~PayPal-Trader~ is a scammer. Do NOT deal with him.

[chanlance]

Fees   0.0000001 BTC  this will take some time to be confirmed

[1714958214]

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[1714958214]

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[Undermood]

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Sender's scam attempt will fail.

[sardasa]

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Sender's scam attempt will fail.

Are you out of your mind? Why the hell would I create a thread if I had to scam him?
As soon as the txn is confirmed, I will send him his money.

[~PayPal-Trader~]

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

[sardasa]

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

[foxkyu]

You have to wait until it tx is confirmed. Nothing you can do about this.

Not like other payment method, bitcoin is irreversible.

Or you can create a new watch address on blockchain.info about your address.

So you know when you receive the bitcoin.

[~PayPal-Trader~]

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

There is no blame from my side , it is you who is screaming and blaming , Grow Up , I am waiting for txn to get confirm.
sagar...

[sardasa]

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

There is no blame from my side , it is you who is screaming and blaming , Grow Up , I am waiting for txn to get confirm.
sagar...

You were the who were pressurizing me yesterday to pay you after you sent me this txn link.
As soon as the txn is confirmed I'll pay you as per the BTC price at the time it gets confirmed or refund your BTC (whatever would suit both of us at that time)

Edit:

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If the highlighted line is not blame then what is it?

[~PayPal-Trader~]

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

There is no blame from my side , it is you who is screaming and blaming , Grow Up , I am waiting for txn to get confirm.
sagar...

You were the who were pressurizing me yesterday to pay you after you sent me this txn link.
As soon as the txn is confirmed I'll pay you as per the BTC price at the time it gets confirmed or refund your BTC (whatever would suit both of us at that time)

Okay , i am done with you , please refund my coins as soon as you get the confirmation and do add a fee 0f 0.0001 btc and deduce from the amount that i sent you.
thank you and please don't pm me .

[sardasa]

Sender trusted jr member with 0.11 or 0.27BTC with 10 satishi fees. Hopefully the transaction will get confirmed and Op could run away with the money, could buy a sr member account with that money. Sender's scam attempt will fail.

There is no trick from my side , i have been trading in paypal and this is fourth time i am trading in bitcoin.
I know now that sardasa will run away with bitcoins that i have sent him , but i will wait for the transaction to confirm .
I am regretting not to use escrow.
Meanwhile i know sardasa , he is on TBN.

If you know me from TBN, then you must also know that I am not going to run away with $50. I have had much bigger deals and never been accused of running away.
Its your mess & you should take responsibility of it instead of blaming me!

What could have escrow done in this case? If he had not received BTC in his wallet then he would not have let me send you money. No escrow would let buyer send money unless BTC txn gets at least 1 confirmation.

There is no blame from my side , it is you who is screaming and blaming , Grow Up , I am waiting for txn to get confirm.
sagar...

You were the who were pressurizing me yesterday to pay you after you sent me this txn link.
As soon as the txn is confirmed I'll pay you as per the BTC price at the time it gets confirmed or refund your BTC (whatever would suit both of us at that time)

Okay , i am done with you , please refund my coins as soon as you get the confirmation and do add a fee 0f 0.0001 btc and deduce from the amount that i sent you.
thank you and please don't pm me .

Leave your BTC address where you would like to get this refund. You'll get it as soon this txn is confirmed. I am deriving any pleasure from PMing you. Feel free to block my PMs.

[~PayPal-Trader~]

Okay this is refund address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
I don't feel like blaming you or blocking you , what i felt bad was that you called me scammer , and this i don't like , because i am as legit as you are.

[shorena]

Okay this is refund address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
I don't feel like blaming you or blocking you , what i felt bad was that you called me scammer , and this i don't like , because i am as legit as you are.

I recon I should stop rebroadcasting this TX now, right? It very likely will be forgotten by the network without it.

What wallet service/software are you using?

Edit: Just to clarify the fee you set is reckless, if you did not set it yourself, the wallet you use is badly designed. You may have acted in good faith, but you should not be surprised that someone thinks this is shady.

[Timelord2067]

~PayPal-Trader~ is this the guy?

yep, highly a scam attempt, the possible scammer is using a newbie account and posts in the currency section. Likely a scammer hunting for newbie bitcoiners.

