Dbb59764d-fc10-4407-a11c-80f6156dee34 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Blockchain inscription, 24-character limit"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "char[24]"@en .

doacc:D00a7c073-3ccf-403b-bcdb-e0c3887b32e8 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses Cloak implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "cloak"@en .

doacc:D89b123e6-e8a7-49b0-b760-a1b1f0de74d4 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Aspiring to anonymous faeatures"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "aim"@en .

doacc:D428b68ae-3b9b-419f-a71f-902ef78a2cc5 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "The CoinJoin-inspired dark* performs mixing with selected “masternodes” ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "dark"@en .

doacc:Dcfd6eb63-0bb6-4725-b727-83347f6817cb a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses CryptoNote protocol"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    owl:sameAs <http://dbpedia.org/resource/CryptoNote> ;
    skos:prefLabel "cryptonote"@en .

doacc:Ddfa006a5-3143-414f-bc76-6ff67b7583ac a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "TCP network connections are secured using the Elliptic Curve Cryptography (ECC) ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "secured protocol"@en .

doacc:Dc638bc03-b495-48cb-9171-e7fb034d802c a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "SuperSend Trustless is an advanced p2p completely decentralized anonymous system..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "super"@en .

doacc:Dc638bc03-b495-48cb-9171-e7fb034d802c a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Cryptonite"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "nite"@en .

doacc:Da3efdd95-7c34-4dba-b3f4-4446849d058d a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Teleport is a set of blockchain technologies built on top of Bitcoin Dark (BTCD), ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "teleport"@en .

doacc:Dbb26104b-12fc-4a53-82f1-d94d8c4b8d51 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "CoinJoin is an anonymization method for bitcoin transactions proposed by Gregory Maxwell..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    foaf:page <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoinJoin> ;
    skos:prefLabel "coinjoin"@en .

doacc:D6e937391-180e-4a30-b1aa-f54fbc102e65 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Burst transaction is a built-in algorithm that allows the user to divide a transaction ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    foaf:page <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CoinJoin> ;
    skos:prefLabel "bursttx"@en .

doacc:D9f29ed28-1353-468b-af7a-fe2b70f208c3 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "A multi-signature address is an address that is associated with more than one ECDSA ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    foaf:page <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multisignature> ;
    skos:prefLabel "multisig"@en .

doacc:D7f4471a2-9f19-4b3a-b584-35c3cc62f5f6 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Zero-Knowledge Proof: In cryptography, a zero-knowledge proof or zero-knowledge protocol ..."@en ;
    rdfs:comment "Zero-Knowledge Proof is a very new, very speculative field with few if any academic research ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    owl:sameAs <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Zero-knowledge_proof> ;
    skos:prefLabel "zkp"@en .

doacc:D6893e506-b166-4d9d-b28e-fa205a60fc0e a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "In cryptography, a ring signature is a type of digital signature that can be performed by any ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    owl:sameAs <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Ring_signature> ;
    skos:prefLabel "ring signature"@en .

doacc:D6ad4f544-b664-41fb-befa-20a1edfc3ec2 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "SonicVortex V2.0 is a way to hide encrypted transactions by steganography. You take a picture, ..."@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "vortex"@en .

doacc:D2d587f6d-d082-419c-b680-6c53a354e396 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Confidential transactions are a feature of the Elements experimental client"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "confidential tx"@en .

doacc:D5210d1ba-e7ea-4c86-b67b-e4eefb7858d9 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses Counterparty implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "counterparty"@en .

doacc:Dac65a7cb-5937-458b-9ce1-921ec2616f8e a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses Dash implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "dash"@en .

doacc:Db21b3cfc-e7e1-41bc-961e-15ba0832da9f a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Anonymised transactions via sending through a delegate mixer"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "delegate"@en .

doacc:Dd25e8125-d697-4215-8df2-32a3fea8249d a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Transactions anonymised via sending through a mixer"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "mixer"@en .

doacc:D70c14962-85f9-489d-ae8b-621d3a3785d4 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Multiple signatures"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "multisig"@en .

doacc:D960aec4c-e103-46ea-9d53-81a2e3d3c2ac a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses NXT implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "nxt"@en .

doacc:D09ed8154-2708-4c8a-b347-4b9b15df117a a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Secure messaging"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "secure messaging"@en .

doacc:Dd707fd92-3224-4b45-9b2e-1df0ce9a74bb a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Uses Shadow implementation"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "shadow"@en .

doacc:D10cb5f38-ea01-4116-937c-af5e913bd3b5 a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Shadowchat"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "shadowchat"@en .

doacc:Df212fa7d-cb96-4a6e-bf27-f7da007c834c a doacc:CryptocurrencyFeature ;
    dc:description "Stealth messaging"@en ;
    rdfs:isDefinedBy <http://purl.org/net/bel-epa/doacc> ;
    skos:prefLabel "stealth messaging"@en .

DOACC is an altcoin catalogue expressed in RDF and the features described above can be combined with the DOACC altcoin metadata and is amenable to SPARQL querying so people can generate their own permutations of lists.

For each altcoin, DOACC attempts to record:

  • name - the name of the coin
  • ticker - the stock ticker
  • protocol - the network protocol
  • protectionscheme - how the chain is protected
  • incept - YYYY-MM of announcement
  • date_founded - the date that the coin was announced
  • block_time - the block time in seconds
  • powscheme - the hashing scheme
  • block_reward - the block reward
  • reward_modifier - the reward halving/modification scheme
  • premine - the amount of any premine
  • total_coins - the total number of coins
  • retarget_time - the block target time
  • website - the coin’s web site
  • source - the location of the source code
  • posscheme - the type of PoS scheme used
  • confirmations - the number of confirmations recommended
  • maturation - the maturation time of newly-minted blocks
  • distributionscheme - the scheme by which the coin was distributed

But the older data is often much more sparse.

I have an experimental version of the graph that cross-references each coinmarketcap.com-listed coin with the corresponding marketcap, volume, price etc in the coinmarketcap.com listings so I can also use those values as filters.


Cheers

Graham
Edit: truncated the dc:description string, for sanity
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February 01, 2016, 03:15:52 AM
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Which coin is working perfectly with Anon... reply me quickly


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February 01, 2016, 06:08:03 AM
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Which coin is working perfectly with Anon... reply me quickly

Bitcoin.

I'm currently working on a semi-automated characterisation of coin features. As “anon” is programmatically challenging and the characterisation is significant in the domain, a bit of hand-stitching is tolerable. Here's what I have thus far ...

name_symbol_as_bctlink, blockchain_state, incept_YYYY-M, “anon”_features.
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That is a very nice list and I (and everybody) are appreciating your work Graham, but did you ever considered to add another row reflecting the individual coin's value? Or lack of, valuelessness actually, all of them are worthless from value or marketcap. Some even got labelled "scamcoin" occasionally, just pump and dump bags remaining.

Doesn't the fact feel intrigueing that this "not anonymous" Bitcoin totally rules the scene? Always has been good enough for every possible kind of use case? Almost all coins listed above are not even accepted on distinctive tradesites?
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February 01, 2016, 12:13:32 PM
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For each altcoin, DOACC attempts to record:

  • premine - the amount of any premine

All crypto coins to date other than Bitcoin are 100% premined, because they have no users. Speculators mining the shit out of shitcoins with no users is effectively a premine against any future widespread adoption.

For that matter, Bitcoin was 95% premined also given by the time it had significant users it was being mined by ASICs mostly by the Chinese mining farms.

  • masturbation - the maturation time of newly-minted blocksthe P&D

ftfy

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February 01, 2016, 01:52:09 PM
Last edit: February 01, 2016, 09:18:04 PM by gjhiggins
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I'm currently working on a semi-automated characterisation of coin features.

That is a very nice list and I (and everybody) are appreciating your work Graham, but did you ever considered to add another row reflecting the individual coin's value? Or lack of, valuelessness actually, all of them are worthless from value or marketcap. Some even got labelled "scamcoin" occasionally, just pump and dump bags remaining.

Thanks for the kind words, it's good to know that the work is gaining some favourable views.

I'm personally gratified that thus far I've (mostly) successfully managed to keep my prejudices to myself while working on DOACC, (Minki’s web site is merely a set of HTML renderings of different views of the DOACC RDF graph).

The initial list of anon coins now has a rendering on Minkiz: https://minkiz.co/coin/anon

But no, I've never had any intention of adding a “value” relation - for two reasons that I find very compelling:

1. I don't have a good enough model to explain adequately some of the more challenging anomalies in the domain (read “a small herd of elephants rampaging around the middle of the room”). You've already identified one of them: adequately explaining Bitcoin's primacy. Others include the uniqueness of the Shibes, the implausibly steep curve of the BTC volume long tail, the persistence of unwarranted hope in hodlers and bagholders.
2. A purely idiosyncratic assessment is pretty much guaranteed to engender resentment. Unfortunately, given the chimera of a consensus definition (in common with “beauty”, “value” is in the eyes of the beholder), an idiosyncratic assessment is the only option. So, I focus on facts and supportable inference and let the results speak to the issues.