He also only wants Skrill?

[Timelord2067]

Okay this is refund address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
I don't feel like blaming you or blocking you , what i felt bad was that you called me scammer , and this i don't like , because i am as legit as you are.

...and the only other time that wallet 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc is mentioned here at BCT is when it shows up in this message by someone else....

Sudah diupdate oleh OP screenshots conversation skypenya. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302139.0
Address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
Tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/988f373c4aa791f08afe42178567364664989970f9945f4f047f98610179b41e
Skype username: chemy

23 Desember 2015, ada scam accusation juga yang pelakunya memakai skype username chemy. Disini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1300716.0

Misal akun Kemben benar dihack, hackernya tidak mengganti password dan email. Berarti dihack setidaknya dari tanggal 24 Desember sampai 31 Desember. Lihat sent feedback akunnya Kemben,



Ada 3 feedback yang dikirim ke beberapa user pada saat dihack.

Edit: Sudah PM ghibly79, katanya tidak pernah ada PM dari Kemben, dan tidak ada transaksi Skrill-BTC yang besarnya 0.32 pada hari itu. Kemungkinan besar feedbacknya palsu.

~PayPal-Trader~ is an Alt of ? ? ?

[shorena]

Okay this is refund address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
I don't feel like blaming you or blocking you , what i felt bad was that you called me scammer , and this i don't like , because i am as legit as you are.

...and the only other time that wallet 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc is mentioned here at BCT is when it shows up in this message by someone else....

Sudah diupdate oleh OP screenshots conversation skypenya. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302139.0
Address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
Tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/988f373c4aa791f08afe42178567364664989970f9945f4f047f98610179b41e
Skype username: chemy

23 Desember 2015, ada scam accusation juga yang pelakunya memakai skype username chemy. Disini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1300716.0

Misal akun Kemben benar dihack, hackernya tidak mengganti password dan email. Berarti dihack setidaknya dari tanggal 24 Desember sampai 31 Desember. Lihat sent feedback akunnya Kemben,



Ada 3 feedback yang dikirim ke beberapa user pada saat dihack.

Edit: Sudah PM ghibly79, katanya tidak pernah ada PM dari Kemben, dan tidak ada transaksi Skrill-BTC yang besarnya 0.32 pada hari itu. Kemungkinan besar feedbacknya palsu.

~PayPal-Trader~ is an Alt of ? ? ?

So sardasa can partiall refund the btc to Pasaris?

[sardasa]

Okay this is refund address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
I don't feel like blaming you or blocking you , what i felt bad was that you called me scammer , and this i don't like , because i am as legit as you are.

I recon I should stop rebroadcasting this TX now, right? It very likely will be forgotten by the network without it.

What wallet service/software are you using?

Edit: Just to clarify the fee you set is reckless, if you did not set it yourself, the wallet you use is badly designed. You may have acted in good faith, but you should not be surprised that someone thinks this is shady.

No, please do not stop. Rebroadcast it and hopefully it will confirm soon and I'll refund him the BTC and get over with this.

~PayPal-Trader~ is this the guy?

yep, highly a scam attempt, the possible scammer is using a newbie account and posts in the currency section. Likely a scammer hunting for newbie bitcoiners.

He also only wants Skrill?

Yes.

Okay this is refund address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
I don't feel like blaming you or blocking you , what i felt bad was that you called me scammer , and this i don't like , because i am as legit as you are.

...and the only other time that wallet 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc is mentioned here at BCT is when it shows up in this message by someone else....

Sudah diupdate oleh OP screenshots conversation skypenya. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302139.0
Address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
Tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/988f373c4aa791f08afe42178567364664989970f9945f4f047f98610179b41e
Skype username: chemy

23 Desember 2015, ada scam accusation juga yang pelakunya memakai skype username chemy. Disini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1300716.0

Misal akun Kemben benar dihack, hackernya tidak mengganti password dan email. Berarti dihack setidaknya dari tanggal 24 Desember sampai 31 Desember. Lihat sent feedback akunnya Kemben,



Ada 3 feedback yang dikirim ke beberapa user pada saat dihack.

Edit: Sudah PM ghibly79, katanya tidak pernah ada PM dari Kemben, dan tidak ada transaksi Skrill-BTC yang besarnya 0.32 pada hari itu. Kemungkinan besar feedbacknya palsu.

~PayPal-Trader~ is an Alt of ? ? ?

That's an interesting find. We should wait for ~PayPal-Trader~ to reply on this.

Okay this is refund address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
I don't feel like blaming you or blocking you , what i felt bad was that you called me scammer , and this i don't like , because i am as legit as you are.

...and the only other time that wallet 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc is mentioned here at BCT is when it shows up in this message by someone else....

Sudah diupdate oleh OP screenshots conversation skypenya. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302139.0
Address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
Tx: https://blockchain.info/tx/988f373c4aa791f08afe42178567364664989970f9945f4f047f98610179b41e
Skype username: chemy

23 Desember 2015, ada scam accusation juga yang pelakunya memakai skype username chemy. Disini https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1300716.0

Misal akun Kemben benar dihack, hackernya tidak mengganti password dan email. Berarti dihack setidaknya dari tanggal 24 Desember sampai 31 Desember. Lihat sent feedback akunnya Kemben,



Ada 3 feedback yang dikirim ke beberapa user pada saat dihack.

Edit: Sudah PM ghibly79, katanya tidak pernah ada PM dari Kemben, dan tidak ada transaksi Skrill-BTC yang besarnya 0.32 pada hari itu. Kemungkinan besar feedbacknya palsu.

~PayPal-Trader~ is an Alt of ? ? ?

So sardasa can partiall refund the btc to Pasaris?

You're saying Alt of ~PayPal-Trader~ scammed some one called Pasaris and once this BTC gets confirmed, I should refund that much amount to Pasaris and rest to ~PayPal-Trader~ ?

[Timelord2067]

OK, it looks like they were talking about Skype user chemy who's name lights up BCT talk too...

...but I cant tie that wallet 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc to him (chemy) just yet.

OTOH

chemy https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=651944

has used the wallet 14PEM2XATEfefg9J4HoNqKuLQc9bLpccGY

rank: Jr.Member
Post: 61
BTC Address: 14PEM2XATEfefg9J4HoNqKuLQc9bLpccGY

http://www.bctalkaccountpricer.info/?token=fjphtuu0

14PEM2XATEfefg9J4HoNqKuLQc9bLpccGY First posted on: January 14, 2016, 12:35:32 PM

and Quickseller states that as an Alts of Engg.Chaks https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275297.0

benq1 has 14PEM2XATEfefg9J4HoNqKuLQc9bLpccGY in his profile (archive).

So Scammer Family Tree for wallet 14PEM2XATEfefg9J4HoNqKuLQc9bLpccGY Engg.Chaks -> benq1 -> chemy
 
thank indirectly to Quickseller...

[shorena]

-snip-
You're saying Alt of ~PayPal-Trader~ scammed some one called Pasaris and once this BTC gets confirmed, I should refund that much amount to Pasaris and rest to ~PayPal-Trader~ ?

Read this, compare the addresses -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302139.msg13426408#msg13426408

Not that is ok in your book, its up to you once the TX confirms.

[sardasa]

-snip-
You're saying Alt of ~PayPal-Trader~ scammed some one called Pasaris and once this BTC gets confirmed, I should refund that much amount to Pasaris and rest to ~PayPal-Trader~ ?

Read this, compare the addresses -> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1302139.msg13426408#msg13426408

Not that is ok in your book, its up to you once the TX confirms.

Okay this is refund address: 1CwV6JERyAZpsMAhVqDSpoqYt3eAqs7xFc
I don't feel like blaming you or blocking you , what i felt bad was that you called me scammer , and this i don't like , because i am as legit as you are.

@~PayPal-Trader~ : Would you please say something against this scam accusation or you admit scamming him & were trying to scam me too ?

[zazarb]

Fees   0.0000001 BTC  this will take some time to be confirmed

99.9% that never with 0.00000374 BTC fee I have wait week or two, after several time  rebroadcasting.
So I suggesting stop rebroadcasting in this case.