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Doesn't the fact feel intrigueing that this "not anonymous" Bitcoin totally rules the scene? Always has been good enough for every possible kind of use case? Almost all coins listed above are not even accepted on distinctive tradesites?

These are all good questions/points. As you observe, they're also persistent. This piques my curiosity so I'm rootling around to see if I can get some insights by applying techniques from cognitive science.

I've made some progress on the semi-automated list, at least for the top marketcap PoS coins: http://minkiz.co/coin/cmcap-pos, I intend to migrate the list to the COINZ section, once I've polished it up a bit and checked the results.

Cheers

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Edit: updated URL to point to new location
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February 01, 2016, 02:03:10 PM
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All crypto coins to date other than Bitcoin are 100% premined, because they have no users.

I view blatant hyperbole not as fact but as posturing. If you have a cogent argument to make, it's as well to make it coherent too.

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February 01, 2016, 04:11:21 PM
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Cloakcoin awaiting posa 3 ! This will be something real new as i understood from white paper.. Beta test was successful and code was audited ..
Maybe cloak have opportunity to surprise us all?
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February 01, 2016, 07:31:06 PM
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Cloakcoin awaiting posa 3 ! This will be something real new as i understood from white paper.. Beta test was successful and code was audited ..
Maybe cloak have opportunity to surprise us all?

I bet it will!
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February 01, 2016, 10:01:26 PM
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Cloakcoin awaiting posa 3 ! This will be something real new as i understood from white paper.. Beta test was successful and code was audited ..
Maybe cloak have opportunity to surprise us all?

I bet it will!

In 2014 there was a low of hope for PoSA 2 and CLOAK failed miserably to deliver on its promises.
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February 02, 2016, 04:36:24 AM
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Cloakcoin awaiting posa 3 ! This will be something real new as i understood from white paper.. Beta test was successful and code was audited ..
Maybe cloak have opportunity to surprise us all?
I bet it will!
In 2014 there was a low of hope for PoSA 2 and CLOAK failed miserably to deliver on its promises.

Is there an opportunity for a leveraged bet against CLOAK, anywhere? Just that would apply for each and every altcoin, so probably not.
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February 02, 2016, 09:02:48 AM
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Cloakcoin now is something different from that coin in 2014 year.
Now have real development and great support from  community.
Did you see their new forum?
http://forum.cloakcoin.com/
You can buy cloak via paypal.
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February 02, 2016, 09:18:48 PM
Last edit: February 03, 2016, 12:18:38 PM by disco987
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In 2014 there was a low of hope for PoSA 2 and CLOAK failed miserably to deliver on its promises.

  Yes that is true,but from the end of 2014 cloak has new team that works very well.
We have new whitepaper PoSA3 http://cloakcoin.com/downloads/posa3wp.pdf
and security audit of code http://www.cloakcoin.com/downloads/PoSA3_Audit_Report.pdf
Also we have successfully carried out of PoSA3 Beta Test #1, in wich we could not find the transaction to the sender
http://forum.cloakcoin.com/threads/posa3-beta-test-1.37/
  So after the realization of PoSA3 wallet which will be soon,with what cloak will is different from dash or monero like anonymous?
It is very possible is better than them. And easy to use from the people.Cloak will be undervauled or they are overvauled?
2016 will be an exciting year for cloak  and anonymity.

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February 03, 2016, 01:44:30 PM
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VERGE aka Dogecoindark.

Take note.

Download anonymously, trade anonymously, transact anonymously.

Dev has done a ton of work and is still working at it - everyday.


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February 21, 2016, 02:25:42 AM
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VERGE aka Dogecoindark.

Take note.

Download anonymously, trade anonymously, transact anonymously.

Dev has done a ton of work and is still working at it - everyday.




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February 29, 2016, 01:17:38 PM
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PoSA3 will do it!

Cloak is a real anon coin  Wink


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February 29, 2016, 04:33:14 PM
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PoSA3 will do it!

Cloak is a real anon coin  Wink
Can you tell me release date?
Now when SDC having code problems, and DASH going slowly down with constant attacks.
I hope we can see surprises in Anonymous section.
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